The Planted Tank Forum - Reply to Topic
Thread: Johnson18's 55gal Dirted Shrimp Tank-added pressurized CO2! Reply to Thread
Title:
Message:
Trackback:
Send Trackbacks to (Separate multiple URLs with spaces) :
Post Icons
You may choose an icon for your message from the following list:
 

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Planted Tank Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



  Additional Options
Miscellaneous Options

  Topic Review (Newest First)
03-16-2017 05:57 PM
johnson18 I lost a shrimp yesterday. I probably should've done a second water change last weekend when I had the issues with the filter.



I tested the water last night. This was right at the end of the photoperiod, the CO2 had been off about an hour, maybe a bit more. Tests was done using the API liquid tests. I did notice that my phosphate test recently expired, I doubt it was far off though. I'll pick up a new one today.

3/15/16 eod
pH <7.4ish
TDS 152
Ammonia 0ppm
Nitrite 0ppm
Nitrate 0ppm
Phosphate ~1.0ppm
KH 4 drops
GH 4drops ~71.6ppm

Any thoughts?

I didn't have any ro water at the house last night, which is odd as I usually refill my jugs as soon as I empty them. I will do a WC today to try and get the phosphate level down a bit. I'm still running both the 2217 & 2215, yes, it's too much flow. While I did up the co2 a small amount recently, I don't think that it's an issue of too much co2 as I'm only running 1bps.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
03-14-2017 03:09 PM
johnson18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat24601 View Post
I've been reading your thread. Awesome looking tank!


Thanks! It has fun journey! I think I'm enjoying this current set up more than any of the previous that have been in this tank!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
03-14-2017 01:17 PM
Pat24601 I've been reading your thread. Awesome looking tank!
03-14-2017 05:29 AM
johnson18
Quote:
Originally Posted by BettaBettas View Post
Wow! tank is looking very very nice! At first it was so/so had potential, now you have really taken that potential and kicked its butt! Let that lily get some height in the back right corner I'd say, let that ar mini / the crypt (I cant tell if that's ar. mini or a crypt of some kind? either way looks redish brown lol) spread a bit more in that location its in to look slightly bushier. will look fantastic! is looking fantastic! Very good job! haven't seen this thread since the huge anubias was just sitting on a log in the middle. I think im getting to excited for your tank lol! good job


Thanks @BettaBettas! I appreciate your comments. It's nice to have the view point of another hobbyist. This tank definitely still has a long way to go! Things are getting there slowly though.

I'm really hoping that the lily will continue to grow and fill in the full height of the tank. I've tried hard to pack the whole area around and under the lily full of plants, mostly random Crypts. Toward the back there are some C. balansae, C. undulata, the front has C. beckettii, C. x willisii 'lucens', some random stem, baby tears... I don't remember the rest. I've just been trying to trim and replant all the stems to get thinks thicker. Plus I've moved some Crypts around in order to have more under the lily!





The AR that is behind the short end of the wood is Alternanthera reineckii 'cardinalis', it has been a slow grower but should eventually get pretty tall. These stems took a super long time to transition from the tissue culture to the submersed growth. Over the last few weeks these stems have really started growing well.



As far as more red in that area, I'm hoping the Lagenandra meeboldi 'red round' will fill out and provide a different texture above the carpet & a nice pink color! You can see the plant in the picture above

Also in this picture you can see a line of brownish Crypts running from front to back splitting the carpet off from the rest of the tank. This row is a combo of C. nurii & C. beckettii! I'm really hoping they will gain some height! I replanted this whole row about a month ago. All of the plants have at least one or two new leaves!





I added a couple stems of Ammania gracilis almost a month ago which have been growing slow but well. I'm hoping to use this to fill in the background of the left most portion of the carpet, just in front of the Crypts that are stuffed against the back wall.

Overall, I've just tried to add a couple different colors and textures that I plan on expanding into larger groupings of the same things. I know this is probably WAY more of a response then you excepted or wanted! Haha. Oh well, this is all gonna be going happening within the tank quite slowly due to the speed things are growing in the tank!

