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01-09-2013 02:29 PM
dhgyello04 Ok… the ADA AS has been in the tank for 3 days and I am going to do my first 100% WC tonight after work. Once it is full I am going to plant the hell out of it. Mostly mosses, but going to keep the Dwarf Sag.

The remaining 7 SSS CBS are doing fine in the bucket. The temp is rising just a bit though. I will put the fan on it to.
01-02-2013 04:26 PM
dhgyello04 I know. Right... at this point I am ready to try anything
01-02-2013 03:54 PM
Rob in Puyallup Can it really be that easy?

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Originally Posted by speedie408 View Post
I guarantee you if you put them in a 5g tank (bare bottom) and use Nutrafin African Cichlid Conditioner (!50-200 TDS) mixed with 100% RO water, your shrimp will stop dying. Do this and redo their tank. Get ADA AS and call it a day. Keep it simple, not too many plants, mainly moss and you'll be gravy.
01-02-2013 02:33 PM
dhgyello04 My new substrate gets here tomorrow
12-23-2012 11:17 PM
Newman Yes, do Not touch the substrate when shrimp are in there. no need to vacuum it. just pass the vac over it gently if you need to do a water change. vacs can always suck up shrimp so be very careful when doing water changes.
12-23-2012 05:44 AM
speedie408
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Originally Posted by dhgyello04 View Post
If I go with the underground filter (AZOO Pipes) do I hook it up to my canister or use a power head? If it is a power head which one is a good flow? [/SIZE][/FONT]
Canister hookup is a must in when using UGFs. You want the bio filtration for the shcrimpz.

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Most folks generally recommend against disturbing the substrate at all in shrimp tanks.
The only time I even touch the substrate is if I'm redoing the tank.
12-23-2012 05:26 AM
ravensgate Most folks generally recommend against disturbing the substrate at all in shrimp tanks.
12-23-2012 04:16 AM
dhgyello04 Ok…. I just purchased my ADA AS substrate. I can’t wait until it comes in. I am supper excited.

I only have one more question at this time. Does anyone siphon there substrate in a shrimp tank? It just sounds dangerous with all the babies running around those little crevices of the substrate. If you do please go into detail on how you avoid sucking up the babies when doing your water change.
12-21-2012 11:42 PM
Loachutus
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If I go with the underground filter (AZOO Pipes) do I hook it up to my canister or use a power head?
You can use a HOB instead of the power head.
12-21-2012 10:50 PM
Newman be aware that UGF will shorten the life of your active substrate buffering. otherwise its a good choice. it may even make your substrate safer?
12-21-2012 10:47 PM
dhgyello04
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Originally Posted by speedie408 View Post
Don,

What's up bro! I started using that stuff after my Taiwan breeder told me that's what he uses on all his tanks exclusively. That alone means A LOT! Ever since, I've been using it for all my tanks and they're doing awesome. I've been letting people know about it and many folks have had positive results with it as well. Only cost $16 on Amazon for a 500ml bottle so it's hella cheap!

Sucks you lost that beautiful Black Impact momma. You should've redid that tank a long time ago bro... live n learn though. We all do.

You're RO ph seems normal. What's your RO TDS?

Once you start using ADA AS accompanied by a UGF and a handful of leaf litter (I have a set of AZOO pipes if you want them), your PH will drop to about 6 - 6.5 which is perfect for CBS/CRS. Keep the TDS around 150-200 using NACC mixed with your pure RO and do 20% WC every other week. That's it! Later as the tank gets more mature, you just top off regularly with RO (no remineralizer), and do less and less water changes. Maybe once a month if you feel like it. Simple as that.


Thanks for not calling me a moron Speedie…. Lol.
If I go with the underground filter (AZOO Pipes) do I hook it up to my canister or use a power head? If it is a power head which one is a good flow?
12-21-2012 03:21 PM
speedie408
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Originally Posted by dhgyello04 View Post
Hey Speedie,
It’s nice to hear from you. How are you doing? It sickens me to say that I lost the female Black Impact…. I feel like an idiot.

Is the Nutrafin African Cichlid Conditioner the new way of going about adding minerals to a shrimp tank? I am always behind the trends lol. I just bought a bottle of the Mosura Mineral Plus Ultra. I thought that was a really good one for bee shrimp. Speedie, I still have an issue with my RO/DI coming out at 7 ph. It comes out at 8.2 from the tap. I will need to still put some peat in the HOB for the remaining shrimp.

