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07-08-2012 11:12 PM
Studman0143 Thanks for the clarification on these. Great information. I'll be stopping by Ace this week.
07-08-2012 05:12 AM
pandamonium on the sakrete sand, its really cheap. when it goes in the water it is noticeably darker than when its dry. i was told that the sand is very close to what amazon river substrate would be like. thats why i used it for my biotope tank
07-08-2012 04:30 AM
somewhatshocked Pool Filter Sand and 'pool sand' are the same thing. That's what AquaQuartz is. Typically about $3-4 for 50 pounds.

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I don't think I want to use pool sand just because it isn't natural and kind of plain in color. At my LFS today I saw they carry Caribsea and there were two color combinations that I would consider.

What is this sakrete all-purpose sand you mentioned DogFish? Can you purchase it at a store or only online? Would you recommend it over CaribSea sand?

And where is PFS found at? From comments, it is sounding like it's easily found at Home Depot? I think I want to go check it out to see if it looks anything like the AquaQuartz posted above.

To clarify I will dose liquid ferts and probably purchase root tabs. And I don't care if the sand it pure white, I just want something lighter in color.
07-08-2012 04:24 AM
DogFish
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What is this sakrete all-purpose sand you mentioned DogFish? Can you purchase it at a store or only online? Would you recommend it over CaribSea sand?...
Look at Home Depot, Lowes or Ace Hardware stores. Around $4.99 a 40# bag. It's used for laying patio pavers, or mixing concrete. The only thing "special" about it is that as const. grade sand goes it isn't to "dirty".
07-08-2012 04:19 AM
Studman0143
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My only advice on that is that sand is sand.there's no good reason to pay the huge rates LFS's charge just because it's marked for an aquarium.
Great point, I think that is why I'm leaning towards what Home Depot has cuz it is at a reasonable price. And I really have nowhere here to gather it myself. Unless I went to the Great Salt Lake, that'd be interesting.
07-08-2012 04:15 AM
steveg89 My only advice on that is that sand is sand.there's no good reason to pay the huge rates LFS's charge just because it's marked for an aquarium.
07-08-2012 03:58 AM
Studman0143 I don't think I want to use pool sand just because it isn't natural and kind of plain in color. At my LFS today I saw they carry Caribsea and there were two color combinations that I would consider.

What is this sakrete all-purpose sand you mentioned DogFish? Can you purchase it at a store or only online? Would you recommend it over CaribSea sand?

And where is PFS found at? From comments, it is sounding like it's easily found at Home Depot? I think I want to go check it out to see if it looks anything like the AquaQuartz posted above.

To clarify I will dose liquid ferts and probably purchase root tabs. And I don't care if the sand it pure white, I just want something lighter in color.
07-08-2012 02:49 AM
DogFish On construction type sand/ Sakrete. In my tanks with this sand all the very fine grains will settle in a thin layer between the MTS and the larger grains ofd sand.

I don't use any facing sand in my tanks so you can see the layers. Even people that keep non-planted tanks are amazed and interested when they see it.

I feel with a 1" sand Cap over 2" of MTS there is no compaction issues. MTS snails travel at least to the top of the MTS layer. This can actually be seen. I've also syphoned off a Black Diamond Cap and observed MTS emails in the Dirt below the Cap.

I believe that the thin layer of fine sand between the dirt and the rest of the larger grain sand cap material when I use Const. sand may be part of the reason I am able to use higher levels of Organic material in my Dirt mix and not see all the problems that are expected.
07-08-2012 12:07 AM
pandamonium i am using sand now. i originally had the sakrete sand from HD (great deal btw) but i was worried about it compacting. so i redid my tank, left the sakrete there and put some 1-2mm sand over it. basically this kinda irregular larger grain. it doesnt compact as much, and flow through it is much better.
07-07-2012 11:19 PM
somewhatshocked Here's my favorite pool filter sand.

AquaQuartz - High Rate Grade:



Typically available at Home Depot and pool supply centers.
07-07-2012 10:51 PM
Hoppy Pool filter sand isn't necessarily white, or any other color. It is whatever color the reasonably local non-carbonate sand quarry produces. Mine is multi colored, sort of light tan in overall look. Some months ago someone reported that their local pool filter sand was black flint sand, as I recall, but black in any case. And, some newer pool filter sands are made of zeolite, some of which is a sickly green color.
07-07-2012 10:22 PM
josolanes I'll be using PFS in my next tank
07-07-2012 10:18 PM
steveg89 Sand has done well in my tank. I do tab ferts and liquid since the sand is basically useless for nutrients. As for cleaning..it's a problem for a little while but mine settled down after a few weeks. My only issue with it is how visible all the waste is. You'll definitely clean more often
07-07-2012 10:10 PM
smokaah I have become a fan of Black Diamond. Its cheap and it looks good.
07-07-2012 10:03 PM
150EH Any sand will work and if you use Java ferns, Anubias, and mosses these are all plants you can attach to wood or rocks anyway so you don't need any substrate under the sand. Just remember sand gets dirty so only put down a thin layer so you can either vacuum it out or add more on top, I know some say they vacuum lightly and have no problems but others are frantic trying to keep it clean, good luck.
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