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03-06-2011 01:17 AM
Dave-H A lot of those stores had worse conditions than the big box stores ever have. Let's not romanticize those old mom and pop stores too much - some of them were pretty awful
03-05-2011 11:34 PM
3x100cart
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Originally Posted by shawnhu View Post
I came back to this hobby after a 15 year break, and wonder where all the LFS has gone, only to be replaced by Petsmart and Petco everywhere.
Think we need a moment of silence for all those lost stores.
02-24-2011 03:32 AM
!shadow! lf l ever buy another fixture i'm going to go with catalina's leds. I like it when a company is willing to try new things and branch out with new ideas(t5's with led's). l'm just waiting for the right fixture for plant growth and decent looking to come out(something like the ada solar series). So far 6.5 and 8k seem to be my favorite. Ecoxotic has the 8k which i'm very happy about but no fixture just modules. They are pricey for 100$ each but if you got the money and buy enough it's going to be a very nice fixture. Currently i'm using 3 shimmer modules on a 2.5g to grow hc and it's doing very nice. l didn't see any 36" of this version:
http://www.catalinaaquarium.com/stor...oducts_id=1809
but i'm pretty sure he could make it custom made for me.
This fixture is another one I liked:
http://www.catalinaaquarium.com/stor...oducts_id=1633
Too bad l can't read german or this one would be interesting to get:
http://giesemann.de/267,1,,.html

lucky germans...
02-23-2011 11:21 PM
Dave-H What kind of price range are we talking about for the Catalina custom LEDs? I'm just curious what kind of ball-park it would be to make a triangular LED setup for a corner tank - 54 gallons looking for good medium light. Could you take a guess?
02-23-2011 11:18 PM
plantbrain
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Originally Posted by dhavoc View Post
i have both the double bright and the new reef capable one. i got them to test on low light tanks. they are ok for that use, however, the whites are 10k but tend to wash out colors, and the blue are plain useless for planted tanks. you get major spot light effects with the reef capable one as well. it would be an easy engineering fix to modify the fixture with combo 10k and 6.5k whites for fw sales.

I would love to try CA led fixtures if they are designed for fw planted tanks. all the mass produced fixtures i have seen so far are salty oriented and not very good for our market (not a DIY guy, so making my own is out of the question). i have many of their t5ho fixtures so the quality and customer service is there. cant wait.
Jim called me the couple of days ago and I just got the PAR meter back, so off it'll go for him to test with it.

He made 2 hoods for planted tanks, his are 6.5K I believe, they had nice color at the shop, but till you see it and use it yourself, hard to tell if you/plants will like the color.

I might have him make a nice retro system all mounted on a custom piece of metal I might have made.

Then add a custom transformer dimmable driver for each of the 3 color types, red, white and blue. This should give me the ultimate lighting for the tank, aesthetics to boot, and high efficiency.
02-23-2011 11:15 PM
plantbrain
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Originally Posted by shawnhu View Post
Tom, don't be mistaken, I'm with you 100%. I was just amazed that Marineland got on the ball with LED fixtures, and is probably one of the first for the aquarium hobby. But their over-priced fixture, and low lumen output is not nearly sufficient for most of our planted needs.

I came back to this hobby after a 15 year break, and wonder where all the LFS has gone, only to be replaced by Petsmart and Petco everywhere.
Yes, they finally did, as have many others, this should drive the cost down for the rest of us, much like PC and T5 lights has over the last decade.

Real $$$$ at first, then later....much less.
02-23-2011 06:51 AM
dhavoc i have both the double bright and the new reef capable one. i got them to test on low light tanks. they are ok for that use, however, the whites are 10k but tend to wash out colors, and the blue are plain useless for planted tanks. you get major spot light effects with the reef capable one as well. it would be an easy engineering fix to modify the fixture with combo 10k and 6.5k whites for fw sales.

