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09-26-2013 08:59 AM
frenchie1001 i have 2 beams works on my tank, i feel pretty much the same about it as you! they are super cheap though hahah
09-26-2013 02:03 AM
talontsiawd Quick update. The LED's are doing there job, not much more. I am trying to mess with this point and shoot that is like 4 years old, have not really figured out good settings. I wish my light was this color, it's very blue in reality. Anyway, update.



09-13-2013 08:23 PM
talontsiawd So I bought this for another light but wanted to mess with it on a tank with not so much light and tried it on this tank:
Amazon.com: Sylvania 72344 Mosaic Flexible Light Kit: Home Improvement Amazon.com: Sylvania 72344 Mosaic Flexible Light Kit: Home Improvement

It's actually pretty fun to mess with though most colors are way off of what I would like on this tank.

I was surprised at a few things.

First surprise. On the all white setting, it the Sylvania Mosaic setup looks a lot more blue than the BeamsWork fixture. However, it's color rendering of red is incredibly better.

My second surprise is even though the BeamsWork fixture in all my research leads me to believe it is only good for viewing, not for plants, my plants are doing as good or better than they were. Though colors do not appear vibrant using this light, experimenting between the BeamsWork, my old CFL setup, and this new Sylvania Mosaic, reds are deeper than they were. No plant seems to have suffered. I know it's a short tank but I really thought this fixture would be no good. I guess it was a pretty good bang for the buck after all.

Don't get me wrong, I am still on the fence with it and likely wouldn't buy this version again but with some neutral white LED's, it probably would be a great little nano fixture. I know they are getting more into the planted realm and would have waited if I didn't impulse buy this. I know it's a $40 fixture but for me it is having some serious pro's and con's so it's hard for me to decide.

I am still playing around with the Sylvania Mosaic on this tank. I would have thought adding a bit of red would help but it kind of looks odd. Even with one strip on the low setting, it's just too red. White looks just a bit brighter. I have a ton of the LED strips but one controller so I can't easily do yellow (not that it looks great either). If I find a cool setting, I will try to hardware a strip in one color or try to use extra as a moon light.
09-10-2013 06:43 AM
talontsiawd So I still don't love the new light but it seems better. I don't think LED's "burn in" and change to there color over time but I am less hateful of the colors. I know hate is a strong word but I hated this when I got it, now I am some what OK. The reds still don't look good but better to my eye, not sure if it actually looks better or I just got used to it. Can't gauge growth after 1 day, especially post trim so I will give my review then. I know enough about this tank to know if the light will work out or not.
09-09-2013 10:20 AM
talontsiawd Minor trim, will likely trim down everything after wedding (1 week):

09-09-2013 09:42 AM
talontsiawd
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Originally Posted by OVT View Post
The tank is actually looking good and the colors are not that shabby. Are you saying it looks more washed out in person?

I'm working nights on my tanks too, trying to get yours ready.

v3
Colors are worse in person. In the pics, it looks like an 8,000-9,000k bulb (guessing here). In reality, it looks much more like a 10,000+k bulb, almost a 50/50 bulb. It also appears brighter in the pics than it is as well. Many complain when they move to LED that their tanks photograph dimmer, mine "camera" (iPhone) does not. I will give it at least a week and see what happens. It is much sleeker than my DIY fixture, which is nice, but it is bulky for what seems to be a low light LED fixture.

I really shouldn't complain as it was a cheap light, I didn't do my research, and I get zero spotlight effect. It's not super pleasant to view from the top but that is the only downside that I kind of knew about, given my lack of other research.

I also really shouldn't complain, even more so, as my friend you will meet soon, put it on his card. He is a reef guy but took me out for a mini bachelor party, we stopped at two aquarium shops instead of strip clubs haha.


Going with that, at least it gave me the budget to get my AS and an inline heater. The AS is for the new one, not sure I will even do a heater in it but I can use an in tank as I am not doing natural at the moment. That may all change, I can't decide if I want to swap out the 20L for the new or set up a tank in the studio. I like white clouds so I can get most of it done with what I have. Just need CO2 rig, thinking paintball to start, not sure.

I can type forever, haha, insomnia and Amy is out of town for the weekend.
09-09-2013 09:03 AM
OVT The tank is actually looking good and the colors are not that shabby. Are you saying it looks more washed out in person?

I'm working nights on my tanks too, trying to get yours ready.

v3
09-09-2013 08:39 AM
talontsiawd Quick update....Everything is filling in well, still very little algae issues. I clean the front glass about once every month or two, really not getting much of any algae which is great since I don't really use ferts. You can see growth is pretty good as well. Unfortunately, the Limnophila aromatica is not coloring up at all, I know it's low tech but I was hoping for some color.

