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11-30-2012 08:40 PM
summerboy1958 I want to use MTS in my next 20 high. I learned about boiling a topsoil/clay mix rather than the wet/dry cycle. Anyone else try that?

I'm planning shrimp, scarlet badis and small rasboras with wood and a lot of plants. I know this group likes soft water on the low side of neutral pH. My water is anything but that. Is there any mix of MTS that will help? Or is that just a dream?

Sorry to highjack the post!
11-20-2012 05:25 PM
crazydaz LOL!! Thanks for being a good sport about it! I'm sure my turn's coming!
11-20-2012 07:02 AM
Trail_Mix Hahahaha.... or is he??
11-20-2012 04:44 AM
crazydaz Lol! Sorry....but it had to be done.

Trail Mix, you want to talk to DogFish. He is the real Frank.
11-20-2012 03:50 AM
ua hua
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Hmmm...



Perhaps.
Quit toying with the poor guy and tell him who the real "Frank" is.
11-20-2012 03:33 AM
crazydaz Hmmm...



Perhaps.
11-20-2012 02:53 AM
Trail_Mix Wait a minute... I think I might know who he is!! Or atleast I think I know somebody who knows him, they said he was hard to track to and works on all these inovative techniques for fish keeping... never mentioned anything about MTS, but from their description, it must be the same Frank!
11-20-2012 02:51 AM
Trail_Mix Haha, that's awesome, it's like one of those urban legends! Sounds like he's the "mad scientist" type, I would love to get some of his stuff, but tracking him down sounds like a loooong process lol.

Thanks for the info, and your hygro looks great by the way, so jealous!
11-20-2012 02:39 AM
crazydaz Here's an example of the color that I got on my Hygro corymbosa within two weeks of planting it into Frank's Batch II:



I never got that type of coloration before using AS, and I've used it in the same set up a few years ago. Frank's stuff works well!

Trail Mix--I got the last batch before he went underground. Rumor is that he's working on a formulation for Batch III, but he's a bit crazy. I don't know his name. Unless you are friends with him, he prefers to work anonymously. I was able to obtain several boxes of his MTS through a contact. But, I've been told (so I don't know this first-hand) that he is one of those "so smart he's almost crazy" types.

If you can get your hands on some, his MTS is the way to go. It could be challenging to track him down....not sure he likes to be contacted.
11-20-2012 01:49 AM
DogFish
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Hey sorry, I'm confused, when you say "My man does build some Primo Dirt," are you referring to Frank still? I would love something that is crypt friendly, but I'm starting to think my mind is getting too consumed by the substrate. How would you make a batch of MTS that is specially suited for crypts?
Yes, that's the Dude. That's why I quoted you Man.

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...How would you make a batch of MTS that is specially suited for crypts?
You'd need to talk to that Frank guy. Don't know if he'll tell you what in it, It's like family recipe kinda thing. I heard when you go to his house you need a secret knock or he won't answer the door.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUPNe...eature=related
11-20-2012 01:46 AM
wheatiesl337 Any decent mix with the standard goodies for plants will be good for crypts. They grow great for me with organic potting soils right out of the bag--submerged and emergant.
11-20-2012 01:03 AM
Trail_Mix
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Yes, you are wasting time looking for that online. I know that Dude, he got burnt out selling stuff online, he went underground, Off the Grid. He only makes up batches for himself and good friends. My man does build some Primo Dirt. He's into Crypts these days and his dirt really makes them POP.

MTS is kinda like Mirco Brew Beer it can 'brewed' in any flavor to suit your needs.
Hey sorry, I'm confused, when you say "My man does build some Primo Dirt," are you referring to Frank still? I would love something that is crypt friendly, but I'm starting to think my mind is getting too consumed by the substrate. How would you make a batch of MTS that is specially suited for crypts?
11-19-2012 04:00 PM
DogFish
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....Cool, thanks for the input. Where can I find Frank's "Batch II" ? Sorry, I've been on like ten different forums over the last few days and am all spun out lol....
Yes, you are wasting time looking for that online. I know that Dude, he got burnt out selling stuff online, he went underground, Off the Grid. He only makes up batches for himself and good friends. My man does build some Primo Dirt. He's into Crypts these days and his dirt really makes them POP.

MTS is kinda like Mirco Brew Beer it can 'brewed' in any flavor to suit your needs.
11-19-2012 05:43 AM
Trail_Mix I guess my last quetsion would be what plants you suggest to use in a MTS based tank, mostly stem plants and other plants you bury in the substrate I assume right?
11-19-2012 05:29 AM
In.a.Box Moss, buces, ferns will get all their nutrients from fish waste, while all your root plant should get all their nutrients from MTS.

Think... Think... Think...

top soil is cheap to buy, MTS is easy to make... Since you have so many tank laying around... POP one OPEN and MTS that TANK. TEST DRIVE THAT THING...

Any more QUESTION SIR?
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