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05-12-2015 01:10 PM
Hilde
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Originally Posted by Algae. View Post
I just bought one of these of craigslist for 15 bucks except the co2 bottle expired a month ago with a full tank of co2 in it, still a damn sick deal though.

Is it recommended to turn this thing off manually at night?
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Originally Posted by Jaggedfury View Post
I leave it on 24/7. Needle valve is adjusted to 2bps. Been running like this for almost close to a year, no problems with tank or algae.

If I wanted to, I can always turn it off at night and turn it back on in the morning when my lights switches on. It's fairly easy to adjust, you'll be surprised.
Jaggedfury leaves his on 24/7
05-12-2015 07:58 AM
Algae. I just bought one of these of craigslist for 15 bucks except the co2 bottle expired a month ago with a full tank of co2 in it, still a damn sick deal though.

Is it recommended to turn this thing off manually at night?
05-10-2015 06:12 PM
haril
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Originally Posted by Hilde View Post
Has anyone had the pressure on the output go over 1000? If it does what do you do?
I don't think it's possible. The store where you will fill up your cylinder will stop filling when the pressure is just under 1000 PSI or so max and there is no way of it increasing beyond this.
05-10-2015 02:22 AM
Hilde Has anyone had the pressure on the output go over 1000? If it does what do you do?
05-09-2015 12:30 PM
booneylander Just thought I'd chime in with my new super-low-budget paintball CO2 and review the bits I bought.

20oz Paintball Tank that I had laying around
Single-port ASA valve from eBay (pb-fly) - 10$
Ceramic Diffuser / bubble counter eBay (co2-art) - 15$
CO2 Hose eBay (co2-art) - 5$
1/8 NPT Needle Valve eBay (co2-art) - 15$

When I initially set everything up, the diffuser seemed to be pushing through a lot of huge bubbles and I was a bit underwhelmed but I had read they take a while to settle in sometimes so I left it overnight and now it seems to be working quite well.

The ASA valve was either not quite built right - or something is wrong/different with my CO2 tank, because I don't really have any ability to shut off the ASA valve. It's kind of just on all the time regardless of whether I pull the cap clean off the unit or jam it right down. No leaks or anything, I just wonder if my tank has more threads than it should or if the ASA valve was not assembled properly or something, in any case I'll fiddle with it all whenever it comes time for me to swap out the bottle.

The needle valve from CO2-ART is pretty tough to manage, it goes from off to a raging torrent of CO2 in about 5 degrees of knob rotation. Now keeping in mind I don't have a regulator, I guess it is to be expected, but I thgouht it might be a bit better than that. Oh well no big deal I'm used to it now I just have to fiddle with it a bit every time I turn it on in the morning.

Which brings me to my next point, my goal was to use the ASA valve to on/off every morning/night and leave the needle valve static, but since it doesn't seem to be working I have to use the needle valve to shut off every night. Not such a big deal though I suppose as I would have to be modulating the needle valve regularly anyway as the tank pressure drops, again since I'm not running a regulator.

All in all - for less than 50$ I have CO2 that's effective. So... yay!
05-07-2015 03:34 PM
Hilde
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Originally Posted by Wald-o View Post
Passing by to thank Jaggedfury and show my Co2 tank setup. I just followed his instructions.

-20 oz. Co2 tank (Amazon 21$)
-ASA Valve (Ebay 15$)
-Swagelok and (Ebay ~20$)
-Gas Tube Parts (Local Plumbing Store ~10$)
-Connectors and tubing ( Home Depot 2$, 2$, 5$)
-Teflon (had some laying around)
Are you still using this? Any changes to it?
05-07-2015 03:21 PM
Hilde
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Originally Posted by newbieplanter View Post
Saweeeeet set up man looks great. Do u have the item number for the needle valve?

SS-OVM2-A looks a little better although tha Cv is a little high.
What does Cv mean?
05-06-2015 11:50 PM
haril
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Originally Posted by boredom.is.me View Post
I have experience with both. I'll take a ladder any day of the week. The only time a ceramic will be better is if you have it near a power head, but ten you just end up with micro bubbles everywhere instead of actual diffusion.

Either way, the ladder would only be temporary.
I started off with a ladder and never got enough diffusion and after I switched to a ceramic diffuser it made a huge difference with the amount of dissolved CO2 in the water. I am saying this after comparing with KH/ph measurements and there was obviously crazy pearling after I started using the ceramic diffuser.

I place the diffuser on the opposite side of the power head and not under it. This keeps forcing most of the micro bubbles tumbling down again and again till they are dissolved completely instead of blowing it around the tank. just my 2 cents. But I think an inline atomizer diffuser will work best. I may even try this one day -
05-04-2015 04:50 PM
Hilde
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Originally Posted by Jaggedfury View Post
Paintball Co2 ASA On/Off Valve 2 Threads $10 - $60 depending on brand.
Paintball Co2 Gauge - $5 - $10 depending on brand.
I have found that it is best to buy an ASA valve with a gauge, aprox $10 on fleebay
05-03-2015 07:42 PM
boredom.is.me I have experience with both. I'll take a ladder any day of the week. The only time a ceramic will be better is if you have it near a power head, but ten you just end up with micro bubbles everywhere instead of actual diffusion.

Either way, the ladder would only be temporary.
05-03-2015 07:26 PM
Hilde
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Originally Posted by boredom.is.me View Post
I had an Ista Max Mix in line. That's why there is the joiner in the line. I either couldn't get it to run smoothly enough or the Sunsun 402B is just crap, so there was too much restriction. I'll install a CO2 ladder in the tank as a temporary option.
In the DIY Co2 Citric Acid thread someone mentioned that the ladder didn't work as well as the ceramic diffuser.
05-03-2015 07:20 PM
boredom.is.me
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Originally Posted by Hilde View Post
What are you using for the reactor? I see you are using only 1 needle valve. Many here have stated that they are having problems getting Co2 to be constant with just 1 needle valve. Are you running Co2 tube into your canister filter? I had read that Co2 can damage the seals in the filter. What are you using to diffuse it into the water?
I had an Ista Max Mix in line. That's why there is the joiner in the line. I either couldn't get it to run smoothly enough or the Sunsun 402B is just crap, so there was too much restriction. I'll install a CO2 ladder in the tank as a temporary option.

As for the needle valve, I haven't experienced much if any inconsistency so far, but I only made a three day test run on my 20 gallon tank.
05-03-2015 06:08 PM
Hilde
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Originally Posted by Jaggedfury View Post
he size on the paintball on and off valve for the needle vavle and gauge is actually 1/8'' threaded.
I found my paintball on and off valve by swag mine to be actually 3/16in.
05-03-2015 05:39 PM
Hilde
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Originally Posted by Jaggedfury View Post
I did look for a good while why piecing this together. This is probably the only working needle valve you can get that will allow you to hook up a co2 hose to it.
What is the watt # for the needle valve, which is from HD?

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Originally Posted by Jaggedfury View Post
Part number.. on Homedepot link below..Lowes carry the same product, not sure if it's the same part number.

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053
This link does longer go to the needle valve.

Never mind I found the answers reading this thread.
05-03-2015 05:09 PM
Hilde
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Originally Posted by oldpunk78 View Post
It's 1/4npt, not 1/4". The 1/8npt is a little bigger than a 1/4". Tube fittings are actually the size it is. Npt is different.
Ok! So I closed my complaint on fleebay concerning the 1/4 NPT valve.

So what NPT will be 3/16 (.187) or 1/4in (.25)? I can't find the answer googling.
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