My only real change is the new light. It actually photographs well and looks attractive in pictures but is far too blue, even with the 3 blue LED's covered up. I didn't do my research on this light, saw it cheap when I was out in SF and decided to go for it. All colors, including green, look dull, reds look the worst. It also appears dimmer than the last light and in my bit of research, it may be truly low light. My tank has always been low tech but that doesn't mean it's low light. However, I am impressed by the coverage of the light, especially right on top of the tank. I will give it a bit of time before I make my final judgement but will likely be replaced regardless. It may become an intermediate step between regular lights and moon lights on a higher tank unless I start to like the color. None of my fish are all that iridescent so it doesn't even help there (Betta has none). No shimmer either since tank is low flow.

Anyway, here are some pics. I will likely do a late night trim.





08-22-2013 08:14 PM
talontsiawd Small upadate. First and foremost, I obviously killed of my Riccia and just redid that today. I had some hair algae and treated with H202, knowing that the Riccia would suffer. Didn't have enough to redo for awhile. Also, just trimmed, didn't clean the glass etc. Still need to figure out a plan for the right side, I may or may not get a smaller piece of driftwood. Tank hasn't got much love of lately but still keeps on chugging on it's own.

08-13-2013 11:09 PM
octanejunkie
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Originally Posted by talontsiawd View Post
I also want to add, don't be afraid to add plants that people say need high light. I have surprised myself more than a few times with certain plants over the years that actually did quite well without CO2 or high light. Some will work, some won't so don't go buy some super rare, high priced stems but if you see something and like it, give it a try.
Thanks for the listing, and the encouragement!
07-24-2013 07:21 PM
talontsiawd I also want to add, don't be afraid to add plants that people say need high light. I have surprised myself more than a few times with certain plants over the years that actually did quite well without CO2 or high light. Some will work, some won't so don't go buy some super rare, high priced stems but if you see something and like it, give it a try.
07-24-2013 07:08 PM
talontsiawd
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Originally Posted by octanejunkie View Post

Would you mind listing what plants you had/have in your tank for me? I am not totally familiar with all species yet and want to emulate tanks I like that will be successful for a beginner like me. I am especially interested in the foreground grasses and /or mosses.
I appoligize I don't have good editing software to make a this easier but I will do my best to give you an idea:


In the background, left to right:
Rotala Colorata
Rotala sp. 'Bangladesh'
Rotala macrandra-Hard to see (Not recommended)
Not sure what the grass looking plant is
rotala macrandra v. 'narrow leaf'/Rotala Magenta-Hard tos ee (not recommended)

Midgound:
Sunset Hygrophila
Alternanthera reineckii
Tiger Lotus

Foreground:
Sold to me as Helanthium tenellum, commonly called Echinodorus tenellus

I would say all these plants are good for a nano with decent light. Most of the colorful plants don't need much light to have decent color.
Some other good options would be rotala indica, rotala sp. red, limnophila aromatica, hygro compacta for some plants that have some color. Almost all green plants can deal with not a ton of light.
07-24-2013 05:50 PM
octanejunkie
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Originally Posted by talontsiawd View Post
A bit of an update...I honestly haven't really figured out what I want to do with this tank, just adding plants I either really like or plants I have always wanted to try.

Looking good, following !

I'm new here and new to planted aquariums, so Iim just getting up to speed.

I liked reading this thread and watching the evolution (or de-evolution) of your tank.

I also really liked the previous version of your tank, with the wood, I would love to build a similar low-tech environment in my future 2-Gal nano shrimp tank that I will be scaping on top of CaribSea Eco-Complete Planted Black. Not sure if I will bottom it with soil or not.

Would you mind listing what plants you had/have in your tank for me? I am not totally familiar with all species yet and want to emulate tanks I like that will be successful for a beginner like me. I am especially interested in the foreground grasses and /or mosses.

Keep it up
07-23-2013 07:35 PM
talontsiawd A bit of an update...I honestly haven't really figured out what I want to do with this tank, just adding plants I either really like or plants I have always wanted to try.

There are two things I really don't like right now. First, I have way too much going on in the foreground. I don't know how I will deal with it. I don't expect the glosso to actually carpet in these conditions but it may or may not look decent if I just trim it. If not, that will solve the issue. I really like the Riccia but I don't want it solely for a foreground just yet. It is the easiest plant to grow ever, haha, so I can fill in the whole front in a week if I change my mind with no issue.

The other thing I don't like is the large piece of driftwood. It was the smallest peice I could find that had some character but I can't find a way to make it look good. I only put it in because I want to try Fissiden. I will swap it out with something smaller.

After that, I will start choosing where I ultimately want everything. I will likely thin out some of each plant as I will likely add a lot more species. I also replaced my Betta with a new one. He was camera shy today.





07-06-2013 11:55 PM
talontsiawd
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Originally Posted by Braden8558 View Post
You should probably put a cover over that tank so that the light bulbs don't fall out or get hit by water and cause a problem.

Good luck with it, Braden
Thank you for your concerns. I have been running this light for around 5 years like this so my concerns are minimal. It can't fall in the tank and the filter doesn't cause direct splashes on the bulb. Just evaporated water which everyone gets when using CLF bulbs without an aquarium specific light fixture.
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