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|05-03-2016 02:06 AM|
|MCSLABS||Attachment 626882I did something a tad different. Built a box, 10 " x 29 " x 4.5 ", lined it with foil and foil tape, added ventilation and 8, T2, 6500k, 1600 lumens philips cfl bulbs lying horizontally. The tank is doing wonderful right now, everything is beginning to green up and I'm seeing new leaf growth. I replaced a single aqeuon 24 inch bulb, way to dark.|
|05-03-2016 12:39 AM|
Just to show that you can indeed use CFLs to grow plants without anything fancy besides the domes.... here is my one good planted tank with basic 10 inch domes with 4x 23W 6500K CFLs.... 26 inches from the bottom of bulb to the sand
Yes I know I need to re-arrange the plants but that will come with time. I am just working on the right lighting to make sure minimal algae as you can see I still have some.
I am just thrilled I got this tank blossoming the way it is so to say.
|05-01-2016 03:54 PM|
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|04-30-2016 09:34 PM|
Originally Posted by non quixote View Post
|04-30-2016 01:39 AM|
|non quixote||Just setting up a 15 gallon hex tank and even though the thread is really old I wanted to say bravo for all of the ideas in it regarding lighting on the cheap! I've run salts for the last 20 years or so (but no longer) and this will be my first attempt at a FW planted tank. Lots of things to learn about FW and I was having a difficult time finding a light that I could live with. I'm planning on easing into this and I didn't want to go blowing a wad of cash on a hobby that I may not wind up enjoying (enough to spend a wad of cash on!) The bulb that I decided on, if anyone is interested, is a 6500K 2800 lumen CFL. Don't know what the result will be, but I'm sure it will be fun finding out!|
|04-14-2016 07:00 PM|
It gives you an option to go with LED lighting.
|04-14-2016 02:18 AM|
Thank you & Sharing!
I just wanted to share my experience in order to possibly help anyone out there considering options. My issue was not cost so much as less common dimensions to deal with. I have a column tank that is only 13x13 wide but 24" tall (less with substrate). With the height you can't really get away with much as far as plants using the typical .5 LED fixtures. I'd considered using a square saltwater LED light with 3 watt leds but couldn't find one that was exactly what I wanted. I use a cfl in one side of my planted turtle tank so that led me here to this thread. Anyways, this is by the bed and I wanted black domes- did not want to worry about painting. I also wanted adjustability so I ended up with 2 clamp on desk lamps from Walmart. I'm using 23 watt CFL bulbs from Lowe's. "Sylvania 6500k mini instant on" It's been about 6 weeks and everything is going great! I'm adding a couple photos for reference. I do move them around once a day on days I'm here. I've only had a teeny bit of algae on my moss only on the old growth after adding it but that has gone now after trimming . Hope this might help someone out there!
PS. I just moved plants around in the full tank photo so it's still foggy from that.
|04-14-2016 12:19 AM|
Originally Posted by burr740 View Post
|04-10-2016 06:31 PM|
Very interesting thread...
So, I just acquired a 55g that I'll be setting up. I want it to be a planted tank without having to do co2. If I do the clamp on lights, how many should I use, and what size CFL? What about going with some of the new LED bulbs?
|03-31-2016 06:39 PM|
|Annie101||Thank you AWolf and burr740 for all your recommendations, i'll do a little bit more research on the plants and decide later on, I still haven't set up the aquarium but at least i was able to find help and find cheap lights compared to the ones i saw on the internet, thank you again so much *-*!!|
|03-31-2016 05:57 PM|
If you used say, two 10" domes, it's going to be very bright underneath each bulb, but much dimmer in the middle between them, and on each end of the tank.
At roughly 20" above the substrate, 23 watt bulbs are going to push 100 PAR directly underneath. This will definitely require CO2. 13 watt bulbs would be much more manageable, and you may get by with only a liquid carbon supplement like Excel, etc.
Reflectors make a big difference. All of the above assumes we are talking about using this type of fixture
|03-31-2016 05:39 PM|
[QUOTE=Annie101;9080753]Thank you again i am going to take your advise about making it work with 2 or 3 three lights and another question has popped up in my mind; by being good with plants and ferts? what do you mean if you can explain it to me P.s what do you think of these bowls for reflectors? (lol): BLANDA BLANK Serving bowl - 5 " - IKEA
Those bowls should get the job done. If you are just starting out, like most people, you only have a few plants. So liquid ferts once a week and basic lighting starts you off well. As your plants grow, or you add plants, and it become more dense, you need to add ferts and possibly lower the light closer to get to thicker underbrush, which at the same time may cause algae issues. It's inevitable you will have algae. How much, and what type depend on water parameters and light/ferts. Every tank is different, so it's not one size fits all. You have to adjust, adjust, as the weeks go on. Increase or decrease light, increase or decrease ferts, increase or decrease water changes, etc. You want good growth with as little algae as possible. That comes with experience with your tank. All my tanks have green algae on surfaces that I clean up monthly by scrubbing off tank and stuff, getting it in the water column, and sucking it up with an external diatom filter. It is different than potted plants that you just water once a week, and add fertilizer occasionally. Once you get good at it, then it becomes easier to keep things growing well without big algae blooms. Big blooms mean something is off; too much/little light, too much/little fertilizer, swings in pH and other water chemistry issues, etc....You have to keep it 'in between the lines' so to speak.
|03-31-2016 04:35 PM|
Thank you again i am going to take your advise about making it work with 2 or 3 three lights and another question has popped up in my mind; by being good with plants and ferts? what do you mean if you can explain it to me P.s what do you think of these bowls for reflectors? (lol): BLANDA BLANK Serving bowl - 5 " - IKEA
Bump: burr740 So you would recommend 13w instead of 23w and if i have a 29g standard tank that you can buy from petco how many bulbs and would i need and i would still need a co2 system or liquid will be just fine?
|03-31-2016 04:31 PM|
That will be directly underneath each light. Dead center, between the two will be considerably less.
To get the most even coverage, I'd go with three 8 1/2" diameter domes. This is a common size available at Lowes/Home Depot, etc.
Then you may want to consider going down to 13 watt bulbs, at least in the beginning. You'd still have solid med-range light, enough for most any plant and a whole lot easier to deal with.
It is a lot simpler to increase the intensity down the road than to decrease it, because usually there is an algae farm by the time you realize that you have too much.
|03-31-2016 04:21 PM|
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