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11-06-2011 08:30 PM
Abrium My only Co2 experience is pressurized with my 125 gallon, I have other planted, low-tech tanks in the house but none with Co2. I know that I only have 1 entry point for the Co2 so due to that my Co2 reaction and tank flow is monitored closely to ensure uniform dispersal.

I would love to attach my extra 10 lb canister to my 20 gallon long but I don't have another rig.
11-06-2011 06:39 PM
green_valley WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW....this is a monster tank. You mentioned that you got CO2, correct? have you had a smaller tank with CO2? I am curious if the concept of CO2 is the same between the big tank and small tank.

AMAZINGGGG Growth you have there.
11-06-2011 06:05 PM
aXio Your tank is growing in very very nicely.
11-06-2011 05:36 PM
jart Good thread. Any updates?
11-06-2011 02:12 AM
zenche looking real nice
11-06-2011 01:21 AM
Abrium I am also hoping to get a good picture of my red shrimp/assassin snail populations. I have yet to find one that does either colony any justice.
11-05-2011 08:07 PM
Abrium Well its been almost 2 months and seeing the request from Zenche I thought I'd post some updates/comparisons between the replant and the growth we have after almost 60 days.

I like to start my updates with where we were because its always good to have the reference point in the current post instead of having to bounce back and forth. Lets step right into carpet growth. When I did my replant I found a bunch of dwarf sag hiding among stem plants and decided that I'd use that plant for my carpet instead of dwarf hair grass because the hair grass just started to look horrible and stringy.

Here is my replant dwarf sag followed by what it looks like today. You can also notice the single, almost dead stem of pogostemon stellatus on the left hand side of the top photo. Even though I find this plant very difficult to work with because it is fragile I am continually taking clippings from that sole plant and making a border of pogostemon stellatus in front of my giant vals. You can also see that I removed the onions and the M. lace as focal points because they were located dead center of the tank and it just didn't look good (I'm trying to study the finer points of aquacaping now and put theory into practice). All in all the carpet growth has been explosive but its never fast enough is it.

Moving away from the carpet lets take a look at some other plants that I had come in for the replant. I had some ludwigia peruenis and alternanthera reineckii come in for the replant and you can see those stems also dying in the following picture. All of the plants that I had come in from that shipment were on the verge of dying.

And a close up, the alternanthera reineckii can't be seen as it is behind but it is in just as bad shape. You can also see the awesome flame moss I picked up from our very own swap and shop and I had just put it on that wood. There is also small aponogetons in the corner of the tank that I need identified because they are now giant.

Lets look at our growth in that corner today.

The aponogetons are now about 40" to 50" and lay across the top of the tank. If you can identify these bulb plants shoot me a PM because I would love to know. The bacopa is shooting right up and you can see a nice bed of rotala that I have cut and replanted about 4 times.

The flame moss is just doing GREAT. This has got to be one of the faster growing mosses that I have had experience with and the green is just georgous. In 60 days it has straightened up and covered that entire piece of wood. I added a little pellia cherry on top because I didn't have anywhere else to put it.

Those 3 to 4 dying stems of ludwigia peruenis and alternanthera reineckii bounced back and I started parting out the new growth to make a nice bed of both seen here partially covered by a crypt lucen that will not stop growing.

I have also continued to top and replant my limnophila aromatica until I have a nice little bed. It is thin but I already have a few of the back plants that can be cut and moved forward.

I was also lucky enough to pick up 4 stems of hygro pinnatifida and it is coming in beautifully. Each stem was about 4" when I purchased them and now they are all almost a foot tall with some deep colors.

Welp that is the majority of the growth that I have experienced and I am somewhat impressed because each plant was removed, cut down to nothing or received and put into a new environment so all the plants had an approximately 3 week adjustment period. I have some full tank shots that really show my giant val growth but I have to trim those weekly because if I hadn't they would of blocked out the sun for the majority of my tank. Enjoy the full tank shots and we'll have an update sometime after christmas.

Left front:

Right front:

Right front with daughter:

So to do a final comparison we have the replant:

and we have today, isn't it amazing:

Until next time happy planting,
11-01-2011 04:45 AM
zenche new pics plz
09-18-2011 07:58 AM
Abrium Seems so.
09-16-2011 08:08 PM
Originally Posted by Abrium View Post
the strange thing is that it happens faster than you would think.
LOL, I know it is as if they plants want to get back to the same place as quick as they can.
09-16-2011 06:52 PM
Abrium the strange thing is that it happens faster than you would think.
09-16-2011 03:57 PM
2in10 Wow a lot of work, can't wait to see everything grow back in
09-16-2011 12:38 PM
Abrium Yeah I love those giant vals, for a larger tank I haven't found a better natural background either. Most other plants have longer stems and then balloon out if left alone. A giant val fills out the same surface area from the substrate to however tall you want to let them go. I have seen them take off in a low light/low tech tank also. Just an all around versatile plant that can be used to cover the back, equipment, or fill out a specific area.
09-16-2011 06:23 AM
shrimpnmoss Wow...that's a lot of work. The jungle looked great and I'm sure the new scape will look even better after it fills out. Vals do take over like crazy....I bet your water was crystal clear when you had 70 Vals in there though.
09-16-2011 05:34 AM
Abrium First off I want to apologize to anyone who doesn't like pictures in the journal thread. I think that in order to convey exactly what you are doing/what is happening in your tank during updates you need to provide pictures to show the true beauty/disaster. I just wanted to get that out there.

