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08-18-2011 08:39 PM
dbLbogie Hey Newman, thanks for the comment

Yep I have one stem of Angustifolia in there for about 3 weeks now. It was a topped stem from my 15 gallon. It's been making roots and has a 5 inch side shoot coming out now. I'll see what happens, but I fear it will just make bamboo stalks to the surface and grow emersed. Well maybe that will be fun too
08-18-2011 07:38 PM
Newman willow leafe hygro is an excellent choice for this tank. unless you already have it there, get some and allow it to take over. will look awesome.
08-18-2011 04:11 AM
dbLbogie Took some plants out that were just getting too large for 6 quarts of water. Added in a stem of Ludwigia, Rotala, and H. Angustifolia. The dwarf sag is starting to spread like it always does. The larger Vallisnera is kind of taking over the tank.

I am thinking about adding something red in here soon as well to get some contrast.

I've had a small piece of knotty driftwood sinking in my 55 gal for the past 3 months that is almost ready to go in here. I'll have to measure its displacement though and make sure I am not removing too much water by adding this...

The only fauna in here right now are three tiny Mollies. I had some algae woes since the tank was set up, and they are cleaning it up swimmingly

Thanks for looking!!

Aug 17, 2011 Quick Pic
08-11-2011 02:45 PM
Quentin Looks good derimmed
08-11-2011 02:38 AM
dbLbogie I am no Holiday Inn Express expert, as this is my first time messing with river bed gravel

I collected my river bed gravel in a 1.5 gallon mayo container. I rinsed it out in a 6 gallon tall bucket with the garden hose. If you compare this to rinsing old Eco Complete, most of this new RBG would get suspended in the bucket from the current. It just has much less mass to it.

And nope I don't do the Sara method of replanting yanking up the entire root stock. I always just use a fairly sharp knife to cut the creeping roots around the stem and carefully pull up slowly as to not disturb the lower substrate layers. The old roots are low in the substrate and will break down in time and there is enough of a giant root ball down there to keep things from going anerobic.

My biggest peeve is the old organics dying off of the rock pores showing up on top of the substrate. This is really not a beginner substrate to play with.
08-11-2011 02:18 AM
wkndracer good info thanks
tried some lake bottom materials here and wasn't a fan but that was before joining the forums. Same problem with it being light. MTS makes a mess if pulling plants but stays put under the cap if left alone. Is the gravel size a factor maybe?
08-11-2011 02:14 AM
dbLbogie More along the lines of testing a riverbed cap. I've seen journals over the years and I loved this look because it looks exactly like a faster pace river bottom while diving, but in an aquarium.

I've been capping all kinds of dirt since I was a kid. First PT journal though.

So far, I can say that I am not a fan of the river bed cap. It is always dirty. River bed substrate is so light in the water, almost like disturbing Laterite. Every time you mess with anything it makes a mess. However the consistency when pushing new roots into the substrate is like Traffic Bond. I heavily rinsed and sifted / discarded anything that would fit through a window screen.

I would strongly advise some kind of bleaching or H2O2 treatment or even boiling before using river bed gravel in a tank to kill off the organics, as this now decaying mulm, even 2 months later is still a PITA to siphon off the bottom, and is still showing up...
08-11-2011 01:48 AM
wkndracer testing the method setup or a tiny critter tank?
08-11-2011 01:43 AM
dbLbogie I got this tank for free and removed the top and bottom rims when I set this up in mid June 2011

The bottom layer is MTS, then top soil from Menards, then capped with river bed gravel from the Dam down the road.

The dirt fraternity asks for a tank journal, so here is mine

Total Displacement: 6 Quarts - Gravel to top surface tension
Filter: Red Sea Nano with Brillo sponge as media
CO2: Hagen CO2 diffuser w/ DIY 2L bottle
Ferts: EI w/ 50% weekly water change
Light: 13w CFL Walmart daylight bulb ~10 hrs
08-11-2011 01:42 AM
Six Quart Hex by dbLbogie

Here is my de-rimmed six quart hexagon

07/07/2011 - First Real Tank Pic Taken

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