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|03-25-2015 08:51 PM|
Hotel travel shampoo bottle
Awesomely simple idea to build a drop checker. I am a big DIY fan and I am going to give this a shot. It suddenly occurred to me that the hotels keep these small travel size shampoo and mouthwash bottles which seem to be in the perfect size range so I took home one of those from my official trips.
They are however plastic and I was wondering if this will effect the test solution or the test itself. I feel it should not since you are using plastic tubing anyway. Any thoughts?
|12-01-2012 06:54 AM|
|supergreeneye||i will definitely give it a try thanks for the idea|
|03-26-2012 08:43 PM|
I like the fluval drop check. It seems to have a fairly low internal volume with a large water contact area:
It also comes with an all-in-one indicator solution for lazy people like me.
|03-26-2012 05:02 AM|
bump for a very useful thread.
I had a brand new airbrush bottle laying around and a few feet of 1 inch OD vinyl tubing. worked great. Just need some solution now.
|04-13-2011 04:32 AM|
Originally Posted by Traveller View Post
|04-13-2011 02:03 AM|
|NeocaridinaCollector||I'm going to be starting on this tomorrow as was wondering if you could use an old plastic medicine bottle.|
|04-11-2011 07:29 AM|
|btimmer92||The Chinese glass one works great for me. It changes about 4X faster than a DIY one I made..small amount of liquid, and volume, and a decent surface area-comparably. The small diameter at the top doesn't have an effect on the equilibrium speed. It's all about surface areas to liquid volume in the checker.|
|04-10-2011 12:38 AM|
|Hoppy||If you want the best configuration I have found, here it is: http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sw...-checkers.html There is a DIY thread about how to make it too.|
|04-09-2011 09:48 PM|
Originally Posted by larams67 View Post
|04-09-2011 07:25 PM|
Originally Posted by Loop View Post
The part I'm not sure about is the diameter of the section that connects the surface area chambers. It would seem to restrict the exchange of gases.
I don't see how the chinese made glass styles for instance would be any good. A big funnel reducing down to a pinhole at the bend before opening back up for the ph solution chamber can't be effective.
|04-09-2011 04:24 PM|
What if you made something shaped like this
Not sure what you would make it out of, maybe use something like petri dishes and some acrylic tube (the tube would be curved at the top, not square like in the pic). Keep the tubing as short and thin as possible to limit the volume of air. Imagine a more streamlined shape for a finished product. The white square inside the solution would be something that would take up some of the space to keep the solution volume low, but let you keep a large surface area on top of it. You would view it from the angle the red arrow is pointing so that you still had a decent size viewing area with a white background. The shallow squared off shape instead of a funnel should also give less volume of air inside.
Just an idea that I had trying to think of something that fit the criteria of high surface areas and low volumes.
|04-09-2011 10:46 AM|
OK, after looking at your drawing I understand the reason for the confusion. I was assuming that the aquarium water would rise up far enough that it was past the funnel and into the tubing (it's hard to see from the pictures). Obviously this would depend upon the height of the funnel and how far the drop checker was submerged. You are absolutely correct that using a funnel would increase the surface area and decrease the reaction time provided the interface between the trapped air and the tank water was within the funnel as opposed to farther up into the tubing. I apologize for not making my explanation more clear, and sorry if I caused a lot of confusion. Next time I'll try and figure out how to draw picture and include it in the post (worth a thousand words).
I also thought of how to utilize a fat, and hopefully short jar even if it has a large mouth. Provided the jar has a plastic lid that seals well, you could drill a hole the proper size for the tubing (a spade bit works well for this). With a plastic lid and plastic tubing, super glue makes a quick, convenient sealant. I use it for air tubing all the time and never had a leak. If the jar/bottle is too tall, you could try melting candle wax or paraffin and using it to fill the jar part way to decrease the volume of air it would hold. I don't think it would react with or absorb any CO2 (paraffin is used for home made jams and jellies and doesn't affect the taste).
|04-08-2011 11:28 PM|
Originally Posted by psalm18.2 View Post
|04-08-2011 11:26 PM|
Originally Posted by larams67 View Post
I was thinking that both would matter quite a bit. The way I was thinking is that you want CO2 from aquarium water to get to the ph solution. In order for this to happen it needs to get into the trapped air in the drop checker first, and a larger surface area would speed this up. The faster you can get CO2 into that trapped air, the faster CO2 can enter the ph solution, which you would also speed up by having a large surface area.
I do also see having the least amount of solution and air in there being beneficial. Seems like the lower volume of both, the faster it can reach an equal level of CO2 with the tank water.
I don't mean to sound argumentative about it, I'm just trying to understand the reasoning behind the ideas.
|04-08-2011 11:19 PM|
That's why the funnel shape is beneficial. The size of the air to DC liquid surface area is also important. The bigger, the better, but the lower the volume of liquid in the DC bulb, the better too.
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