|10-10-2012 07:42 PM|
|discuspaul||The bacteria will not die off so long as you keep adding ammonia, or a source for producing ammonia, like some fish. So when your ammonia & nitrites are '0' and your nitrates low after a wc, your cycle is complete and i'ts time to add your fish.|
|10-10-2012 07:20 PM|
i dose 3ppm of ammonia, and in 24 hours i get readings of 0 ammonia 0 nitrites and any amount of nitrates. then do a wc to get rid of excess nitrates. then its ready?
but isnt it bad to have 0 ammonia, because then some of my nitrifying bacteria would die off?
|10-10-2012 01:15 AM|
Do water changes to keep the nitrites under 5 ppm.
When you feed too much ammonia the first population of bacteria turn it into too much nitrite faster than the second population can get rid of it. That is why you aim for 3 ppm max on the ammonia. That much generally will not make the nitrite spike too high.
|10-09-2012 10:57 PM|
sorry i never answered your question form your first post on this thread, yes i have an air stone and i did throw it in the tank.
i don't think i have anything that will absorb the nitrates...what could?
and i really dont like the filter either, but its all i have....for now!
|10-09-2012 10:27 PM|
When I speed cycled my 10G, I didn't CHANGE the water. I only started with about 5-6G and kept adding dirty water from the betta tanks.
I pumped up the heat to the 80's but the tank was ACTUALLY 98 degrees for 4-5 days.
Bud, do you have anything that will absorb the nitrates?
I'm not crazy about the filter you're using. I typically use the HOB style filters. In tank ones are troublesome to maintain.
|10-09-2012 10:07 PM|
|pejerrey||As far as I know, water changes make it slower... Not sure tho, someone chime in on that?|
|10-09-2012 09:31 PM|
ammonia = 1-2ppm
nitrite > 5ppm
nitrate = 40-80ppm
another WC to get rid of nitrites???
|10-09-2012 03:51 AM|
hmm...i have been dosing to 4ppm this whole past month...ill cut down now.
nitrates=somewhere between 20 and 40
just added ammonia, now i wait another dayyyyyy
|10-09-2012 03:42 AM|
|10-09-2012 03:30 AM|
|pejerrey||What are you using to test?|
|10-09-2012 03:26 AM|
just finnished the WC, ill check params again in a few.....
|10-09-2012 03:22 AM|
WOW, your Nitrates must have been over 300ppm if that's even possible.
Do you have any plants in quarantine you could feed that nitrate filled tank water to?
|10-09-2012 02:56 AM|
ok, got in the WC right before i left for work,
just tested the water and got ammonia=0 nitrite=0 nitrate>150 still
im guessing i should do another large wc?
then dose ammonia back up to ~4ppm
|10-09-2012 02:50 AM|
Nitrifying bacteria do not like ammonia or nitrite over 5 ppm, but do not seem to care about nitrate.
They require carbonates, they use that as a source of carbon. If the KH can be held stable as low as 3 degrees is fine, but a lot higher works, too. If it keeps dropping (for example, I have substrate that keeps removing the carbonates) keep adding carbonates.
Once a day (not more often) add enough ammonia to read 3 ppm.
When the bacteria can remove the ammonia within 24 hours and nitrites also read 0 ppm the cycle is done.
If you are still not ready for fish keep on feeding the bacteria.
Water changes are optional, but when you are ready for fish you will need to do a really large water change to get the nitrates way down.
|10-09-2012 01:49 AM|
|wendyjo||If your nitrates are really 150 I'd probably do a partial water change and then continue as usual. I'm not sure but nitrates that high may slow down the cycle. Someone jump in if that's not accurate.|
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