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11-21-2013 06:47 PM
gSTiTcH Is there a chance, since you said Auto Update was disabled, that you're experiencing a stop error (Blue Screen of Death) during the night? You can check your system event log to see if there are any "error" entries. Drivers and hardware faults can cause all sorts of funky things.
11-21-2013 03:03 PM
mistergreen Upgrading would also wreck apps that they built too or wreck their whole network built with yarn and duct-tape.
Laziness could be a reason too

Oh, IE8 come installed with windows 7 btw. If you deinstall IE9+ on windows 7, the default browser is IE8.
11-21-2013 05:28 AM
GraphicGr8s
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Originally Posted by DarkCobra View Post
I hope the OP doesn't mind a friendly side debate.



I can certainly appreciate that. But I don't think that's as big a reason. If it were, then for those corporations that support mixed OS versions, I'd expect that many machines purchased at the time when Vista was pre-installed would still be using Vista. For those that prefer to be homogenous, many that rolled out Vista would also still be using it. That should result in a smoother distribution, rather than the shrinkingly small Vista usage compared to versions on either side of it. Vista machines, in particular, were upgraded as soon as possible - even preferentially over XP. Which suggests that quality of an OS is more important.

Also, I have an application used by a few dozen corporations. That may be a relatively small sample set, but as far as I know they dropped XP years ago. They're all running Win7 now. Working in corporate IT, you get flak if you upgrade too often, but you get more if you upgrade too infrequently. At this point I just can't imagine so many XP holdouts existing in the corporate world.

But I could be wrong.
I think you'll find it's the small to mid sized companies that just can't afford to upgrade right now. Other companies I talk to are still running XP for that reason. M-O-N-E-Y.
11-21-2013 04:27 AM
DarkCobra I hope the OP doesn't mind a friendly side debate.

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Corporations don't like to update their systems is another reason.
I can certainly appreciate that. But I don't think that's as big a reason. If it were, then for those corporations that support mixed OS versions, I'd expect that many machines purchased at the time when Vista was pre-installed would still be using Vista. For those that prefer to be homogenous, many that rolled out Vista would also still be using it. That should result in a smoother distribution, rather than the shrinkingly small Vista usage compared to versions on either side of it. Vista machines, in particular, were upgraded as soon as possible - even preferentially over XP. Which suggests that quality of an OS is more important.

Also, I have an application used by a few dozen corporations. That may be a relatively small sample set, but as far as I know they dropped XP years ago. They're all running Win7 now. Working in corporate IT, you get flak if you upgrade too often, but you get more if you upgrade too infrequently. At this point I just can't imagine so many XP holdouts existing in the corporate world.

But I could be wrong.
11-21-2013 04:11 AM
GraphicGr8s All of my machines still have XP on them both home and at work. (6 at home 3 at work) I've got one that's dual boot XP and 7. Haven't had any real trouble with 7 though.
Hate Macs and i am a graphic designer. PC's just allow me to access my print servers a lot easier. Most of the front ends are Windows machines.

I never allow my systems to hibernate. They are all shut down when I am done.
11-20-2013 10:32 PM
Bandit1200 Windows sleep mode is not a powered off situation. It powers down only certain parts of your machine. To get a truly powered off option while getting quicker "back up" times use the hibernate function instead of sleep. When you hibernate, windows will save everything in your RAM to your hard drive and power down completely. When you power on again, it copies everything from the hard drive back to your RAM so that you start exactly where you left off.
11-20-2013 09:50 PM
mistergreen
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Originally Posted by DarkCobra View Post
Here's why:



Quite a few people think XP was the last sane version of Windows and are holding onto it until the bitter end. Including me, at least for personal use. And IE8 is the last version that works with XP.

Although that still doesn't explain why they haven't switched to Chrome or Firefox.
Corporations don't like to update their systems is another reason.
11-20-2013 08:44 PM
drewsuf82
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Originally Posted by shinycard255 View Post
HA. The main reason I don't use Windows is due to my career, but ever since I made the switch over to OS X, I don't ever plan on going back... unless I decide to get a gaming PC

That was the propose of this computer....well and some homework lol it's a sick setup though
11-20-2013 07:43 PM
DarkCobra
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Originally Posted by mistergreen View Post
I use windows to test sites on IE8. Some Windows people still use it. They don't update for some reason.
Here's why:



Quite a few people think XP was the last sane version of Windows and are holding onto it until the bitter end. Including me, at least for personal use. And IE8 is the last version that works with XP.

Although that still doesn't explain why they haven't switched to Chrome or Firefox.
11-20-2013 07:22 PM
mistergreen I use windows to test sites on IE8. Some Windows people still use it. They don't update for some reason.

Updates on OS X is so much easier and safer than Windows for sure.
I'd just turn off your laptop instead of putting it to sleep.
11-20-2013 07:07 PM
DarkCobra The lost document may have been due to a critical update, which reboots the computer if you fail to respond to a timed prompt.

It's one of many truly horrible design decisions Microsoft has been making lately, and is one of the first behaviors I disable. Details here under "Most Helpful Answer":

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...5-89e427756ccc

Less drastic than disabling updates altogether. Won't help with the sleep issue, but the other responses you've received should.
11-20-2013 07:01 PM
shinycard255
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Disable windows
HA. The main reason I don't use Windows is due to my career, but ever since I made the switch over to OS X, I don't ever plan on going back... unless I decide to get a gaming PC
11-20-2013 06:33 PM
Couesfanatic Disable windows
11-20-2013 06:03 PM
dmagerl Go into device manager and examine each and every device in the list for a "Power" tab. If they have one, go to it and uncheck the checkbox that says "allow this device to wake up computer". That may allow it to go back to sleep. Of course, if you're used to waking the computer by hitting a key or moving the mouse, obviously you cant leave the keyboard or mouse disabled so this would be for testing only.
11-20-2013 05:18 PM
drewsuf82 Keyboard and mouse are wired, and the auto update was disabled, I'll check that when I get home to see what it's doing
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