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10-20-2010 07:50 PM
plantbrain The other neat idea, but engineering wise, weight etc........tougher......is to use this same approach with rock.

I can do this with stryofoam etc, but the weight of the rock becomes an issue for glass tanks.

Reef folks do it, but the branch rock used is not common in FW systems or many rock sources. The air rock, the light weight tufa like stuff is ugly.
Foam or rubber/siliconed bases can help I suppose.

I'd like to do this for the Tropheus tank which is next up on my list of things I put off.



Regards,
Tom Barr
10-20-2010 07:37 PM
plantbrain
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Originally Posted by 2wheelsx2 View Post
I like how it's the same techniques, just with newer and nicer equipment.
Rehashed and revamped, and just as easy.

It's an old Dutch philosophy, not anything to do with the Japanese or Amano's aesthetic.

Very different in that regard.
My taste where formed from that and nature, not Amano, but he did have a great influence on all of us some way or another.

I think the tenchnique using nice emergent growth on a non CO2 tank is a really good idea. I'm also curious to see how Amano would view and consider it.

He often says he's looking for something "new", this is natural, and requires no CO2 and has the highest maximal light use efficiency, zero algae, better conditions for fish, easier methods to fertilize the plants etc.

You can very many sections of streams and lakes where plants grow emergently on snags.

Very common. This is also where the fish congregate.

Pic at Lily springs FL



Regards,
Tom Barr
10-20-2010 07:25 PM
2wheelsx2 I like how it's the same techniques, just with newer and nicer equipment.
10-20-2010 07:23 PM
plantbrain
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Originally Posted by King Friday View Post
A little late to the party on this thread, but nice tank, Tom. Love the big MH fixtures. Haven't seen a cork background like that for many years. I began a long hiatus from the hobby right about this time, when Horst and Kippur's Optimum Aquarium and Dupla were the hot new kids in town. As you mentioned, I remember endlessly worrying about my PO4 levels and the outbreak of BBA I was sure they were causing. I must have spent a fortune on Phos-sorb and other similar products before giving up and throwing in the towel for seventeen years. Amazing how things change.
Well ,Dupla got some things correct, some things where way off.
I credit them with the the things they got right, not wrong.

They did get folks using CO2 gas tank systems widely.
Amano seemed to have laid claim to being the first person to use CO2 he claims a few places. Dupla also makes this claim, as well as using Chelated Fe.

Neither of which is even remotely the least bit true.
Both where being used a decades before either of them even kept fish.
Perhaps not widely or within the hobby, or some large company pushing for it........but I doubt they even bothered to give the credit and took it for themselves.

That type of stuff bugs me.
I did not discover anything new, I just argued for it.


Regards,
Tom Barr
10-20-2010 07:18 PM
plantbrain
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Originally Posted by lauraleellbp View Post
How is your cork background installed?

Is it across the entire back of the tank?

Is the Hydrocoytle sitting on another ledge of cork? I really like the way it's growing in this tank. That would be pretty easy to do with a glass canopy tank, too, since the backs of those often are open. Just have to hang the light. Hmmmm....
Does the same thing here:



Just entangles.....then grows from there.
Not really "attached"



Regards,
Tom Barr
10-20-2010 07:16 PM
plantbrain
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Originally Posted by lauraleellbp View Post
How is your cork background installed?

Is it across the entire back of the tank?

Is the Hydrocoytle sitting on another ledge of cork? I really like the way it's growing in this tank. That would be pretty easy to do with a glass canopy tank, too, since the backs of those often are open. Just have to hang the light. Hmmmm....
Does the same thing here:




This is a non CO2 aquarium however.
I'm converting over 2 other of my larger tanks to non CO2 as well.


Just entangles.....then grows from there.
Not really "attached"

Regards,
Tom Barr
10-20-2010 07:15 PM
plantbrain Cork is siliconed the entire back of the tank.





Regards,
Tom Barr
10-20-2010 05:37 PM
lauraleellbp How is your cork background installed?

Is it across the entire back of the tank?

Is the Hydrocoytle sitting on another ledge of cork? I really like the way it's growing in this tank. That would be pretty easy to do with a glass canopy tank, too, since the backs of those often are open. Just have to hang the light. Hmmmm....
10-20-2010 05:32 PM
AoxomoxoA
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Originally Posted by The Plantman View Post
I would love to see a "Tom in the Beginning to Now" thread!

Pictures in chronological order.

Thanks for sharing this pic Tom.
+1!!! That would be awesome to say the least.

I was offline when this was 1st posted. Thanks for sharing Tom, always enlightening & much appreciated
10-20-2010 05:26 PM
The Plantman I would love to see a "Tom in the Beginning to Now" thread!

Pictures in chronological order.

Thanks for sharing this pic Tom.
10-20-2010 04:50 PM
King Friday A little late to the party on this thread, but nice tank, Tom. Love the big MH fixtures. Haven't seen a cork background like that for many years. I began a long hiatus from the hobby right about this time, when Horst and Kippur's Optimum Aquarium and Dupla were the hot new kids in town. As you mentioned, I remember endlessly worrying about my PO4 levels and the outbreak of BBA I was sure they were causing. I must have spent a fortune on Phos-sorb and other similar products before giving up and throwing in the towel for seventeen years. Amazing how things change.
06-28-2010 01:42 AM
!shadow! Wow that's some nice riccia there tom, thanks again for the photos.
06-27-2010 11:36 PM
plantbrain





Sort of killed the "excess PO4 is bad" theories back then.
My tap had a fair amount.


Regards,
Tom Barr
06-27-2010 11:32 PM
plantbrain
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Originally Posted by xmas_one View Post
Hamilton halides, nice. That's an awesome tank, is it still up?
Big ugly globes.

No longer up, I have more tanks and rimless these days.

Regards,
Tom Barr
06-26-2010 10:55 PM
Quesenek Nice, for just 15 years ago it has a nice vintage look to it.
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