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08-15-2012 09:46 AM
Eldachleich I lost more than a few coties. down top six. Bit the six that are left seen to be thriving. Also the dwarf gourami is doing very well. Here's an updated shot for y'all. Plus a few fish shots as well.
07-29-2012 07:20 AM
Eldachleich Well after some time to adjust My gourami is a great size for this tank.
In other news..
The threadfin jumped.. To where.. The top of the light were he got cooked.
I think the stress of being alone got to him. Or the gourami chased him a little.. Not sure.. he got pretty high strung after the others died. It would not have taken alot for him to jump.

The two platy fry are doing well. Growing up fast. One of them is getting slightly territorial over the other and chases him around alot.
The other day I saw him take a big bite out of the other fry's tail. Sad..
I'm still figuring out what the heck to do for their futures...

My gourami is active and playful. Very inquisitive fish. Also very very hungry fish.
He plays very well with others.
My scarlet badis is still grumpy but well.. I never see him eat.. It's weird.

So... those fish have survived well enough for me to think of chancing some more fish.
I went to my LFS today.

Great things are in place.
The owner sold to two young guys. The ones who have been making all the changes I liked.
They were in the middle of renovating when I went in...
Lets see.. The sickly puppy and kitten section was gone.. It was replaced by a smaller number of nicer kennels in which nice healthy resided.
The saltwater section was suddenly 3 displays tanks bigger.
The freshwater section was suddenly 4 rows of planted tanks bigger.

They were setting up aloooooot of planted tank related stock.
Alot..
I went to the top level to look at the tanks and guess what?!?!? Rows and rows of starfire glass rimless tanks..
Awesome!!!
Even some low grade CBS and CRS...
Apparently the owner sold it to them a few months ago, but finally left the place to them yesterday. So today was just day 1 of the changes.
I can't wait to see where this goes?
And some of you (like anyone read this) might remember that I had a conversation with a dumb blonde worker early on in my Hate Tank journal. Asking him to order me more dwarf cories. Which never came in.
Well...
I walked in. And the guy put down the boxes he was carrying and ran over to me immediately.
Running behind me he grabbed my by the shoulders and pushed me toward the back wall that I've determined is the "Nano Fish and Plant" section.
All without saying anything mind you.
Once there he stopped me in front of the very last tank on the right, pointed, and said "Look!! I've been trying to get those in ever since you asked me!"
Right there.. in the back... A giant school of Corydoras pygmaeus.
He let out this giant triumphant smile that seriously lit up the room. Just one of those people that have one of those intense smiles.
I didn't have the heart to point out that they were the wrong kind of dwarf cory.
When I originally asked it was for Habrosus.
But he was so happy that he finally got them in that I decided not to.
Anyhow.
I decided that maybe it was time to start stocking the 6.6 gallon again...
I bought 11 of them ($2 each which wasnt bad) and put them in this tank.
As well as an amano shrimp.
Very hopeful that these guys will survive.
So far everything is great.
Can I say.... These pygmaeus are waaaaay different that my other ones.
These ones are super active and outgoing.. Constantly swimming and exploring. Always active and never hiding.. Ever.. These things are way more outgoing than my habrosus.

And if one of the platy fry swim by them they all take off in a group (these guys havent left school formation once!) and swim with them and try and school with them mid level. That is until the platy gets annoyed and darts away.
07-13-2012 02:55 AM
Eldachleich
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Hah that's cool, you tricked teh plants!
Lol... I'm just happy they were so obliging.
Really its in everyones best interest.
My gourami is getting pretty active now.
Not doing anything to the fish but.. I dunno... I feel like he need a bigger tank lol..
To the tub pond most likely.
07-13-2012 01:41 AM
xenxes Hah that's cool, you tricked teh plants!
07-13-2012 12:50 AM
Eldachleich
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Does running the light only at night mess up the plants' cycle? Like do you see the leaves close during the day and open at night when lights come on?
I suppose. I stick a cover on the front of the tanks so its pretty black in there during the day. All my fish sleep during the day as well.

They do in fact close during the daytime and open after I turn on the lights.
07-13-2012 12:27 AM
xenxes Does running the light only at night mess up the plants' cycle? Like do you see the leaves close during the day and open at night when lights come on?
07-12-2012 11:08 PM
Eldachleich
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OEBT are expppeeensive

How much are your CRS/CBS locally? I got some low grade ones to test out, I like the 3 band striping better anyway.

You could move the platies and some shrimp to this tank, if they die it's no big deal. But I doubt the platies will die unless you put them in an alcohol tank. It's the lighting that fluctuates my lower-depth tanks :/ really heats it up on the non-LED ones if I have the bulb too close.

