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Yesterday 03:15 PM
Joost Hey,

First of all I have to say that you´ve had great succes with the 23 Watt CFL´s. Your aquarium really looks good.

A friend of mine is about to start an aquarium that holds 54 litres. The dimensions are 60 cm x 30 cm x 30 cm. He also owns two IKEA TERTIAL desk lamps and is wondering how many watts he should use. He will be using pressurized CO2, ADA aqua soil and fertilization according to the EI method. Would you recommend to use 23 Watt CFL´s as well? Or perhaps less? The reason he would like to use CFL's is because they're extremely cheap and seem to work well according to this thread. I'd love to help him out with this.

I look forward to your response.
09-11-2014 12:27 AM
FlyingHellFish Videos I found, should of recorded more

Old youtube video of me trimming the carpet.


ADA 60P overview
08-27-2014 03:48 AM
mistuhmarc To be able to control the LEDs from your computer or phone would be great. I'm sure it'd be expensive for software like that, but heck, it'd be pretty creative and useful.
08-26-2014 05:47 AM
Xzavier247 This tank is amazing!
08-26-2014 12:57 AM
Originally Posted by talontsiawd View Post

I do look forward to hearing your reviews. I do now have two LED fixtures but you are one of the few using multiple types of LED fixtures that have the features I would need to replace/upgrade any non LED fixture (only one now). Most LED fixtures people are using are good, I just bought a Sat + for a new fixture on a new tank and it's cool, but what you are using (and you have more LED experience than most) may actually be what I need to really embrace the technology on a higher level.
That is a good choice, I'm loving where LED technology is heading and I feel the merit of the fixture should be place on other things beside "full spectrum", such as

How cool would it be to control our light fixture from the net?

How cool would it be to add a "increase red spectrum during x minutes" once our tank has mature?

What about a higher red spectrum on the left side for your Rotala and a higher blue for your HC Cuba?

The hobby has already proven you don't need LEDs to grow plants but I'm sure thinking LEDs would make it much simpler.

Embrace change! ADA has their AquaSky out for a while, I'm certain that they will release another model, a full(er) spectrum model with something better than on/off control.
08-24-2014 03:46 PM
talontsiawd Yo, dawg, I feels you on the spectrum ish. I was telling this fool that I have been growing plants with normal CFL's, never paying more than like $2 for them.

LED's can be a bit different in the fact the spectrum of a single color LED may be much narrower, but in general, I still believe that output effects color at a much higher level than anything else. I think spectrum should be viewed as something to improve the appearance of coloration within plants, rather than something to improve the coloration of the plants.

I do look forward to hearing your reviews. I do now have two LED fixtures but you are one of the few using multiple types of LED fixtures that have the features I would need to replace/upgrade any non LED fixture (only one now). Most LED fixtures people are using are good, I just bought a Sat + for a new fixture on a new tank and it's cool, but what you are using (and you have more LED experience than most) may actually be what I need to really embrace the technology on a higher level.
08-24-2014 02:59 PM
FlyingHellFish I'll totally ship these! I toss them in the trash anyways because the growth is mind blowing. Rotala Round grows twice as fast in air, at least in my experience. The Lugwiga Brevip or whatever it is, grows only green in air, it's beautiful regardless.

Heres the tank before the big tear down, I got more pics on the process but for now, feast yer eyes on thee Rotala (Lugwiga) Brevip.


I honestly thought no fertilizers and no Co2 in the tank would turn it into complete trash and I would have to redo the tank faster. It's just chugging along, I been harvesting the top growth and placing them in bins with soil. I ran out of bins.

Here a quick video on the growth,

YT- My YouTube vid - click here

And a request for the close up of the MicMol Led -

Aqua Illumination 26 vs --------------------------------- EcoTech vs --------------------------------- MicMol AquaPro - Plant

It's the same Cree XT, Orsam LEDs found in other high end LED fixtures. LED fixtures are a lot like LCD,LED Tv, there is only a handful of "panel" markers yet there are several brands.

To compare the actual product, you don't say "Samsung" vs "Sony" or "LED" vs "LCD", you compare the panel -


Each will have their own pros and cons for their respective markets such as movies, graphic design, gaming.

You can do the same for light fixtures, such as

LED (Surface mount vs single)

So when someone says, "yo this fixture be the best dwag"

Show me a tank, don't show me a graph.
There no magical special spectrum, if you have a light that does full spectrum with the ability to control each channel, you got whatever spectrum the other guy has.

"yo dwag, tank needs more blue spectrum"
Raise the blue
"yo dwag, tank be needing more red spectrum:
Raise the red

Ask yourself, how were people ever able to grow lust tanks before LEDs? Don't get me wrong, I love full spectrum because it's great, but my kitchen Phillips 23W CFL were pretty damn great too.

An easy way to determine a general idea of how good the fixture will perform, is to search for tanks using the light and seeing the results for yourself.
08-20-2014 09:20 PM
talontsiawd Your last picture makes it look like you learned about planted tanks from fellow member OVT haha. That's cool you to test out those LEDs. I think more cluster type LED's need to make it into the freshwater world. They do look like they are made by Apple though. The vase/wine glass is awesome.
08-20-2014 06:24 PM
AquaAurora If it wasn't summer right now I'd ask you to sell em some of your leftover emersed clippings, but I worry the weather would make them arrive as mush.. must wait till fall :c
lovely growth btw.
08-20-2014 02:02 PM
Hendy8888 That's awesome you get to test run these fixtures. Your box of plants made me laugh when I saw the picture of it overflowing. Great job all around.
08-20-2014 04:23 AM
FlyingHellFish Way overdue for a trim, but I'm getting such nice emmersed growth for my wabi-kusa that I want to wait till I get a new tank and some more wabi-kusa pots. I'm getting faster growth from my tank than the soil planted containers.

I think some aquatic plants do best in half/half, I never get the same type of growth with pure soil compare to water/soil (AquaSoil), I'm going to try to experiment a bit more.



PS - They made me the LED array I thought was best for plants but I should of removed the purple LED, it's really strong even when there is only one. Of course you can just turn down the purple channel, c'est la vie!
08-20-2014 03:29 AM
AnotherHobby Maybe time for a trim?
08-20-2014 03:27 AM
FlyingHellFish No Co2, No water change, No fertilizers, just algae wafer for Otos and Shrimps....

It's thriving....

The stems that pop out of the water, are healthy all the way down BUT, some of the lower leafs are missing because of the lack of light. The Cherry shrimps are still breeding, the Otos are still fat, and I'm way behind in redoing this tank.



I'm beta-testing another fixture, well two fixtures to be exact, an Aqua Pro and an Aqua Mini. They liked what I did with the reef lights and are thinking of venturing into the planted hobby. The two lights are basically the same reef lights but with a led array that is more ideal for plants.

I wanted to release this info exclusively to the 60P club but I'm not sure if I'm going to put this on a the 60P.
08-14-2014 09:12 PM
talontsiawd Where is this tank at these days?
07-03-2014 08:33 AM
Originally Posted by AquaAurora View Post
Did/are you selling or replanting the emersed grown tops of your plants?
I didn't know people wanted the emmersed growth, pm me for them. I usually just toss them in the trash.

I'm going to miss the emmersed carpet of plants, I was falling in love with it. And apologies for the lack of updates, I have to find some genuine ADD stones or at the very *least* stones labelled correctly.

Edit* Alright, going to do a iwagumi update soon, loving the remote...ohhh goodness.
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