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03-19-2015 05:15 PM
creekbottom Cv values are a pretty good way to tell, there is a pretty good discussion going on here: http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=837474
03-19-2015 03:11 PM
Hilde How do you know you have the right size needle valve for this setup?
02-02-2015 12:59 PM
Viper
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It's only a 5g Fluval spec V


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Do you have a drop checker? I still think your fish would be fine at 1 bps.

I can't comment on adding a solenoid as I have no idea whether your proposed idea would work.

But if you can swing it financially, I'd look into the Aquatek mini regulator which is for paintball tanks and comes with an integrated solenoid.
02-02-2015 12:45 PM
intermision
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How large is your fish tank? If you only have it running at 1 bps, I wouldn't worry about gassing your fish unless you're running a really small tank.

It's only a 5g Fluval spec V


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02-02-2015 12:05 PM
Viper
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Did you see any improvement in plant growth?
Here's about 2 weeks of growth. 1 week with my paintball setup and 1 week with my 20 pound/regulated setup.
02-02-2015 11:43 AM
Viper
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I just recently set one of these up. The system works great and the plants love it, but I'm worried about gassing my fish.

I was wondering if anybody had put a solenoid on one of these systems. I was thinking about using a T with a solenoid coming off of it. I know I'd loose some CO2 at night, but I'm only running at 1 BPS, and re-fills are cheap enough were i'm not to worried about it.

I figure as long as I have a 1 way i don't have anything to worry about.
How large is your fish tank? If you only have it running at 1 bps, I wouldn't worry about gassing your fish unless you're running a really small tank.
02-01-2015 09:36 PM
intermision I just recently set one of these up. The system works great and the plants love it, but I'm worried about gassing my fish.

I was wondering if anybody had put a solenoid on one of these systems. I was thinking about using a T with a solenoid coming off of it. I know I'd loose some CO2 at night, but I'm only running at 1 BPS, and re-fills are cheap enough were i'm not to worried about it.

I figure as long as I have a 1 way i don't have anything to worry about.
01-30-2015 11:39 AM
Viper
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Interesting, thanks for the information. I think that if I do end up going the pressurized route I may still use a paintball tank, but use a full sized regulator with a Aquatek CGA320 to Paintball Adapter.

Space constrains limit my tank options, but the worry of pressure levels makes me think a regulator with a quality needle valve would be a better investment.

All I can find our setups that have built in solenoids. Can someone PM a link to a good setup similar to the Paintball setups from Aquatek that doesn't have the Solenoid. I don't care to have it shutting on and off and I'm starting to max out on electric and would like to plan on it just running 24.7.

No problem.

I'm not sure of other manufacturers that make paintball tank regulators, but Aquatek makes one that you don't need an adapter for.

Amazon.com : AQUATEK CO2 Regulator Mini : Paintball Regulator : Pet Supplies Amazon.com : AQUATEK CO2 Regulator Mini : Paintball Regulator : Pet Supplies

Also, a solenoid doesn't necessarily mean that you have to have it turning off and on. You still need to hook that solenoid up to a timer to get that on/off cycle. If you just plug it straight into an outlet it'll run 24/7.
01-30-2015 12:19 AM
JavaMossBlues
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I tried it and couldn't get a consistent bubble rate. But then again I didn't have a true ASA on/off valve.

I also think the key to keeping that consistent bubble rate is a quality needle valve. I got the cheapo one from Home Depot and for one, it's really hard to make micro adjustments.

The issue is that a quality needle valve can start running you around $50 which makes this less of a cost-saving method.
Interesting, thanks for the information. I think that if I do end up going the pressurized route I may still use a paintball tank, but use a full sized regulator with a Aquatek CGA320 to Paintball Adapter.

Space constrains limit my tank options, but the worry of pressure levels makes me think a regulator with a quality needle valve would be a better investment.

All I can find our setups that have built in solenoids. Can someone PM a link to a good setup similar to the Paintball setups from Aquatek that doesn't have the Solenoid. I don't care to have it shutting on and off and I'm starting to max out on electric and would like to plan on it just running 24.7.
01-29-2015 05:57 PM
Viper
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Interesting how many bubbles per second were you running?
Didn't really have a set amount, but enough to get my drop checker green. I'd have to constantly adjust the flow though because of the inability of my setup to keep a consistent flow. If I had to guess I'd say about 2.5-3 bubbles per second was enough to achieve that green drop checker.

But at that rate, even my 24oz. paintball tank would need to be refilled every month to month and a half.
01-29-2015 05:38 PM
Matt47890 Interesting how many bubbles per second were you running?
01-29-2015 05:37 PM
Viper
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Did you see any improvement in plant growth?
Definitely. My crypt has exploded. My Anubias constantly has oxygen bubbles on the underside of its leaves and has grown a ton of new roots.

However, that fluctuating co2 flow has also caused a pretty big explosion of algae as well. I was fighting a losing battle with the algae using the paintball co2 method described in this thread (still am sadly).

I've only had a fully pressurized, non-paintball co2 system for about a week now. However, my bubble rate is definitely consistent.
01-29-2015 05:31 PM
Matt47890 Did you see any improvement in plant growth?
01-29-2015 04:39 PM
Viper
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So is this still a viable option? I've heard differing reports on whether this is safe or not.

I'm sure the definite answer is somewhere in this thread but I've read the first thirty pages and it looked good, but the last few pages have me worried about it again.

Anyone have long term facts?
I tried it and couldn't get a consistent bubble rate. But then again I didn't have a true ASA on/off valve.

I also think the key to keeping that consistent bubble rate is a quality needle valve. I got the cheapo one from Home Depot and for one, it's really hard to make micro adjustments.

The issue is that a quality needle valve can start running you around $50 which makes this less of a cost-saving method.
01-29-2015 01:25 AM
JavaMossBlues So is this still a viable option? I've heard differing reports on whether this is safe or not.

I'm sure the definite answer is somewhere in this thread but I've read the first thirty pages and it looked good, but the last few pages have me worried about it again.

Anyone have long term facts?
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