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12-12-2012 02:16 AM
orchidman
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Originally Posted by lbacha View Post
If buying my mom an orchid will make me 17 again I'm all for it, lol..

Len


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lol! i think i was 13 at the time..
12-12-2012 02:15 AM
lbacha
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Originally Posted by Fishies_in_Philly View Post
i don't know how long the vine is, but i would have it emerge from the moss in the upper left, run down the branch to just before the fork, where it would drop into the water. then emerge on the right side and run across the two vines from the right onward to the back somewhere. if using 2 vines for it, bury the aquatic ends so that it just looks at it grew in and out and covered in sediment. it does 2 things, 1 is gives a bit of "motion" to the left, and it breaks up the symmetry of the 2 vines on the right. at least in the pics you posted, they look as though they are falling at identical angles. that cross over at the bottom may steer the eye away from it.

just a wee bitty thought
Yeah I need to look at the tank in person again, I added the vines and then left for work and havn't been back since, I'll be back this weekend so I'll try some variations and see how I like them. I also have a ton of plants that I want to add so I'm really thinking of removing the large Schismatoglottis picta on the right and going with smaller plants since it really is dominating that corner, I trimmed out a bunch of stems before I took the pics and it was still huge.

Len


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12-12-2012 02:10 AM
lbacha
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awesome! i may be interested..send me a pm, id love to chat orchids with you!
be careful though, orchids are sneaky little thing. one moment your buying your mom one for mother's day and before you know it, you are a 17 year old with 80-90 orchids that you grow in your room and have started breeding them!
If buying my mom an orchid will make me 17 again I'm all for it, lol..

Len


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12-12-2012 02:03 AM
Fishies_in_Philly i don't know how long the vine is, but i would have it emerge from the moss in the upper left, run down the branch to just before the fork, where it would drop into the water. then emerge on the right side and run across the two vines from the right onward to the back somewhere. if using 2 vines for it, bury the aquatic ends so that it just looks at it grew in and out and covered in sediment. it does 2 things, 1 is gives a bit of "motion" to the left, and it breaks up the symmetry of the 2 vines on the right. at least in the pics you posted, they look as though they are falling at identical angles. that cross over at the bottom may steer the eye away from it.

just a wee bitty thought
12-12-2012 01:51 AM
orchidman
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Originally Posted by lbacha View Post
I will definitely be in touch, the P gigantea I got off eBay and it is small 3-4 leaves, I really can't do it justice because I don't have room for it so let me know if you are interested and maybe we can work out a trade. I'm not too versed on orchids so some tips would be great I have a few of your box store phals in my apartment but I struggle to get them to bloom a second time although they seem to grow fine.

Len


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awesome! i may be interested..send me a pm, id love to chat orchids with you!
be careful though, orchids are sneaky little thing. one moment your buying your mom one for mother's day and before you know it, you are a 17 year old with 80-90 orchids that you grow in your room and have started breeding them!
12-12-2012 01:49 AM
lbacha
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just wrote up a whole big reply. and then exited the page

hhaha! gigantea can get huge (hence the name!) how old is yours? thats one phal species i have not gotten yet..

the 4 i mentioned above ( all phals, fyi) are similar size to bellina.

if you need vendors, pm me! i know where you can get alot of these!

phals in borneo...

borneensis (duh, but good luck finding one!)
cornu-cervi
pantherina (hard to find)
cochlearis
fuscata
fimbriata
luteola ( hahah your chances of finding one are next to none )
maculata
amabilis (stunning white with large flowers, mother of all "standard" phals. might get a little big though)
deliciosa (a super small phal!
pulcherrima (recently re-classified from Doritis of Phalaenopsis, most wills ell this as Doritis)
I will definitely be in touch, the P gigantea I got off eBay and it is small 3-4 leaves, I really can't do it justice because I don't have room for it so let me know if you are interested and maybe we can work out a trade. I'm not too versed on orchids so some tips would be great I have a few of your box store phals in my apartment but I struggle to get them to bloom a second time although they seem to grow fine.

Len


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12-12-2012 01:34 AM
orchidman
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Suggest away, I have a Phal bellina in there but havn't found too many others for sale, I do have a Phal gigantea in my holding tank but there is no way it will work in the tank as it is already sending 6-8" leaves. If you know of any smaller high humidity loving ones let me know, other types that are tropical and grow as ephitytes would be great to add to the vines as well.