I would love to try CA led fixtures if they are designed for fw planted tanks. all the mass produced fixtures i have seen so far are salty oriented and not very good for our market (not a DIY guy, so making my own is out of the question). i have many of their t5ho fixtures so the quality and customer service is there. cant wait.
02-22-2011 09:56 PM
shawnhu
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Originally Posted by plantbrain View Post
They use those 1 watt lights, not the 3 w Cree. Catalina is a small business, much like Ideal needle valve, or our LFS's.......I would rather give them a plug for helping us specifically. Same with SeaChem who also came in and helped a lot in the past even though we often think of them as some large corporation, they really are not. Greg, CEO/Prez is very open and helpful. Would the CEO of Petsmart converse with me personally for product development and be as responsive?

Jim was nice and offered freebies for the local club etc.
I have no issues helping out such folks. Petsmart?
Nope, they and other large chains have killed off a few LFS's, without helping the hobby with knowledge or local clubs.

Maybe I'm more a farmer's market type of guy.
Buy local, stay local etc. But larger does not have to be worse also, if done right.
Tom, don't be mistaken, I'm with you 100%. I was just amazed that Marineland got on the ball with LED fixtures, and is probably one of the first for the aquarium hobby. But their over-priced fixture, and low lumen output is not nearly sufficient for most of our planted needs.

I came back to this hobby after a 15 year break, and wonder where all the LFS has gone, only to be replaced by Petsmart and Petco everywhere.
02-22-2011 09:53 PM
shawnhu
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Originally Posted by plantbrain View Post
Jim from Catalina called me and has built the LED's specific for planted tanks, we just need to measure the PAR and then we will post the data.
Although I've never purchased a Catalina product, I'm excited to see that they are buidling LED lighting for planted folks.
02-22-2011 05:08 PM
houseofcards
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Originally Posted by Dave-H View Post
It was risk free to you, too.
What do you expect from a huge company like that?
1. I'm agreeing with Mr. Barr.
2. How do you know it was risk free to me. Did you see what I signed?
02-22-2011 04:55 PM
Dave-H
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Originally Posted by houseofcards View Post
Probably NOT. I once proposed something to Petsmart corporate that was vey planted aquaria friendly. Made it's way through the various levels of bull[censored][censored][censored][censored]. I signed 50 documents wasted alot of my time and they ultimately turned it down. It was risk free to them.
It was risk free to you, too.
What do you expect from a huge company like that?
02-22-2011 04:49 PM
houseofcards
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Originally Posted by plantbrain View Post
...Would the CEO of Petsmart converse with me personally for product development and be as responsive?
Probably NOT. I once proposed something to Petsmart corporate that was vey planted aquaria friendly. Made it's way through the various levels of bull[censored][censored][censored][censored]. I signed 50 documents wasted alot of my time and they ultimately turned it down. It was risk free to them.
02-22-2011 04:41 PM
plantbrain
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Originally Posted by shawnhu View Post
http://www.marineland.com/sites/mari...=5523&mid=5528

Marineland has released their LED fixtures to Petsmart local stores.
They use those 1 watt lights, not the 3 w Cree. Catalina is a small business, much like Ideal needle valve, or our LFS's.......I would rather give them a plug for helping us specifically. Same with SeaChem who also came in and helped a lot in the past even though we often think of them as some large corporation, they really are not. Greg, CEO/Prez is very open and helpful. Would the CEO of Petsmart converse with me personally for product development and be as responsive?

Jim was nice and offered freebies for the local club etc.
I have no issues helping out such folks. Petsmart?
Nope, they and other large chains have killed off a few LFS's, without helping the hobby with knowledge or local clubs.

Maybe I'm more a farmer's market type of guy.
Buy local, stay local etc. But larger does not have to be worse also, if done right.
02-22-2011 04:30 PM
plantbrain Jim from Catalina called me and has built the LED's specific for planted tanks, we just need to measure the PAR and then we will post the data.
02-22-2011 03:25 PM
shawnhu http://www.marineland.com/sites/mari...=5523&mid=5528

Marineland has released their LED fixtures to Petsmart local stores.
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