Thanks again for the comments and critiques!! I welcome them from pretty much anyone! I'd love to hear from more members on the forums!

Here's a random pfr!






Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
03-13-2017 06:36 PM
johnson18 After an extremely stressful 24 hours, I got the 2217 back to working at full flow! The problem was the coarse "sponge" media I have shoved in the bottom of the cerges co2 reactor. When I cut the tube for the inside of the reactor I was about an inch from the bottom of the filter canister. I took a course filter pad, cut it into a round piece the diameter of the bottom of the housing. My thought was that it would help diffuse any left over co2 bubbles. Well, where it met the hose was packed full of dead pond snails! Ugh. I've been trying to reduce the number of those damn things in the tank but killing them inside my co2 reactor wasn't my plan! So All of the media within the reactor has been removed and flow has been restored!







This highlights the huge problem with not being able to check out how your tank is functioning on a daily basis! Who knows how long the flow had been reduced! It was enough time that the water parameters took a hit & started killing livestock! Might be part of reason that I've had some new types of algae pop up this week! Ugh. Sucks but I've resolved the issue...

Currently I'm still running both filters. I left them both just in case this was the only reason for the reduced flow. Plus, I figured it was an easier way to get the 2215 seeded. I've started the shelving build for the stand that will hold my Mr. Aqua 60p. That way the filter will already have some beneficial bacteria built up. Well, my water break is over, back to the wood shop!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
03-11-2017 10:19 PM
johnson18 Well, [censored][censored][censored][censored]! Turned on the lights early to do a little maintenance and I noticed two dead shrimp! My immediate reaction was to do a water change. I have set aside a glass of the water to test later this evening. When I got most of the way through the WC I realized my filter, an Eheim 2217, had barely any flow. So I finished filling the tank & started looking at the filter. I mostly just expected there to be a kinked hose as I've had that issue in the past with my 2215, but nope. I took apart the filter & cleaned everything up, nothing inside looked too bad. The filter has only been installed since the second week of January, when I purchased it new. The impeller looks fine. Not really sure wtf is going on. I'm headed to ANA with the top of the filter & impeller. Maybe Ben can help me out. Luckily I had a brand new 2215 in my closet that I got for my Mr. Aqua build. I tossed that together and threw it into the tank. I think I'm gonna lose at least one oto. Hopefully not much else, but we'll see..... ugh.

Betta, Thanks! I'll fully respond to your post as soon as I get this crap under control!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
03-11-2017 04:55 PM
BettaBettas Wow! tank is looking very very nice! At first it was so/so had potential, now you have really taken that potential and kicked its butt! Let that lily get some height in the back right corner I'd say, let that ar mini / the crypt (I cant tell if that's ar. mini or a crypt of some kind? either way looks redish brown lol) spread a bit more in that location its in to look slightly bushier. will look fantastic! is looking fantastic! Very good job! haven't seen this thread since the huge anubias was just sitting on a log in the middle. I think im getting to excited for your tank lol! good job
03-11-2017 04:17 PM
johnson18
Johnson18's 55gal Dirted Shrimp Tank-added pressurized CO2!

I believe that I messed up when I dropped the photoperiod at the same time I upped the CO2. Since I redid this tank in December, I've tried quite hard to never make more then one change at a time & give the tank a couple weeks to adjust in between these changes. Well, I failed to do that when I reduced the photoperiod by 0.5hr the same day I increased the gas from 0.5 to 1.0 bps about a week ago. The result was an almost immediate(within a couple days) appearance of green dust algae in the front glass. At this point it is a super light coating. I have gone ahead and bumped the photoperiod back up that 30min. I'm going to do a decent water change today, probably around 10 gallons. Since it is just a super light dusting, I doubt I'll even clean the GDA off the glass. I will wipe the bba off the Anubias leaves as I'm sucking water out.