Len


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just wrote up a whole big reply. and then exited the page

hhaha! gigantea can get huge (hence the name!) how old is yours? thats one phal species i have not gotten yet..

the 4 i mentioned above ( all phals, fyi) are similar size to bellina.

if you need vendors, pm me! i know where you can get alot of these!

phals in borneo...

borneensis (duh, but good luck finding one!)
cornu-cervi
pantherina (hard to find)
cochlearis
fuscata
fimbriata
luteola ( hahah your chances of finding one are next to none )
maculata
amabilis (stunning white with large flowers, mother of all "standard" phals. might get a little big though)
deliciosa (a super small phal!
pulcherrima (recently re-classified from Doritis of Phalaenopsis, most wills ell this as Doritis)
12-12-2012 12:56 AM
lbacha
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Originally Posted by orchidman View Post
either way..just add more orchids to it

i could give you a few bornean phalaenopsis species suggestions if you wanted. off the top of my head i can say that sumatrana, cornigniana, modseta, and mariae are all found on borneo
Suggest away, I have a Phal bellina in there but havn't found too many others for sale, I do have a Phal gigantea in my holding tank but there is no way it will work in the tank as it is already sending 6-8" leaves. If you know of any smaller high humidity loving ones let me know, other types that are tropical and grow as ephitytes would be great to add to the vines as well.

Len


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12-12-2012 12:35 AM
orchidman
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Speaking of shopping I'm thinking about one more vine on the left hand side of the tank, I will have it snake down through the moss and then attach up where the vine on the right hand side does. What does everyone thing? is it too much? I have also considered some driftwood that i cover in moss and add some orchids to coming out of the upper part of that side and jutting out towards the front, something is missing on that side imho.

Len
either way..just add more orchids to it

i could give you a few bornean phalaenopsis species suggestions if you wanted. off the top of my head i can say that sumatrana, cornigniana, modseta, and mariae are all found on borneo
12-12-2012 12:14 AM
Wy Renegade
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Originally Posted by lbacha View Post
Speaking of shopping I'm thinking about one more vine on the left hand side of the tank, I will have it snake down through the moss and then attach up where the vine on the right hand side does. What does everyone thing? is it too much? I have also considered some driftwood that i cover in moss and add some orchids to coming out of the upper part of that side and jutting out towards the front, something is missing on that side imho.

Len
I think the vine would look good, but it would add a higher level of symmetry which you may not want. A nice piece of driftwood covered in moss and orchids could look nice as well, but I would angle it more towards the center as it comes out rather then bringing it straight out. Even that might be too much however.

What about a nice branchy piece that sits down in the water and then rises up and out, or is more at the surface. Then cover that in moss and orchids. Don't bring it straight up, but bring it up at an angle.
12-12-2012 12:07 AM
Wy Renegade
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Exactly, although I do like the shopping, I also think tanks that have grown in have a more natural feel which is always my goal (I'm really picky about mixing plants from different areas, I've considered pulling the Piptospatha rileyi from the tank since it is actually from mainland Malaysia and not Borneo Malaysia, it is also why there are no fish in the tank right now). I just talked with Scott who made my rocks and he is working on some new molds so maybe we will see a new scape in the future.

Len
I hear you on the biotope and also enjoy the challenge, but the down side of that is that sometimes it can severily limit the overall look of what you are going for. In my native bog tank, I've limited myself to plants that I've collected locally that work. While I like the overall feel of the tank and the purity of the specimens, it definitely lacks the variety and lush look that you see in many of the tanks. My 30gal paludarium on the other hand, I've allowed to be a mixture of various types of plants to create the look I was going for, and still create a nice place to keep natives rather than tropicals. Both tanks have undergone a lot of transition and each is unique and appealing in its own way.
12-11-2012 11:59 PM
lbacha
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Originally Posted by DogFish View Post
Len - That really is what this hobby is about the journey. It's not about shopping.
Exactly, although I do like the shopping, I also think tanks that have grown in have a more natural feel which is always my goal (I'm really picky about mixing plants from different areas, I've considered pulling the Piptospatha rileyi from the tank since it is actually from mainland Malaysia and not Borneo Malaysia, it is also why there are no fish in the tank right now). I just talked with Scott who made my rocks and he is working on some new molds so maybe we will see a new scape in the future.

Speaking of shopping I'm thinking about one more vine on the left hand side of the tank, I will have it snake down through the moss and then attach up where the vine on the right hand side does. What does everyone thing? is it too much? I have also considered some driftwood that i cover in moss and add some orchids to coming out of the upper part of that side and jutting out towards the front, something is missing on that side imho.

Len
12-11-2012 11:56 PM
Fishies_in_Philly
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Len - That really is what this hobby is about the journey. It's not about shopping.
amen to that!!
12-11-2012 11:54 PM
DogFish Len - That really is what this hobby is about the journey. It's not about shopping.
12-11-2012 11:45 PM
lbacha
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Originally Posted by DogFish View Post


This has been one of my favorite Journals. When you look at post 372 then go back in time to post 145...simply amasing!
That is actually a really good comparison, I should put those two shots together since that hardscape shot on 146 is exactly how the rocks are laid out before I added the great stuff.

Also everyone thanks for all the compliments, this has been a heck of a journey to get it where it is now and I still feel it has alot of growing in to do. I really want it to feel like it's been there for years. So to all of you that think you need your tank looking perfect from day one the only way that happens is to spend tons of money and then you miss the grow in process which is a big part of the journey.

Len
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