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05-09-2013 01:21 AM
beedee Great thread, may need to reference it in the near future.
05-04-2013 07:08 AM
trueblu8 Excellent thread.
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02-09-2013 05:03 PM
abc ah! will do. Thanks for that last bit of advice. I definitely want to get the planaria out in the open and zap them with the safeguard
02-09-2013 01:01 AM
mordalphus Yes and turn off lights while doing, so Planaria will come out of the gravel
02-09-2013 12:10 AM
abc
Quote:
Originally Posted by nyxkitten View Post
By Triet Do, USC School of Pharmacy
Having hydra and planaria in your shrim tank is both insightful and potentially harmful to shrimplets. I have seen a huge hydra literally attack and kill one of my baby Crystal Red Shrimps. After searching for a cure I have found and tried Fenbendazole (Safe-Guard) successfully. It’s safe for shrimps, snails, fish and plants.

Instruction

1) Purchase the cheapest Fenbendazole product (available at Petsmart)

2) Mix 1 bag (1g) with 100 mL of drinking water. Shake VIGORIOUSLY! There will always be undissolved Fenbendazole settling on the bottom. The point of shaking is to make a saturated solution of Fenbendazole.
3) You will need to save the solution in a bottle for future treatment.

Dosing

1) DOSE is 0.1 g/10 gallons every 12 hours (prefer at night).
2) Use a SYRINGE to draw 10 mL of the solution (contain 0.1 g) and inject to your 10-gallon tank. If you have a 20-gallon tank, draw 20 mL of solution and so on.

3) Dose every 12 hours until all hydra and planaria are gone. Usually after 3 doses.
4) Do a 25% water change if you feel necessary. I don’t normally do that but my shrimps are still healthy and breed fast.




I followed above directions to dose my 20L, didn't kill MTS, fire red shrimps or oto. Also on the first dose I forgot to take out the carbon and purigen. So I don't know if that helped killed them. I used it on hydras
so it looks like I can use half a bag (.5g) with 100ml and apply the same 10ml dosage for a 5.5gal (roughly). this might be better than eyeballing or trying to divide up a whole bag into 20 parts. thanks!
02-09-2013 12:06 AM
abc whew! I was getting worried for a second. OK, thanks for the two affirmations, and I'll give it a go
02-08-2013 11:17 PM
mordalphus
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Originally Posted by abc View Post
are you sure about safeguard/panacur not working? I have been reading the old posts and the referred links. it appears to have worked for many. it's all my local petsmart has and I don't want to order something online I would like to start now before the infestation gets out of control.

anyone try safeguard/panacur with 5.5 gal? I'm going to move forward and give it a try if no one responds but just wondering how other people measured out/divided up a 1g bag for a 5.5.gal?
Yep, many people have used in 5.5 gallons. I've personally sold over 1000 1 gram packets at cost. Once in a while I hear about a snail dying or someone saying it killed their tetra or something, but 99.9% of people using it have been fine.

Planaria need 2-3 doses over a week to kill, because they hide deep in the substrate.

Just dose 1/20th of a packet, or eyeball it.
02-08-2013 10:12 PM
Monster Fish
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Originally Posted by abc View Post
are you sure about safeguard/panacur not working? I have been reading the old posts and the referred links. it appears to have worked for many. it's all my local petsmart has and I don't want to order something online I would like to start now before the infestation gets out of control.

anyone try safeguard/panacur with 5.5 gal? I'm going to move forward and give it a try if no one responds but just wondering how other people measured out/divided up a 1g bag for a 5.5.gal?
I've done it before. I just divided the contents of a packet a few times to get a rough estimate of 0.05g since I don't have a digital scale. It's not water soluble so you'll have to grind any large granules down before adding it to the tank. I dosed a total of 3 times with 48 hours between doses. The hydra weren't affected by the first dosage. After the second dosage they started to contract into little balls on the plants and glass. After the third dose, I couldn't find any more hydra. It didn't kill any snails (pond and MTS) but it did eradicate all the hydra. Though there was no shrimp in the tank when I was dosing. YMMV.

http://www.planetinverts.com/killing...and_hydra.html
02-08-2013 09:53 PM
wkndracer Panacur is Fenbendazole. It has real hazards being used as a water dosed treatment.
(I don't use it)
02-08-2013 09:45 PM
nyxkitten By Triet Do, USC School of Pharmacy
Having hydra and planaria in your shrim tank is both insightful and potentially harmful to shrimplets. I have seen a huge hydra literally attack and kill one of my baby Crystal Red Shrimps. After searching for a cure I have found and tried Fenbendazole (Safe-Guard) successfully. It’s safe for shrimps, snails, fish and plants.

Instruction

1) Purchase the cheapest Fenbendazole product (available at Petsmart)

2) Mix 1 bag (1g) with 100 mL of drinking water. Shake VIGORIOUSLY! There will always be undissolved Fenbendazole settling on the bottom. The point of shaking is to make a saturated solution of Fenbendazole.
3) You will need to save the solution in a bottle for future treatment.

Dosing

1) DOSE is 0.1 g/10 gallons every 12 hours (prefer at night).
2) Use a SYRINGE to draw 10 mL of the solution (contain 0.1 g) and inject to your 10-gallon tank. If you have a 20-gallon tank, draw 20 mL of solution and so on.

3) Dose every 12 hours until all hydra and planaria are gone. Usually after 3 doses.
4) Do a 25% water change if you feel necessary. I don’t normally do that but my shrimps are still healthy and breed fast.




I followed above directions to dose my 20L, didn't kill MTS, fire red shrimps or oto. Also on the first dose I forgot to take out the carbon and purigen. So I don't know if that helped killed them. I used it on hydras
02-08-2013 09:13 PM
abc are you sure about safeguard/panacur not working? I have been reading the old posts and the referred links. it appears to have worked for many. it's all my local petsmart has and I don't want to order something online I would like to start now before the infestation gets out of control.

anyone try safeguard/panacur with 5.5 gal? I'm going to move forward and give it a try if no one responds but just wondering how other people measured out/divided up a 1g bag for a 5.5.gal?
02-08-2013 06:09 PM
sbarbee54 I would not use Pancur, go with Beni bachi no planaria or something. Pancur never really worked for me.
02-08-2013 05:48 PM
abc FYI, the 5.5 gal planted tank has fire red shrimp and tangerine tiger shrimp
02-08-2013 05:45 PM
abc
Quote:
Originally Posted by sbarbee54 View Post
Crush it up and get a little amount in your fingers tips and dose. You will only OD them with a bunch.
looking through some old threads on planeria and hydra, I have them! Argh! I was just getting the algae under control in my 5.5gal planted tank. now this. I removed the nerite snails. I'm just stuck on how much to dose. If I have a 1 gram bag of Safeguard (= 222 mg Fenbendazole).

If I divide that by 10, will that work? I have 10 doses per bag?

I'm going to have a bear of a time eye-balling this. Would the pinch method work? anyone try this?

Otherwise I could use a razor and the back of my petri glass dish and cut up the powder 10 ways and try to put each portion into a separate bag for future doses.

I was thinking:

Day 1: dose
Day 2: no dosing and just see if it's working
Day 3: dose
Day 4: no dosing
Day 5: no dosing
Day 6: dose one last time
Day 7: WC

Do you think this is a good method or would you WC with each dose?

Just wondering if I should build up the safeguard by not WC till the end or WC each time I dose.
10-13-2012 12:08 AM
luna62 Thanks
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