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12-30-2012 07:53 PM
MABJ Gotcha!

Alright. Best of luck.

I try to keep my eye out for people who don't quite understand cycles, as they're really important.


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12-30-2012 07:42 PM
JEden8
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Originally Posted by MABJ View Post
So you have three tanks? One of which is cycled?

Neither of these are fit for anything living, minus snails.



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I think you are confused and it may be how I worded things. The tanks that I am discussing are a 27 gallon tank that has been setup for well over a year now and a 10 gallon that I just setup and is currently cycling. The shrimp are housed in the 27 gallon tank at the moment. Nothing is in the 10 gallon tank until it fully cycles.
12-30-2012 07:40 PM
JEden8
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Originally Posted by Rob in Puyallup View Post
Cringing at 0.25 ammonia...

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It's not fully at .25 but it's not at 0. I'm doing a water change this afternoon on this tank which will reduce the ammonia in the tank.

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Originally Posted by MABJ View Post
Cringing at shrimp in uncycled tanks..

I'd move your shrimp to Tupperware bowls with moss and give them 100% water changes every day until you get your cycle straightened out.

If you don't your shrimp will die. Plain and simple.


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There are no shrimp in the uncycled tank. The tank is cycling to house shrimp in the future.
12-30-2012 07:19 PM
MABJ
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Originally Posted by JEden8 View Post
I've only been seeing them closer to night when the lights go out/feeding time. Sometimes they are out still in the morning before the lights come on as well. Normally I only see 2 of them out at night but last night I saw 4 of the 5 remaining shrimps. They go over to where the food is and start scavenging with the cherry shrimp. Before I threw the food in the tank they were just foraging around by themselves. I tested the water parameters again this morning and this is where I'm at:

pH: 7.4
Ammonia: .25 ppm
Nitrate: 5 ppm
Nitrite: 0 ppm
KH: 4-5
GH: 10

I've got a 10 gallon tank setup that is currently cycling to potentially house them but if they are doing well in that tank then I'll end up setting it up for some other shrimp. Here are the parameters before I used your calculator for adding baking soda:

pH: 7.4
Ammonia: .25 ppm
Nitrate: 0 ppm
Nitrite: 0 ppm
KH: 3
GH: 9
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So you have three tanks? One of which is cycled?

Neither of these are fit for anything living, minus snails.



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12-30-2012 06:47 PM
JEden8
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Originally Posted by MABJ View Post
Cringing at shrimp in uncycled tanks..

I'd move your shrimp to Tupperware bowls with moss and give them 100% water changes every day until you get your cycle straightened out.

If you don't your shrimp will die. Plain and simple.


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My shrimp aren't in an uncycled tank right now. The tank is cycling as we speak that they will be moved into.
12-30-2012 06:11 PM
MABJ Cringing at shrimp in uncycled tanks..

I'd move your shrimp to Tupperware bowls with moss and give them 100% water changes every day until you get your cycle straightened out.

If you don't your shrimp will die. Plain and simple.


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12-30-2012 03:43 PM
Rob in Puyallup Cringing at 0.25 ammonia...

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12-30-2012 02:35 PM
Soothing Shrimp Pssssssst: Blue velvets have a mutation that causes the red to fade. Blue rilis have been bred to eliminate the red. They look similar, but there is a difference.
12-30-2012 01:37 PM
pinoyghost2 Rilis for the ones with the red/yellow parts, the all blue ones are low grade blue rilis, sorry they won't color up any better unless you cross them with higher grade blue rilis/blue velvets...same shrimp just different names.

Red ones are Sulawesi Goldflake and will need High PH 8-8.2 and temp of 80+F to stay alive. They also require extremely clean water and substrate should be crushed coral. They are biofilm eaters and don't usually eat common shrimp food, so you need to culture algae on rocks and old sponge filters are good for biofilm.

I have raised both this type of Sulawesi and the Cardinals as well as Blue Leg Posos and can tell you these will not survive long without the above parameters. They are prone to bacterial infections, so keep them isolated in their own tank. They need very specific water parameters for them to breed. They won't breed unless the conditions are suitable for them. If you got one berried it was probably hit before you brought it home.

Good luck with both.
12-29-2012 06:55 PM
JEden8
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Originally Posted by msjinkzd View Post
I wouldn't rock the boat if they are doing well.

When not doing well, they get very inactive and stop picking at plants/food
I've only been seeing them closer to night when the lights go out/feeding time. Sometimes they are out still in the morning before the lights come on as well. Normally I only see 2 of them out at night but last night I saw 4 of the 5 remaining shrimps. They go over to where the food is and start scavenging with the cherry shrimp. Before I threw the food in the tank they were just foraging around by themselves. I tested the water parameters again this morning and this is where I'm at:

pH: 7.4
Ammonia: .25 ppm
Nitrate: 5 ppm
Nitrite: 0 ppm
KH: 4-5
GH: 10

I've got a 10 gallon tank setup that is currently cycling to potentially house them but if they are doing well in that tank then I'll end up setting it up for some other shrimp. Here are the parameters before I used your calculator for adding baking soda:

pH: 7.4
Ammonia: .25 ppm
Nitrate: 0 ppm
Nitrite: 0 ppm
KH: 3
GH: 9

We shall see how everything goes with them in the 27 gallon with the cherry shrimp. If they start appearing to become sickly then I'll end up moving them over to that tank to attempt to keep them alive. Thanks again for all of your help!

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Originally Posted by Soothing Shrimp View Post
yepper. If you have some that have adapted to different conditions than what other people have, you may "tip the ship" by messin' around too much with parameters.

On the other hand, sometimes to get them to breed you need to try some different things. So really, it's half a dozen of one, half a dozen of another. (Jeesh- how many cliches can I put in this post!?)
HAHA I contacted my LFS to have him get the water parameters and water change frequency that his breeder has successfully breed these shrimp so that I can go off of what they are doing since it has worked for these shrimp.
12-29-2012 03:58 PM
Soothing Shrimp yepper. If you have some that have adapted to different conditions than what other people have, you may "tip the ship" by messin' around too much with parameters.

On the other hand, sometimes to get them to breed you need to try some different things. So really, it's half a dozen of one, half a dozen of another. (Jeesh- how many cliches can I put in this post!?)
12-29-2012 02:33 PM
msjinkzd I wouldn't rock the boat if they are doing well.

When not doing well, they get very inactive and stop picking at plants/food
12-29-2012 12:26 AM
JEden8
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Originally Posted by msjinkzd View Post
errm, i don't have any recollection at all- but it was a couple months between berries for sure
Darn...I'm getting excited for them to breed! haha

They seem to be liking it in the tank with the cherry shrimp. Would you pull them out to their own tank or leave them with the cherries since they seem to be doing well?
12-28-2012 01:28 PM
msjinkzd errm, i don't have any recollection at all- but it was a couple months between berries for sure
12-28-2012 04:03 AM
JEden8
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Originally Posted by msjinkzd View Post
They were slow breeders for me, and had smaller broods- about 15-20 young as opposed to 30+ for neos. I dont' know that my params were spot on, and I was workin with wild shrimp.
How often did they berry?
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