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12-27-2012 03:53 AM
Diana Look in all the landscape, masonry, soils, brick... yards anywhere near you.
Many of the stones are shipped all over the USA, and the more unusual (read high priced) are shipped from all over the world.

The rock yards will call the rock by all sorts of different names.
You simply have to go see what they have. No use making phone calls, and do not ask for any rock by any name known in the aquarium trade.

Sometimes you will get a really knowledgeable person who can tell you some of the alternate names of a rock as it may be known in the landscape trade. You might use that name when calling some other store.

I do not know the geological origins of most of the rocks, but getting a sample to test is a good idea.
If you have traveled a ways and need to know right away you could carry with you some acid such as the API nitrate test. If I remember correctly bottle #1 is acid that is strong enough to react with limestone and related rock.
For rock yards that are closer you could bring some zip lock baggies with you and a Sharpie pen. Look on the ground around the rock and pick up some scraps. Label it with where you got the rock and what they call it. When you return home test with acid, and also put the bits into a jar of water and test GH, KH, pH and TDS after a few days.

The more specialized the store the more expensive the rock will be. A store that sells by the truck load may also sell by the bag or by the pound. A store that only sells by the pound will usually charge more per pound. Highly likely they just went to the same rock yard to get it.
12-26-2012 11:31 PM
Phusis_Eidos
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Any update on more findings? Im trying to find a place to source ADA like stones in NJ. The closes I have is Moss, rock or gray stone.
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12-17-2012 03:12 AM
Axelrodi202 Anyone have any information on maten-seki stone?
12-17-2012 02:30 AM
Phusis_Eidos
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Good job you are doing there guys.

Lol about a month back I did like 8 hours of research on these rare rocks. I came up with a lot of info.

Also a while back i talked with screename who was selling about 1000lbs of seiryu stones. He told me that he got all the stones from a neighbor where the rocks were just piled up and sitting there. The Neighbors husband unfortunately no longer with us and he was the one who went to China and got the stones and shipped about 10000 lbs back.

Also I have done a lot of research on Manten stone.

Unfortunately I don't think I have a lot of links to what I found. I will post what I have later on though to add to this.

Also Discus I would love to hear more about your findings.

Any update on more findings? Im trying to find a place to source ADA like stones in NJ. The closes I have is Moss, rock or gray stone.
09-05-2008 07:42 PM
thief Good job you are doing there guys.

Lol about a month back I did like 8 hours of research on these rare rocks. I came up with a lot of info.

Also a while back i talked with screename who was selling about 1000lbs of seiryu stones. He told me that he got all the stones from a neighbor where the rocks were just piled up and sitting there. The Neighbors husband unfortunately no longer with us and he was the one who went to China and got the stones and shipped about 10000 lbs back.

Also I have done a lot of research on Manten stone.

Unfortunately I don't think I have a lot of links to what I found. I will post what I have later on though to add to this.

Also Discus I would love to hear more about your findings.
09-01-2008 02:04 AM
windfish I visited the Dallas Bonsai warehouse a few weekends ago, before I left for school.

The guy there was totally unhelpful and even a bit of a jerk... they had some medium rocks that looked a lot like Seiryu stone, but they wanted 150.00-200.00 PER STONE, and they wouldn't let me touch them. I asked to see the black granite they listed on the website and they brought out something he called "whisky rock". I don't even think it was a natural rock... very ugly stuff.
08-23-2008 06:52 AM
MedRed i'll go to my bonsai places this weekend and see what's up. limestone would make sense since it hardens the water. I orginally thought these rocks were sedimentary which would fit. I'll know for sure once i get my hands on some. I'm quite the geologist!
08-23-2008 05:02 AM
wickedj Im relatively new to the planted aquariums and i was wondering what type of rocks are safe to use in an aquarium? What to look for?
08-23-2008 04:40 AM
Left C The site that DiscusIt'sWhats4DinneR linked ( http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3Doff%26sa%3DN ? ) has some amazing great looking rocks. A few have calcite or limestone, but there are still many different rocks to pick through. They are beautiful!

About 70 miles from me is a huge deposit of light green rocks. I don't remember what they are called now. They are near Badin Lake, NC. I believe that they would look very good in some aquariums. There are also many granite and aluminuim quarries in that same region.

The first gold strike in the US was discovered about 15 miles away in Concord, N.C. — In 1799, a 12-year-old boy playing along Little Meadow Creek when he should have been in church found a 17-pound rock, which served as a doorstop in his family's home until it was identified as gold in 1802 — the first documented discovery of gold in the new United States. Here are some more info:
http://statelibrary.dcr.state.nc.us/nc/ncsites/gold.htm
http://www.ncmuseumofhistory.org/col....gold.rush.pdf
08-23-2008 04:05 AM
skoorbza Hope you are successful, Discus. If not, I would try asking local professionals (as you did at the Bonsai place). Fish clubs, landscapers, artisans, anyone else like that you can think of might give you some ideas of where to look in the area.
08-23-2008 02:16 AM
DiscusIt'sWhats4DinneR check it;
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3Doff%26sa%3DN


this one too.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3Doff%26sa%3DN

interesting..there are a lot of rocks that look similar although formed a bit differently.

while at the bonsai place i asked if there was anywhere else similar stones could be found. he told me of a place on the edge of town with all sorts of funky decorative rock. i will go there soon and see what i can come up with.
08-23-2008 02:05 AM
DiscusIt'sWhats4DinneR today i went to Nee Hai Bonsai.

it was an interesting place, those bonsai trees are neat stuff.

anyway, they had a small assortment of ying tak penjin stones.
maybe i was wrong, perhaps it isn't a granite. i now believe the seiryu stone to be a limestone of this type. it was a dark charcoal gray with the white veins.
some were bonded together with concrete to form sort of skyscraper shaped stalagtite looking things. i was told that these are hand formed in china.

there was one rock garden display there, about 4'x4' that looked like a "dry iwagumi." with the stones. and some light green mossy ground cover plant. the stones were tall, jagged and narrow. some were almost 2 feet tall and about 8 inches around.

very neat. now at least i have a better idea of what i am trying to look for.
the bonsai place only had stones that were bonded with concrete, i want the raw stones with no concrete. so i will try to find some elsewhere.
08-22-2008 04:16 PM
MedRed bingo discus... the mystery is cracked. here's a link to some rock in dallas

http://www.dallasbonsai.com/store/decorative_rocks.html

I'll also go and visit my local bonsai stores and see what I can come up with.
08-22-2008 04:08 PM
MedRed granite would also make sense... i said sedimentary because of the rocks ability to raise the ph... but granite can have a lot of feldspar in it which has calcium.
08-22-2008 11:11 AM
DiscusIt'sWhats4DinneR after hours of research of rocks and zen and bonsai gardens, learning to read in japanese i have concluded that this ADA seiryu stone is some sort of black granite.

i found another place locally that deals in bonsai garden stuff, i might go there and check it out.
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