Does anyone know just about how much ADA AS to get? I need to make the order today.

Thanks everyone for your help
Don
Don,

What's up bro! I started using that stuff after my Taiwan breeder told me that's what he uses on all his tanks exclusively. That alone means A LOT! Ever since, I've been using it for all my tanks and they're doing awesome. I've been letting people know about it and many folks have had positive results with it as well. Only cost $16 on Amazon for a 500ml bottle so it's hella cheap!

Sucks you lost that beautiful Black Impact momma. You should've redid that tank a long time ago bro... live n learn though. We all do.

You're RO ph seems normal. What's your RO TDS?

Once you start using ADA AS accompanied by a UGF and a handful of leaf litter (I have a set of AZOO pipes if you want them), your PH will drop to about 6 - 6.5 which is perfect for CBS/CRS. Keep the TDS around 150-200 using NACC mixed with your pure RO and do 20% WC every other week. That's it! Later as the tank gets more mature, you just top off regularly with RO (no remineralizer), and do less and less water changes. Maybe once a month if you feel like it. Simple as that.
12-21-2012 02:41 PM
dhgyello04
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Originally Posted by speedie408 View Post
I guarantee you if you put them in a 5g tank (bare bottom) and use Nutrafin African Cichlid Conditioner (!50-200 TDS) mixed with 100% RO water, your shrimp will stop dying. Do this and redo their tank. Get ADA AS and call it a day. Keep it simple, not too many plants, mainly moss and you'll be gravy.

Hey Speedie,
It’s nice to hear from you. How are you doing? It sickens me to say that I lost the female Black Impact…. I feel like an idiot.

Is the Nutrafin African Cichlid Conditioner the new way of going about adding minerals to a shrimp tank? I am always behind the trends lol. I just bought a bottle of the Mosura Mineral Plus Ultra. I thought that was a really good one for bee shrimp. Speedie, I still have an issue with my RO/DI coming out at 7 ph. It comes out at 8.2 from the tap. I will need to still put some peat in the HOB for the remaining shrimp.

Does anyone know just about how much ADA AS to get? I need to make the order today.

Thanks everyone for your help
Don
12-21-2012 01:36 PM
Aquasapien69
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Originally Posted by GeToChKn View Post
I would suggest looking for a different remineralizer. Either the gH+ bee shrimp stuff or the Nutrafin chilid stuff people are having good success with both. The Mosura is expensive and it add's up over time.

Yes, you're right, people keep them in all different params and they are all over the map. Some people keep shrimp in water that others can't and there are obviously lots of small factors that we can't measure with a test kit or figure out and part of it, is just figuring out what works for your shrimp once you have them.

For a "range" though of what people keep them in

TDS: 100-500 I've seen although 100-150 seems to be the most common
pH: 5 to 7.5 I've seen although most go for 5-6.5ish
gH: 2-6 seems to be ideal regardless of the above 2.
kH: 0-1 seems to be the suggestion although I've never playing or tested a difference in a higher kH.
temp: 65-75 seems to be ideal of crystals. a bit cooler, they don't grow as fast, but they seem to live longer. Warmer temps gets them growing faster, but also more prone to bacteria infections.


If you ask 1,000 people on this site to fill out those 5 params that keep crystals, you will get 1,000 different answers, some of them varying greatly yet they may all have nice tanks full of shrimp.


Shrimp will adapt, as long as things are kept stable. That seems to be the biggest key. They will adapt to a lot of different water as long it doesn't change.

In nature, even though they are find in streams and ponds, that stream maybe 20,000 gallons in size and it takes a lot more outside influence to change the params in a large volume of water. Part of the reason just because it gets to below freezing outside, all the lakes don't freeze instantly like the sidewalks do. The large lake has lots of ambient heat and it takes a lot more than a few cold days to suck that heat out.

Read lots of posts and sites and things but take it all with a grain of salt. Try to set up and ideal tank and then adjust as needed when you get some shrimp. You will loose some, we all do, it's part of the process.
Very nice post! Well done!

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12-21-2012 05:16 AM
Green_Flash
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Originally Posted by GeToChKn View Post
I would look at the other ADA soils instead of Amazonia as they don't leech ammonia.
they don't?
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