So... I couldn't help myself I pulled every single plant out of my 125... I was sitting there staring at it (like we all do, don't pretend like you don't) and thought to myself that I actually wanted to scape it. I am right now what you would just call a plant collector and not an aquascaper. In my defense there is so much that you can do with a 125 gallon tank that trying to scape it appropriately with a large diversity and keeping beauty in mind is hard because you get lost in it easily. So, I tore it all out and set out to attempt scaping it. Here is my overall with pictures along the entire process.

I wanted to cover this thin piece of driftwood because the growth I have gotten on it was amazing, I'll do some pics on that first.

I had received this piece of driftwood and was thinking about mossing it up before someone gave me a LOT of java fern and I mean a lot... There was lace and standard so I decided to cover this piece in java fern instead of moss just to see where it would go. Notice TPT up on the browser, GO US, and pay no attention to the laundry because we have 4 children and we were on strike that particular weekend.

Here is the bucket o' fern before I split it out to see what I was working with:

Once I laid it all out I realized that I had enough to cover the wood and that is when I decided to go the fern way.

Now I have minimal experience with java fern plants. All I really know is that they can grow under almost any light/fert conditions and you don't bury the rhizome if you want the plant to live. When I got through with my driftwood I was feeling like I had made a mistake. My 'should be beautiful wood' was sparsley planted and just looked like I had all in all made a mistake. Would you put that in your tank? Note the spray bottle, it took me a long time to make a piece of wood look THAT bad so I had to keep the plants moist while I worked with them.

NOW, this string of pictures were taken about 4 to 5 months ago. I never really paid any attention to this piece of driftwood because everything else kind of grew up over it and it slowly but surely became unseen. I mean you somewhat have a hard time spotting it:

I had literally forgotten it was in there but when I started pulling my tank apart plant by plant I was in for such a surprise. When I seen this thing I almost fell over. The java fern has completely consumed all available real estate on the wood and filled out just great.

Here is this piece in my tank now:

Front portion:

Top portion:

The back I have pushed into a corner covering equipment:

Now, on to the murder of my tank. Reference the picture above for the amount of biomass I had developed with great growth and lets observe the tear down.

When I started tearing plants out my wife noticed the massive root structure of this 3" cryptocoryne lucen and she just had to have a picture of it to show her friends (what she really does is call me the aquatic farmer in front of her friends so they get a laugh out of it hehe.)

And, of course monkey see, monkey do so our third had to have her picture taken with it also.

About 4 hours into it. It took some time to remove all of the background giant vals without destroying the root structures completely. As I pulled the vals I cut off approx. 30' to 50' of growth. Those vals are truely invasive. I'm a pretty good planted tank guy but there is no way that I provide exactly what these plants need. I can get about 3" of growth out of certain vals each day. The odd thing is when I bought them I bought 5... 5 plants have turned into about 70+ over 6ish months. Truely amazing.

The tank re-scape took me from roughly 4 in the afternoon until about 3 in the morning. Prior to starting I assumed that I was going to be there for a while so I set up a table about 5' from my tank to hold everything. I was looking all professional.

When i got through pulling all of the plants out I had filled this container about a third of the way up. Honestly, I had expected more...


Alright, lets fill it up.

I removed all of the dwarf HG that I had because even though it was slowly filling the foreground out it just looked horrible to me. I had bought a single pot of dwarf sag when I started this tank a long time ago and to my amazement it had propagated fairly well and gave me enough to start a minimal carpet up front. I chose a crinum calamistratum as my center piece plant because I love the leaf crinkles. I have it surrounded by 3 M. lace in a half circle.

I had new plants come in the day of the rescaping which worked out as planned so I was amazed. I put the new Ludwigia Peruenis, alternanthera reineckii, and pogostemon stellatus throughout the tank for color and I can't wait until my high light starts to turn some bright colors on.

It looks barren right now but trust me those vals are in the back just itching to grow and then once my new color comes in this tank will be georgous.

Before I end this post I would just like to give a shout out to all of you who use the swap and shop in either a seller or buyer capacity. I have bought plants from liveaquaria, aquariumplants, assorted ebay vendors, and users of this forum and each and every time I have gotten flora or fauna from someone on this site it has completely surpassed any retail site in quality and quanity and that includes my LFS. I only hope that those of you that have purchased plants from me experience the same quality that I do from you. Before I quit this insanely long post I'm going to show two examples right quick.

I ordered flamemoss from liveaquaria and also received a portion from rlswaney73 here. Aside from letting the pictures do the talking I'd just like to say that the portion that I received from rlswaney73 was easily 4 times the amount that I got from liveaquaria and I ordered TWO portions from them!

rlswaney73's beautiful moss that I had just placed on some mopani. Notice the bright beautiful green color and posture of the flame moss.

supposed flamemoss from liveaquaria. I am not even sure this is flame moss. I'm going to have to wait until it starts growing before I properly identify it. Also, notice the slight yellowing and the picture doesn't show the dead brown portions of the moss that probably will not bounce back. I hid them in the back of the driftwood. And, this piece that I covered is about a third of the size of the piece that I used with swaney's moss.

I have also recently purchased some long finned albino BN plecos from beviking and I could not be happier with my purchase. I received 4 fish from beviking for the cost that two would cost me locally and this fish arrived in MUCH better shape.

So to all of you that share/sell with us here in the community I would like to thank you for making TPT an indispensable resource of not only knowledge but also flora and fauna that can't be rivaled by chain stores or LFS.

More updates later,
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