I just buy a set amount of fish, or introduce new ones for a tank, and see what works. I don't buy the non-hardy fish or whatever doesn't work again. The pygmaeus did not do so well in the 20g, they were way too shy and outcompeted for food, not trying that again. If anything I'll stick with more habrosus in the future (non-crystal tanks)

I might move the platies out of my 20g now too and only have CPDs in there, I see them hunting scuds actively, have not seen them eat a baby shrimp yet, probably too fast.

Lastly.. MGOPS should not turn water yellow? Mine doesn't anyway... only the other soil mixes with too much peat moss.
Yes they are!
But beautiful no?
No CRS locally lol...
I would have to online order.

I really like The EBi ten line form Benibachi.. I hope I got all that right.
The lower grade ones. I like the solid striping more than all white with headgear and whatnot.
It just the little bits of black on the shell, and the soooooolid colours of the purelines that sold me on them.
http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/a...dBestGrade.jpg

These ones. Pretty.
Expensive and pretty lol..
I told myself no CRS until I can have at least two thriving colonies of neos. Different Neos. Teh blue pearls in the beginning died due to a newbie mistake. I have a few left but breeding them in proving difficult due to several factors that need a change. Mainly I need to stop shuffling them around.
They yellows all jumped out and died for some reason.
My cherries are doing great and are breeding like mad. I trade them in to my LFS for credit.
I've been culling them and they are at or close to Sakuura grade now. Actually I think the guy at the store who brings the other ones in is breeding toward PFR.. I bought his extra's lol..
And the Rili are great so far. So here to hoping.
I also promised myself I wouldnt do more sensitive shrimp till I hd at least one thriving tank where I built up all the parameter from scratch using RO water.

I'll wait to add the shrimp in the the gourami is out. He's not interested in other fish but I can tell this guy would looooove shrimp.

Habrosus are the way to go!
CPD cool too.. Wish mine had lived.

Mine stains the water with tannins. Not alot. but a little over time.
When its exposed the water gets pretty yellow pretty quick. The mopani wood isnt helping.

I run my lights at night. If I run them during the day my temps skyrocket to 86+... at night and everything remains stable.
07-12-2012 03:46 PM
xenxes OEBT are expppeeensive

How much are your CRS/CBS locally? I got some low grade ones to test out, I like the 3 band striping better anyway.

You could move the platies and some shrimp to this tank, if they die it's no big deal. But I doubt the platies will die unless you put them in an alcohol tank. It's the lighting that fluctuates my lower-depth tanks :/ really heats it up on the non-LED ones if I have the bulb too close.

I just buy a set amount of fish, or introduce new ones for a tank, and see what works. I don't buy the non-hardy fish or whatever doesn't work again. The pygmaeus did not do so well in the 20g, they were way too shy and outcompeted for food, not trying that again. If anything I'll stick with more habrosus in the future (non-crystal tanks)

I might move the platies out of my 20g now too and only have CPDs in there, I see them hunting scuds actively, have not seen them eat a baby shrimp yet, probably too fast.

Lastly.. MGOPS should not turn water yellow? Mine doesn't anyway... only the other soil mixes with too much peat moss.
07-12-2012 06:29 AM
Eldachleich
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I have tons of fry still, wasn't sure if I wanted to risk packing in more and was short on time. It's awesome 3 fish + like 30+ shrimp survived in that small bag with almost no water lol!

I don't have much of a stock and never really culled/bred those, I'm just cleaning most of it out preparing for CRS. Some will be deep blue w/ black bars, got like 5-6 mutations in the tank at least, so I think you can try to breed for it.

I think I gave you some starter fissidens, pellias, and might be java/xmas mixed in.

I noticed my 20g water temperature is much less stable than my 9g. Depth is good for keeping temp stable. The 6.6 is very shallow. Where did you put the shrimp and fry btw?
Did you get rid of them entirely?
Or just keep like the best 10?
I want some CRS and CBS as well as some RBOEBT.
But being me I want pureline shrimp. The colours on them are so much better lol..
I was thinking of setting of an evolve 8 for them way into the future.

There was a small leak in bag #1, but bag #2 stopped it and all was well.. They did great in there!
Your name is Tony?
It always interesting to me to see peoples names on packages lol..
Lets hope that I can keep these puppies alive. So far they are doing very well.
Right now the two platy fry and the shrimp are in my 5.5 gallon hate tank. They are in there with my dwarf cories and sparkling gourami's.
Its the other tank in my room that nothing is dying in.

All my tanks stay a stable temp...
76 - 80. 76 in winter. 78 - 80 in summer. A tad warm but its as cool as its ever gonna get in my room. After I switch rooms everything will be much cooler. I might even be able to keep CRS!