Honestly, this is probably a combo of several different things that occurred around the same time period. When I did my huge trim three weeks ago I loaded the tank with a bunch of new O+ root tabs. There always seems to be a bit of new algae that pops up in the first few weeks after replacing all the root tabs in the tank. It doesn't help that I've not had a chance to do a water change since I stopped the fert dosing, so that definitely has helped create the imbalance! The last couple weeks have been nonstop midterm exams and such at school which leaves me with absolutely no time for anything besides school! I'm sure glad that's over with for a few weeks until the next round of exams! [emoji23]

You can see the dusting of gda just above the carpet.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
03-07-2017 04:49 PM
johnson18 Since my last big trim, I've pretty much just left this tank alone. Things have been filling in well.













I had started a modified EI dosing which I decided to stop. With my schedule I was unable to maintain an appropriate schedule. Not dosing was a better option for this tank than inconsistent dosing.

I bumped the CO2 from 0.5bps to right about 1.0bps. I've also reduced the photoperiod by 0.5hr.

So I believe that due to my inconsistency in the dosing BBA started popping up a little more on the older leaves, where it had already begun. I haven't had time to really clean it off the leaves but I will be hitting it directly with Excel & cleaning it off manually but not until next week during my spring break.





I'm hoping to spend some time next week working on this tank. I'll get into that once I actually get some time to take a close look at how everything it growing.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
02-20-2017 07:39 AM
johnson18 I've lost a couple of my Otos, each several weeks apart. I'm guessing it's fairly random. I found the last one Friday. Parameters all look fine. I haven't been supplementing their food with veggies or anything. I have seen them eating some of the shrimp food that I've been feeding about once a week.

I did a huge trim and replanting Saturday along with a large (~18g) water change. Largest WC I've done since added the shrimp. I've been trying to keep my changes fairly small ~5 gallons at a time plus any that has been lost to evaporation. I'd just dirtied up the water with all my playing around that I wanted to get things cleaned up. I also gave the glass lids a good scrubbing. The plastic that holds the folding glass lids together has started to die. The right side, when facing the tank, has totally dried out and broken, I just took it off so the glass panels are separated.

I really hacked down the Hydrocotyle but replanted everything I cut out. I moved around a couple smaller crypts, this tank is seriously filled with them. I'm thinking about grabbing some more C. beckettii. I've been trying to just pack the area around & under the lily full of different species of crypts, mostly beckettii, pontederiifolia, and undulata. The C. pontederiifolia has been doing well in that space. I've been wanting a taller species to mix into the back left but I don't quite know what I want or if I just need to let the Lagenandra meeboldi 'red round' fill in as I've read those can be monsters.

I've added a couple new stem species, not sure I'm injecting enough co2/light/fertz to make them grow well. It's just two stems of each. One is Rotala macrandra mini pink & the other is Ammania gracilis. They've both been putting out new growth, but the rotala is losing some color. No surprise there. I put both of these in the 20L too. I guess I mostly just wanted to see what I could grow. These I grabbed at ANA for decent prices, I figured it was worth a shot. The AR stems have been doing well, still growing super slow but they look nice and healthy. I've read the super slow growth is the norm, which is fine which me! The Baby Tears was starting to look kinda [censored][censored][censored][censored]ty before I added the co2, getting a bit of algae on it. That all went away and its got nice bright green new growth. Everything else is doing well. Some of the random rhizomes that used to be nice looking Buce before the melt down have started to pop out new growth. The funny thing is that they have spread all over the tank. It's like as I cleaned and replanted the tank, the little bits of rhizome got spread around. I think it's kinda cool. I'm just leaving it alone unless it is in a location that it is likely to die.

I feel like the algae is slowly becoming less of an issue the longer the CO2 is running. I'm still running ~0.5bps. With the cerges reactor I've got no bubbles in the tank. The hair/string algae is still present but in smaller amounts all the time. Some of the big Anubias leaves have a few diatoms on them which I'm mostly ignoring to keep the inhabitants happy and fed! I suppose if it got worse I'd wipe it off. The other algae on the glass around the tank has mostly gone away or been greatly reduced to the point I'm wondering if I need to start adding food for the Otos and Nerites! [emoji23]

I've decided to start dosing a fairly light EI regime of fertz. We'll see how it goes. I'm mostly doing this because my 20L needs it because it's packed full of stems. I figured if I'm gonna take the time to get the fertilizers out daily I might as well add a little in here too! Any thoughts on fertilizers and shrimp that I need to keep an eye on?

