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12-04-2012 08:12 PM
james1542 Glad I could help make sense of it. Don't worry you can beat BBA!
12-04-2012 05:55 PM
m00se Did I say it's maddening?

It's maddening!!!!
12-04-2012 05:53 PM
m00se James,

Thank you for the considered answer you gave. I am always being scolded about light/fert vis-a-vis CO2 and so this approach with high light and root ferts interests me, if not for any other reason than that it broadens my education.

I have yet to bring it to the cognoscenti here because I'm afraid I'll get blasted out of the room with why I'm wrongs, but I have a typical pressurized CO2 setup with a cerges reactor on a closed loop spray bar being pushed with a Mag 7 pump choked back enough to keep the tank from looking like 7-Up. Drop checker YELLOW on opposite side of 40b from spray bar. Excellent circulation via FX5/spraybar, etc..

I get BBA GROWING on the CO2 spray bar! I received a batch of plants from someone who was tearing their tank down and with these plants were a few patches of HG that had a tiny little bit of BBA in it. BIGGEST MISTAKE was thinking "oh I'll just tweeze it out" when I put it in my tank. One year later and this stuff is like a 50's monster movie and nothing I have been able to do has curtailed it any.. All I can do at this point is pluck plant leaves and scrape it off walls and fixtures. This is all with three 23w 6500 twist CFLs on about 8.5 hrs a day...

12-04-2012 05:01 PM
james1542 Oh and I guess I never really answered why do this... I've never come across a tank yet that I felt had so much light that is was unpleasant to look at (unless the light is shining in your eyes).
12-04-2012 04:55 PM
james1542 Moose I don't know if this much light would work with the EI, or any water column fert regime-without resulting in algae soup, For me I get away with high light, but my strategy is to have lots of plants, and keep the water column fairly sterile and keep the nutrients in the substrate. Now this may rule out some plant species all together, especially if CO2 is not used. I think being conservative with bioload and photoperiod are also important when playing with fire to keep the right balance.

Consider it a diffrent strategy perhaps. It could go horribly wrong if you are not careful, but it can be done and there are lots of examples on here, even sans CO2.
12-04-2012 04:36 PM
m00se Ok maybe I'm missing something here (wouldn't be the first time LOL!) but that 3w led unit seems like a dumptruck load of light for a planted tank of any normal depth. This other thread talking about 20, 30 and even 40w led outdoor spot lamps...I don't get it...Seems to me that unless you have pretty awesome luck you're just asking for an algae machine.

Someone care to give me the Reader's Digest version of why this much light is desirable?

12-04-2012 04:10 PM
Originally Posted by m00se View Post
The evo green leaf fixtures using 3W LED's look decent and a pretty good value:

Aquatraders doesn't offer too many sizes in the freshwater spectrum though, check amazon and [Ebay Link Removed] That being said I've read some bad reviews on them. Once those LED's fail, maybe you can just replace them? Quite a bit of bang for the buck though.
12-04-2012 04:45 AM
tylergvolk I have the coralife 36" t5ho with two bulbs. 1 39w 6,500k and 1 39w colormax. See signature for link to my 20L
12-03-2012 02:52 AM
m00se Look at this one then?
12-03-2012 02:42 AM [QUOTE=m00se;2097211]Hi,
I wonder if you saw these? People on the East Coast Cichlids forum seem to think they're pretty ok./QUOTE]

It might be ok for a fish tank light. It is no where near a planted tank light.
Each LED is a .05 mW unit. No comparison to strings of 3 watt emitters.
12-03-2012 01:13 AM
m00se Hi,

I wonder if you saw these? People on the East Coast Cichlids forum seem to think they're pretty ok.
12-02-2012 08:43 PM
Msheresy I'm dosing with flourish every few days and I've started adding root tabs.

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12-02-2012 08:42 PM
Msheresy I was considering this for the 20l

And this for the 29g

Am I still way overshooting the target here?

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12-02-2012 08:39 PM
fermentedhiker Have you looked at the finnex fixtures? the fugeray would work I think for you setups(and be within your budget) assuming you don't add CO2 and the Ray2 fixture should work if you do. Just a thought. I just started using a Ray2 on my 40B so it's too soon to tell you how good it is, but it seems to be pretty good so far.
12-02-2012 08:36 PM
kevmo911 Remember that 20L's are really shallow. You'll probably end up being amazed at how easy it is to give them too much light.
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