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03-27-2015 05:24 AM
Originally Posted by propsi View Post
I took the plunge. Ordered 2 Kessil A150 Amazon Suns. They came in today.

I'm not really into product porn but I thought I would share my first impressions and some photos nonetheless.

There's good and bad.

The good: very compact and seemingly powerful light. It's my impression__as of yet unverified__that 2 units will be able to light my 120p if hung within 24" of the substrate. My hope is that I will have anywhere between 30 and 80 par with the lamp at 20"-24" over the substrate. Pure conjecture on my part. Unfortunately I have no par meter yet, so no readings to give. The color is slightly blue-ish but does not seem to discolor plants in any unpleasant way . The lamp housing stays warm but never hot. Power consumption: 34watts per lamp. By all appearances this is the same base unit as the rest of the series. Reefers seem to be happy with the product.

The bad: and IMO Kessil drops the ball on this one. Hanging the lamp is something of an afterthought here. A collection of gold hooks, screws and brackets are included in the kit. The assumption here is that there is a canopy over the tank and if not, you're on your own. You can always hang the lamps from the ceiling with some kind wire arrangement, or even by it's electrical wire (no mention in the documentation if that's ok however). But the problem then becomes the length of electrical cord (6ft): way too short to run up to the ceiling and down a wall . Which means you're in DIY territory and possibly voiding the warranty depending on your solution. In my case, I'll buy an extension plugged in as an intermediary between the jacks and hang the unit from the ceiling.

You can always shell out extra bucks for their gooseneck if that arrangement suits your needs. In that case I just find it a pity that Kessil hasn't made any arrangements to hide their 1/4" cable.

The small cooling fan inside the lamp emits a steady whine that may disturb some. IMO Kessil could have spent more effort baffling the unit to limit the sound. Not quite a deal breaker but will take some getting used to.

Documentation is sparse to say the least. No PAR, no spectrography and precious little on how to hang the unit. It's as if Kessil won't stand behind their product and doesn't want to discuss consumers no 1 question: will the lamp do the job it's designed to and if so, to what extent (low, medium or high light ?). Is there a hot spot ? etc..
Too bad.

The final test will come when I put the light use. I'm still assembling my setup so no news for a bit.
any updates or videos on how the tank looks?
01-07-2015 08:20 PM
MrRealty Would the Kessil A150W Sun be overkill on a 17.5" cube?
11-06-2014 06:39 AM
Raul-7 Soon they'll release the A160WE Tuna Sun:
10-13-2014 04:38 PM
Originally Posted by Turningdoc View Post
Bob1. Are you using Kessil gooseneck mounts over the tank. Also, how far above the water do you have them?

Hello Doc,

14" from the top surface of the water level, and 19" from the top of substrate to the top of the water level. So total distance from substrate to the light is 33" Kessil recommends 12"-24".

Yes I do have the Kessil goose necks. And this is really in my mind, the best and easiest way to mount them. I spent a great deal of time trying to figure out a way of suspending them above the tank, and came up with some great ideas. Unfortunately none of them would have looked as clean, unobtrusive or have been any cheaper than the goose necks themselves. No need to re invent the wheel....... I also am using the 90 degree adapters for no other reason than to justify buying them. If I did not use them, I could get the lights closer to the tank. Once its planted time will tell. All in all still no nagging regrets.

10-13-2014 10:25 AM
Turningdoc Bob1. Are you using Kessil gooseneck mounts over the tank. Also, how far above the water do you have them?
10-10-2014 03:05 PM
BigL_RIP Ditto, thanks Bob. Deciding if one would be sufficient here. Looking forward to seeing more.
10-10-2014 10:23 AM
Turningdoc Thank you Bob1. Looks like a good start. Seems like 6500 to 9000 range gives decent options. Can't wait to see with plants.
10-10-2014 01:58 AM
Bob1 Ok here we go. The video quality isn't the best, and the water is tannin stained right now, but it should give people a good idea on spread which is what I wanted to know. I will post more video when I get it planted because there is only black flourite and driftwood to base coloration on, which admittedly isn't much. The aquarium is in a really tight space right now. It's in the basement hallway leading into the rec room. My two channel tube amp system occupies the prime real estate right now. The aquarium is viewed from beneath the stairs and from about 3 feet away. Not ideal I know but, it is what it is. I call it private viewing for one.