I've never had a problem maintaining stable parameters in a small tank. Being in cali probably helps temp wise.
For some reason things keep dying in this one. My goby and scarlet badis are thriving. And my threadfin rainbow and gourami are doing great. If everyone is still doing great by the time he goes in the lotus bowl I might chance some new small fish in there.
Now that the MGOPS is capped on that side my water gets yellow ALOOOOT slower...
07-12-2012 05:06 AM
xenxes I have tons of fry still, wasn't sure if I wanted to risk packing in more and was short on time. It's awesome 3 fish + like 30+ shrimp survived in that small bag with almost no water lol!

I don't have much of a stock and never really culled/bred those, I'm just cleaning most of it out preparing for CRS. Some will be deep blue w/ black bars, got like 5-6 mutations in the tank at least, so I think you can try to breed for it.

I think I gave you some starter fissidens, pellias, and might be java/xmas mixed in.

I noticed my 20g water temperature is much less stable than my 9g. Depth is good for keeping temp stable. The 6.6 is very shallow. Where did you put the shrimp and fry btw?
07-12-2012 04:57 AM
Eldachleich Most people recommend at least 10 gallons.
But my tank is already as long as a 20 gallon.. I can't imagine he would look smaller in one.
I have a plan! He will be the fish going in my 25 gallon tub pond after the lily gets delivered.
But I'm giving him a week... To see if I get used to it...
07-12-2012 04:54 AM
Eldachleich
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Nah, your tank is planted densely enough that they suck up the ammonia as they're released. A lot of aquatic species suck up ammonia directly before nitrates.

Really? The 3 fry all survived? Shrimp too? No leaks? I was in a hurry

Yeah I tried to jam-cram stuff in that tiny box lol. That big runner is a Hydrocotyle Leucocephyala, yeah Brazilian pennywort.

I bought erios parkeri, hope they survive, also got a variety package I'm going to start testing with, might have different stuff to send you later.

Can you return the gourami? They need a lot of space. It's a dwarf variety right? Even those recommend about 20g.
All three survived!
One of them got stolen from me though.
One went home with my friend. She thought it was so adorable.
Its going to a good home in a heavily planted 35 gallon community.

Everything else is currently being held in my Hate tank.
All the shrimp came in wonderfully!!!
Actually a few came in and had molted in the bag. And 2 of them are saddled! They look really good! I can't believe these are the culls. I can't wait to see how your stock turns out.

I'm also super stoked about the subwassertang. As well as the mosses.
What kind of mosses are there?
I'm super super stooooooked!
And super stoked about the pennywort. I've been wanting some in my 6.6 gallon for a while.
07-12-2012 12:45 AM
xenxes Nah, your tank is planted densely enough that they suck up the ammonia as they're released. A lot of aquatic species suck up ammonia directly before nitrates.

Really? The 3 fry all survived? Shrimp too? No leaks? I was in a hurry

Yeah I tried to jam-cram stuff in that tiny box lol. That big runner is a Hydrocotyle Leucocephyala, yeah Brazilian pennywort.

I bought erios parkeri, hope they survive, also got a variety package I'm going to start testing with, might have different stuff to send you later.

Can you return the gourami? They need a lot of space. It's a dwarf variety right? Even those recommend about 20g.
07-11-2012 11:18 PM
Eldachleich
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LOL! You and impulse buys, worse than me.

Exposed MGOPS should not kill fish, you said your water parameters were fine. Worst case it leeches some ammonia into the water. I mess around in my tank and get dirt everywhere all the time. My unfiltered dirt bucket outside has only dirt.
I'm a terrible impulse buyer. My brain always makes split second in the moment decisions. I'm good in a crisis though! Just not with money.

I know it wont directly kill them. But maybe it's causing large ammonia spikes which get handled by the filter later before I can get to it.
Which is good. That would mean my filters working well. But the constant spike of ammonia might be what killing them. That could be why they all lasted for a few weeks.

Then again... I'm probably grasping at straws.

You package came this morning! All in great health!

Is that one plant a big pennywort? It looks like one.
I've been wanting pennywort for a while now.

I did not expect you to pack to much into this box!!! And I got subwassertang! Awesome!
Now I need to find a tank it can live in lol...
All the ones in my room are pretty warm.

I'm giving the gourami a week in the tank before I decide.
I really like him. Hes beautiful and wonderful and yadda yadda..
But hes so big!
Like huge. And this tank is loooooooooong... Which means he looks this big in bigger tanks. I sorta feel maybe he had been a poor choice for this tank.
07-11-2012 02:47 PM
xenxes LOL! You and impulse buys, worse than me.

Exposed MGOPS should not kill fish, you said your water parameters were fine. Worst case it leeches some ammonia into the water. I mess around in my tank and get dirt everywhere all the time. My unfiltered dirt bucket outside has only dirt.
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