I also threw some more root tabs around in certain areas. The new leaves on the sword right up front we're looking kinda funky so I wanted to get more nutrients to it! This same plant has a bloom stem shooting up which will hopefully be packed full of little baby plantlets soon! Gotta make sure those babies can grow!

The shrimp seem to be mostly doing well. I haven't seen any baby shrimp but I think a couple of the berried females are no longer berried. I saw one a couple days ago, who looked like a younger female, that had partially dropped her eggs. Her eggs were totally gone the next day. This was prior to working in the tank and the water change. I've been thinking about putting some IAL into the tank in the areas I've not got heavily planted.


I know this tank still has a long way to go but I feel like I've finally got things on the right track. Now to keep up the work!

Ok pics! From my iPhone of course....






















Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
02-07-2017 01:20 PM
johnson18
Quote:
Originally Posted by BettaBettas View Post
when that carpet fills in more it will make the hardscape really stand out and grab attention, nice start


Thanks! I just surprised myself scrolling through the above pics on my laptop as I looked through a couple fts I took at the end of the photoperiod last night. The carpet looks so full compared to a couple weeks ago! The Hydrocotyle will probably need a trim whenever I get a chance this week. The MM I planted has settled in nicely.

Hair/thread algae continues to be an issue. I've been manually removing some of it on a weekly basis.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
02-04-2017 01:58 PM
BettaBettas when that carpet fills in more it will make the hardscape really stand out and grab attention, nice start
02-04-2017 12:59 PM
johnson18 Questions on the cerges reactor before I install it later today!!

Do I need some sort of media inside? Sponge? bioballs? etc?

I've also not installed a check valve where the CO2 line enters the reactor. I've done this under the assumption that the pressure from the tank will keep water from entering back up the line. The reactor will be about a foot below the outlet on the regulator, there's already a check valve at the regulator before the line outlet, and about 3 feet of hose. I was thinking I'd put a hook in the wall behind the tank to hold the CO2 line up to create an n shaped "loop" in between the reactor and the regulator.

Thoughts?? Thanks for any advice!
01-29-2017 07:59 PM
johnson18
Johnson18's 55gal Dirted Shrimp Tank

Idk what I did to my original post of this, but I obviously deleted the majority of it....



Since the semester is underway and gonna be a busy one I think progress on the Mr. Aqua 17.4 is gonna be kinda slow. So.... I went ahead and threw the new CO2 system on this tank. Right now it's running < 0.5bps w/horrible dispersion throughout the water column. I had originally set the system up using an upaqua(?) glass diffuser. I decided I might as well go ahead and make a C02 reactor. So like halfway through building a cerges reactor I went to move the glass diffuser to a better location and broke it. I snagged an air stone from my supplies and tossed it in. I unfortunately haven't had the time to plumb in the reactor for the last week. Hopefully I will find some time this week.









The plants have responded surprisingly well to the CO2 even with the [censored][censored][censored][censored]ty set up. I added some different plants two weeks ago. The main one being a Lagenandra meeboldi 'red round'. It arrived in rough shape leaf wise, but seems like it will recover quickly. Everything else is looking good.



Last time I counted there were like 5-7 berried PFRs. I keep checking around for baby shrimp, but not super hard. Hell, half of this last week I wasn't home at all during the time lights are on.







I don't remember what else I'd posted.
01-19-2017 02:46 AM
johnson18
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnson18 View Post



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
UH OH!!!!! This Nymphaea rubra must've enjoyed the dose of macros a lot or finally hit an O+ root tab, or both. I came home this evening and these three leaves have easily DOUBLED in size AND there is a new surface leaf that is probably 6 inches BELOW the surface!! Damn!

I'll probably trim the surface leaf off tomorrow, if the lights are still on when I get home. I want to try to get it to produce more submerged growth.


The other SUPER exciting news of the day, I found a berried female! YAY for happy shrimp!
This thread has more than 15 replies. Click here to review the whole thread.

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome