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03-23-2015 01:54 AM
dswiese Just trying this tonight. only had 6 tbls for a 55g. will post results. also dosed excel at initial dose rate, post water change
03-21-2015 11:11 PM
rawlins06 Just did 1.5 tbsp per 10 gallon on my 20l, 30min later did a 25% water change. There is a lot of pearling and my fish and snails seem fine.
03-17-2015 10:23 PM
DayOlder I have two tanks both of which I do 25% WC on every Sunday. I alternate which tank I start first and add 2TBSP/ 10 gal of H2O2 to the other tank, also turning off the filter and on the power head. By the time I have the first tank done the second tank is ready for the WC. This way it takes me no additional time and each tank is treated every other week. Since I have started doing this I have quit treating daily with excel, in fact I have not used excel at all and both tanks have remained algae free. I have had no loss of livestock or plants although my octocinclus do not seem to like it. I started this after doing the 1-2.
03-17-2015 09:44 PM
mot
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Mot is that quote right.? I've only been using 4Tbsp per 10 gal.
Holy smokes no. 4tbsp per 10 gallons. Yikes...fixed above as well.


Thanks for the catch.
03-17-2015 07:17 PM
DayOlder
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I used the 4Tbsp per gallon of H2O2.
Mot is that quote right.? I've only been using 4Tbsp per 10 gal.
03-17-2015 03:28 PM
mot Wanted to chime in that this procedure worked for me as well. I used the 4Tbsp per 10 gallons of H2O2. I removed the fish (5 oto's) and the biomedia from the cannister. Added the H2O2 ran the pumps for 45 minutes. Did a 80% water change. Added the recommended initial dosage of Excel. Let the tank run for about an hour and then added the biomedia and fish back to the tank.

Why did I do it? I had a filamentous algae outbreak after a rescape three weeks ago. The tank had three types, a little bit of staghorn, Long stringy brown algae maybe filamentous diatoms (not sure never ran into this before) and a green thread algae that was growing about 4 inches a day in the high flow areas.

Pretty sure it was all due to disturbing the soil where the Osmocote Root tabs were placed only a couple weeks earlier. Of course I completely forgot about them as I was happily changing the slope.

Here is my observations after the treatment
Same Day:
Almost all algae looked unhealthy by the end of the day. Most of the staghorn turned pink. Brown algae turned grey. Green algae looked a darker green.
Next Day: All staghorn was pink, Brown algae now grey and melting...maybe only 50% of it left. Green hair algae now grey and visibly less of it.
3rd Day: Staghorn is now melting, Brown algae is almost gone...only whitish fuzz left where it was thickest. Green hair algae now grey and about 75% of it is melted.
4th Day: Very little algae left. Anything visible is a grey or white color and looks dead.

Fish: no issues - taking them out I didnt expect any
Plants: Mini Pellia was burnt pretty bad. May lose it but the Flame and willow Moss look fine, Java Fern roots are missing the fine fuzzy appearance when they are healthy. But they were covered in the brown algae so not sure if they were already damaged. No other plants show any negative signs of the treatment.

Plant list: Staurogyne repens, cyperus helferi, Java Ferns, Anubias Nana, varied species of Bucephelendara, HC, Rotala Colorata, AR mini, Crypt Balansae, mini pellia, flame moss, willow moss
03-15-2015 10:13 PM
Roughrider Update on my nuking this past Tuesday. My BBA is dead and the SAE's are cleaning house on the red stuff. My black fuzz algae is dead and even the oto's are munching away. No dead loss at all. I'll admit though, at about 12 minutes in my old yellow molly was acting stressed.

I was able to pull three of the 4 oto's before the process. All four are doing fine.

Turned off and pulled my cannister for cleaning and used .45 cups (just under half) of 3% H202 and then followed up with a 50% water change and immediately hit the tank with 16ml of Excel.

Two days later I lost my runt Angel that had not been eating for a few days prior - think the stress of the whole process finally finished her off. It could have been that I beat her up during the washing machine/cyclone effect as well... I don't know.

My water quality has remained solid at:
6.8 ph (tested during mid-day c02 injection)
0 ammonia
0 Nitrites
20 Nitrates
03-13-2015 04:36 PM
Rainer I didn't know about that. Thanks for the warning.
03-13-2015 04:30 PM
vvDO
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I have a 10g with 7 micro rasboras as the only inhabitants. Should I bother removing the biofilter? The bottom is mostly covered in fern and anubias and there are some trimmings floating.

I would suggest temporarily moving your fish... Micro rasboras are very sensitive IMHO.


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03-13-2015 01:54 AM
FatherLandDescendant
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I have a 10g with 7 micro rasboras as the only inhabitants. Should I bother removing the biofilter? The bottom is mostly covered in fern and anubias and there are some trimmings floating.
I would take it out lest you kill your BB.
03-13-2015 12:43 AM
Rainer I have a 10g with 7 micro rasboras as the only inhabitants. Should I bother removing the biofilter? The bottom is mostly covered in fern and anubias and there are some trimmings floating.
03-10-2015 07:33 PM
Roughrider
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Going to hit my 40g breeder today - I've been battling a BBA issue in this tank due to a huge imbalance quite a few months ago. I've staggered its growth and spread quite a bit - but what's there currently has been a struggle for quite a few months. It laughs at excel and co2 and bounces back after h202 spot treatments in the areas effected. My SAE's can't seem to chew through it.

My plants are growing like crazy needing big trims every week due to high c02 and a strict fert regiment. Two months ago I popped in a baby amazon sword from a mother plant that resides in my 20g long, and its taken over 1/3rd of the tank like a bush. Adjusting light, C02 and ferts over the course of a few months have given me the upper hand in order to stop the BBA rampant growth, but now its time to hopefully knock it out.

I do have 4 oto's in here - its heavily planted, so its going to be nearly impossible to hospitalize them before treatment - so lets keep our fingers crossed.

I'll update in three or four days and let everyone know how it went. Going to grab some before treatment pics now.
Caught 3 otos, 2 powerheads, an 800 gph pump, big old airflow, shut off c02 - and I think I'm ready...

Update: Nuked it yesterday - fish are all ok (oto's included) and have the beginnings of browning up of my BBA. A few snails on the glass as well today. The most stressful part for my critters seemed to be the washing machine that I turned my tank into during the process.
03-10-2015 05:19 PM
FatherLandDescendant
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Originally Posted by Roughrider View Post
Going to hit my 40g breeder today - I've been battling a BBA issue in this tank due to a huge imbalance quite a few months ago. I've staggered its growth and spread quite a bit - but what's there currently has been a struggle for quite a few months. It laughs at excel and co2 and bounces back after h202 spot treatments in the areas effected. My SAE's can't seem to chew through it.

My plants are growing like crazy needing big trims every week due to high c02 and a strict fert regiment. Two months ago I popped in a baby amazon sword from a mother plant that resides in my 20g long, and its taken over 1/3rd of the tank like a bush. Adjusting light, C02 and ferts over the course of a few months have given me the upper hand in order to stop the BBA rampant growth, but now its time to hopefully knock it out.

I do have 4 oto's in here - its heavily planted, so its going to be nearly impossible to hospitalize them before treatment - so lets keep our fingers crossed.

I'll update in three or four days and let everyone know how it went. Going to grab some before treatment pics now.
My oto has been in my 40b about 9 months and he survived the treatment this past weekend. I did loose 1 neon and 1 glow light tetra, they died shortly after terminating the treatment with no signs of distress.
03-10-2015 05:14 PM
Roughrider Going to hit my 40g breeder today - I've been battling a BBA issue in this tank due to a huge imbalance quite a few months ago. I've staggered its growth and spread quite a bit - but what's there currently has been a struggle for quite a few months. It laughs at excel and co2 and bounces back after h202 spot treatments in the areas effected. My SAE's can't seem to chew through it.

My plants are growing like crazy needing big trims every week due to high c02 and a strict fert regiment. Two months ago I popped in a baby amazon sword from a mother plant that resides in my 20g long, and its taken over 1/3rd of the tank like a bush. Adjusting light, C02 and ferts over the course of a few months have given me the upper hand in order to stop the BBA rampant growth, but now its time to hopefully knock it out.

I do have 4 oto's in here - its heavily planted, so its going to be nearly impossible to hospitalize them before treatment - so lets keep our fingers crossed.

I'll update in three or four days and let everyone know how it went. Going to grab some before treatment pics now.
03-06-2015 02:00 AM
RedIrocZ-28 I did a test using only H2O2 on a few chunks of HC that broke off when I was doing manual removal of some hair algae from my HC patch. I took a capful of H2O2 and diluted it in to about 2 cups of water. I threw the strands of HC into the mix and let them sit for 24 hours. Today I went to inspect the progress, and the algae had turned from black to orange/brown. I'm certain it is dead or dying so i am considering removing all 19 fish in my 60gal cube and overdosing the hell out of the main tank with H2O2 and I will probably dose with Excel right after. I'm growing a nice carpet of HC without Co2 and with 2wpg lighting, and the algae is an absolute eyesore.

Thanks for the thread, OP, if you're still around these days. You've helped a lot of people.
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