First part of the video is with the lights set to the lowest intensity at about 9000k, then it is set to 9000k at the highest intensity. Then the light set to only to one side to illustrate the spread for one light in half the tank. Then set to high at 6500 K.
10-10-2014 01:51 AM
Turningdoc Anyone using Kessil 360we with reefkeeper or apex controllers?
10-09-2014 04:41 AM
BigL_RIP I'd appreciate pics. I use a point source system now, two of the below, and am considering a change:
10-09-2014 02:45 AM
Originally Posted by BigL_RIP View Post

Would a single 360we suffice for a 90P (36 x 18 x 18)?
I would say yes for me it would.......although it would depend upon what you wanted to grow in the tank and how you would want it lit.

What I love about the kessils is the fact that there are shadows in the tank. It looks real rather than just everything being lit with the same brightness. This is just really subjective I know. But it's what I like.This I think comes from two factors: one the single source or focal point of light(spot light), and second, lighting a rectangular area with a round pattern of light.
I don't care about high par numbers. I had high par led fixtures before, and was glad once they broke down because high par is high maintenance. What I love about these fixtures is that I will have I'm guessing medium to medium high light levels with only two small fixtures. I love the open top look of the tank, and it makes planting and maintenance a breeze.

I will post pictures of the set up if someone wants. I know they are not the light for everyone but I'm happy with them.

10-09-2014 12:59 AM
BigL_RIP Bob,

Would a single 360we suffice for a 90P (36 x 18 x 18)?
10-09-2014 12:18 AM
Turningdoc What are your feelings on them being "spotty" and the adjustability?

Companies must have decided the want into freshwater market. Radion just brought out these:

Maybe true innovation is coming for less soon from the whole industry
10-08-2014 10:22 PM
Bob1 I just bought two 360 we's for my 125 long. And although I have them running I can't comment on plant growth as I haven't planted the tank yet. I would be happy to answer any questions other may have regarding these lights. I took a calculated risk in ordering them as I didn't know how they would work out. So far I could not be any happier.

10-08-2014 12:21 AM
Originally Posted by Turningdoc View Post
Not controllable, not linkable, not intensity adjustable, and good luck w corporate support. Just sayin.
Will give you cheaper though.��
and for over $600 you can't even get a decent sunset..
maintains consistent output across the spectrum. 6,000-9,000K.
Or you could get 4 of these..
5 colors of 120-degree dispersion, 0.5W LEDs ensure a full spectrum of light needed by all your aquarium inhabitants
* Features 3-channel timer, sunrise & sunset functions, daytime effects, and moonlight effects

Take your aquarium lighting to the next level with EDGE LED Fixtures from Aquatic Life. These easy-to-use fixtures for saltwater or freshwater use offer a host of features that simplify your life and streamline your aquarium lighting. Choose from 3 sleek sizes, each measuring only 1/2" high and 4" wide. EDGE LED Fixtures from Aquatic Life, ideal for both the novice and expert aquarist, enhance life inside your aquarium while being virtually invisible over your setup. Outstanding features include:

State-of-the-art LED technology covers the entire expanse of the fixture and focuses maximum light output inside the aquarium with no heating of the aquatic environment.
5 colors of 120-degree dispersion, 0.5W LEDs ensure a full spectrum of light needed by all your saltwater or freshwater aquarium inhabitants.
3-channel timer allows simple, completely independent control of the EDGE fixtures' bright white, mixed color, and moonlight LEDs, creating lighting that replicates underwater daytime sunlight, sunrise/sunset effects, and the shimmering blue glow of moonlight.
Sunrise & sunset functions let you easily program the LEDs to slowly turn on or off in 10-minute increments over a 2-hour time period, thereby creating a variety of different sunrise and sunset effects.
As I said.. they all have "warts".. esp. when they think they know what "we" want..
Really Wi-fi???????
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