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05-26-2012 04:04 AM
albirdy i'd love to see an update.
02-12-2012 02:05 PM
Hcancino How are your plants doing? Any signs of new growth?

Also in your video I like how all your shrimp are crowding on top of the zucchini slice and then you see only one hanging on the bottom of it having it all to him/her self.
02-10-2012 03:11 AM
ArabTanker A few updates. Algae has now become manageable. Most died out after the cycle finished. I got my red cherry shrimp 2 days ago. 1 day shipping. The bag was freezing cold and I thought they were all dead. But thankfully, there were no losses.

Here is a video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBEJl...1&feature=plcp
01-27-2012 08:25 PM
ArabTanker Well, i took a better look at my tank, and found even more algae than i thought. I have identified 3 so far.

1) Staghorn Algae (on plants)
2) Green Spot Algae (on plants)
3) Hair Algae (on glass)

I got rid of the Stag and Green Spot by cutting the leaves/plant that hosted them. I got rid of the Hair Algae by scraping it off with a sponge.

I have not yet preformed a water change. Should i?
01-26-2012 03:15 AM
ArabTanker I had a bit of a scare today. I found a huge algae bloom on the front side of the tank. Im not sure what kind of algae it is, i will look into it. But right now my concern is how to get rid of it. What fish/snail will clean up without disturbing my gravel or plants? Or should i just wait until i get shrimp? Do shrimp even eat algae??

Please help. I almost **** myself when i saw it.
Here are some photos.
01-25-2012 03:29 AM
ArabTanker
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Originally Posted by endgin28 View Post
Patience is the name of the game. The plants take a little while to settle in, the bacteria take a while to get going (which helps both the plants and cycling the ammonia/nitrite) and with a little time you will have a nice place both for the plants and the livestock. Your scape is pretty nice, when it fills in it will be great. Keep stidying the site and a lot of this stuff will help you.
I never thought i would be so satisfied with such simple advice.
But, your right. Thank you, sir.
One step at a time, right?

Well, while at work (a library) i found a few books on aquarium plants. I just got accepted into college so i guess its time to set the school work aside and focus on my baby!
01-24-2012 05:52 AM
endgin28 Patience is the name of the game. The plants take a little while to settle in, the bacteria take a while to get going (which helps both the plants and cycling the ammonia/nitrite) and with a little time you will have a nice place both for the plants and the livestock. Your scape is pretty nice, when it fills in it will be great. Keep stidying the site and a lot of this stuff will help you.
01-24-2012 03:29 AM
ArabTanker Well, i went ahead and took my best shot at picking out the best light for my canopy. I got a Coralife 10,000k Daylight T8 15 watt lights. Also got some plant fertilizer, Aqueon Plant Food to be exact.

Should i see some growth soon?
01-23-2012 04:31 AM
ArabTanker
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Originally Posted by Hoppy View Post
I have been wondering how much PAR a typical T12 light produces. Like most everyone else I have just assumed that watts per gallon was a way to guess the light from T12 bulbs, but there is no more reason to expect that to mean anything than there is to expect it to mean anything for other bulb types. So, I decided to do some testing.

I borrowed a new two bulb 48 inch T12 light fixture from one of our local aquatic plant club members, bought a new T12 bulb - a Phillips "Natural Sunshine", 40 watt 5000K, 92 CRI bulb at HD, borrowed our club PAR meter and took some readings. Since I have previously found that I get virtually the same readings with water in the tank and with air in the tank, I omitted the water this time. Then I plotted my smoothed data on a common plot with T5 and PC data:



To compare this with "watts per gallon", I know that a couple of 2 bulb T12 fixtures will grow plants in a 55 gallon tank. That tank is 20 inches deep, so if the substrate thickness is about the same as the height of the bulbs above the top of the tank, each bulb should give about 9 micromols of PAR, or 36 micromols for 4 bulbs. That is right in the middle of the low light range. So my data is consistent with real life results.

The light fixture I borrowed has an acrylic splash shield and a removable back, which is a white reflector. I tested the light with and without the splash shield to find that the shield reduces the intensity about 7%. Testing with and without the white "reflector" shows that the reflector increases the intensity by about 36%. The data used for the chart is with both the shield and the reflector.

Some popular tanks are only 12 inches high. For those tanks T12 bulbs should give about 25 micromols per bulb, so a 2 bulb fixture will give low medium light intensity, probably a good choice for many people with one of those tanks.

I believe T8 bulbs produce about the same amount of light as T12 bulbs, but at a lower wattage, because they are more efficient. The fixture I borrowed uses starters and magnetic ballasts, so I didn't try it with a T8 bulb.

EDIT: Updated chart above and added the following chart:
Another way to use this is to convert it into a simple table, that lets you select a lighting option based on tank height, how high you want the light to be above the top of that tank, and how much light you want. This assumes that multiple bulbs are mounted close together, reflectors are typical for that particular type of light. And, I left out the AH Supply light kits.

I was reading this sticky and i had a question regarding the second chart. I would like to get a T5HO and put it on top of my tank (12in) but the chart says it is too high. Does this mean i will encounter algae problems? Will the HC and Hairgrass out compete any algae?
What do you guys recommend for lighting. Please help.
01-23-2012 02:43 AM
ArabTanker Im getting a bit overwhelmed, I've been reading a lot about lighting but im still completely lost. I do plan on going to the LFS to get the new lights tomorrow after school tho. So any insight is greatly appreciated.
01-22-2012 10:49 PM
ArabTanker What would you recommend as a suitable light source?

That was my original plan, so ill definitely hold off on the Neons.

Thanks.
01-22-2012 10:46 PM
lauraleellbp
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How long should i give the plants before I become worried about not seeing any growth?
Maybe a month or so? With this low light level, growth won't be quick, though you should get some.

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What should i add first? RCS or the Neon Tetras?
I'd add the shrimp first - and I wouldn't add the Neons till the shrimp have at least a decent amount of plant cover grown in so they can hide from the tetras.
01-22-2012 10:37 PM
ArabTanker Thank you.
How long should i give the plants before I become worried about not seeing any growth?
What should i add first? RCS or the Neon Tetras?
01-22-2012 09:59 PM
Bettacrazy I usually don't do water changes in a cycling tank until the near end of the cycle.
01-22-2012 09:51 PM
ArabTanker
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Originally Posted by lauraleellbp View Post
Yeah you definitely need to wait till the tank is done cycling- both ammonia and nitrite need to bottom out and stay at 0ppm before the water is safe for livestock.

And I'm moving this thread over into the Journalling forum since that's really where it should go.
Thank you, i had a feeling i would do that.
Is it true cycling is faster in a planted tank? Also, do i need to do any water changes? Or should i just let it be?
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