Watch out for the ultimate aggressor! I had 3 pairs of breeding rams and the alpha male killed rival male's female after that every thing went wacky the alpha male killed the other fishes most succumbed to their injuries. I find that the best ratio is 2 males 4 females
If doing multiples, prob best to introduce simultaneously and to have several spots where they can have separate territories out of sight from each other. Often difficult to get a female identified accurately, when they are so pale at the lfs. Very interesting fish, fun to watch behavior, can be something of a digger, one of mine liked to play with the gravel. Mine didn't bother other species, and only displayed and rushed at each other without contact, but not constantly. They are midrange in tank: mine nested on flat topped rocks.
I havent experienced the extreme aggression out of my rams that some of the folks above have listed. Mine are in a heavily planted 125g and all seem to interact well with each other as well as the other fish in the tank (angels, tetras, etc). I currently have a breeders pair that will chase onlookers off, but other than that, they are very passive.
I've kept quite a number of these, and never found them to be aggressive towards other fish. I wouldn't recommend more than a single pair in a tank of any size, however. They are gorgeous and surprisingly hardy fish.
If keeping more than 1 in a tank I would recommend a pair (1 male and 1 female) in at least a 20 gallon tank. If you want more than 1 pair I would go with at least a 75 gallon tank that is heavily plants with separate rock or wood areas for them to claim. If you are trying to get a breeding pair start with 1 male and 2 or 3 females, but be prepared to move the males rejects to another location. Sometimes can be sensitive in terms of health, if you are looking for a similar but hardier fish a good choice is a Bolivian Ram.
Provide a large school of very small fish and they calm down quite a bit, I can't wait to get my pair from my friend, his have no aggression problems and he says the small fish have a lot to do with it, beautiful fish.
I love my pair. i started with one and she just looked lonely. so went out and got another (a female)[turns out i was backwards, i had a female and bought a male.] and they are fine, non aggressive in my tank, they only chase eachother but not aggressively. Insanely colorful and full of personality. i keep them with a Blue Dwarf and a Gold Gourami, two Apistogramma borelli, 3 neon zebra danios, a bamboo flower shrimp, cherries and ghost shrimp.
These are truly charming fish. I've never had much luck with them, only ever had a pair for 1 year and they never spawned. The fish are real personalities. They fair best as the dominant fish in the tank, don't worry they aren't typically "aggressive" but they don't do well being dominated by other fish. I find in to tight of confines they will clash with betas, and dwarf gouramies. I've never kept with inverts, could someone comment on compatibility?
These fish are great with other community fish, and no, they will not bother your amano shrimp. The only time they go after other fish in my tank is while they are spawning, and at that, only when the other fish come around the eggs. We have a breeding pair and a solo female. She is getting picked on by the pair (of course). Would it be better to get another female, or try to get a male for her to pair with?
I have a 55gl with 50 baby' 2 1/2 months old (about an inch) and about 100 in the 30 gl their about a month old (cm). Few days I'll add them to my 55 display tank for people to come by n buy if they like or trade.
I have tried for years to keep this fish in my tanks. I have killed more than 50 of these and spent hundreds of dollars hoping they would live. My first pair lived for 6 months in my tank. They laid eggs on my old mother sword and then died the following morning after laying eggs. Subsequently, all rams following this pair have died within a few days of being in the tank, with the exception of 1 that lived 2 months then died. I have tried keeping them in my 90, 20, other 20, and the now taken down 10. I then tried appistograma species, no luck their either other than the hefty hole left in my pocket. I also tried powder blue, balloon, no luck. Then I bought a bolivian and its still alive now 3 months in. I might try one more time after I get all my new plants in and settled. I refuse to give up. I have tried different petsmarts, lfs, I even drove 3 hours to see another not-so-lfs and try their rams. No luck. I think this time im going to buy like 20-30 of them and hope 1 lives.
The only time my German ram was aggressive was when he was by himself, they are very social and need at least one playmate. Also i don't consider it aggression if other fish are not harmed or physically/mentally scared. They play a little ruff but when everybody comes back for more I say no harm. BY FAR MY FAVORITE FISH.
I believe the GBR is a tank bred color variant of the common ram. We have, in addition to the wild forms: the gold ram, electric blue ram, German blue ram, longfins, and there may be others less known. They like it warm, and do very well with discus. If the ammonia levels are watched and stay extremely low, it's an easy fish. But it's extremely sensitive to ammonia; all it takes is once and the owner will most likely lose them.
I've got a breeding pair in a 15 gallon long. I did a lot of research before-hand. My tank is moderately planted. I did not buy the two fish with breeding in mind, but I knew from research that optimum color is reached when a male and female is present. At the LFS the fish were housed in a large group. I watched the fish for a while and noticed that two fish, male and female were setting themselves apart from the main shoal. The fish both looked healthy, so I bought them. I also went in knowing that these fish tend to have high mortality rates, and these are the first cichlids I have ever bought--So it was an experiement on my part. I put the fish in my community tank. It has been a little over 3 weeks now, and the fish have spawned on me, though luckily for me, most of the eggs have been eaten so far (I have no space for fry). The color of these fish really comes out after a few weeks, and for the most part, I find these fish quite peaceful.
I purchased two from my LFS thinking I had a male/female. Alas, once they settled into my 75 usg tank I realized I had 2 males. Both alive but one beats the crap out of the other constantly. Looking to possibly add a few females but my first outing at my LFS in getting a female didn't go as planned. We will see.
Amazing fish simple to keep if you can do these 2 things: -Acclimate slow and maintain water parameters they can handle a wide range of ph but are very sensitive to ph swings.I acclimated mine for 1.5 hours -Provide a lot of "comfort".These fish are very easily stressed and need many dense plants to really settle in and reach their full potential.They also like a large school of peaceful fish to keep them relaxed.Contrary to what you would think and read they have no need for rocks or caves they do just fine with plants and driftwood in my opinion.I purchased lots of lace rock for mine and they never payed any attention to it,so i placed all my driftwood back in and removed my rocks they immediately seemed more active and at ease.
I have a pair of locally bred (meaning they aren't quite as beautiful as the wild captured but are still gorgeous) blue rams in my very heavily planted 20 gallon. They do fine with my schools of tetras, rasboras, octos, and rainbows. I have a lot of shrimp which do get picked off on occassion by the rams -- only thing that bugs me about that is the rams kill the shrimp then never finish the job of eating them. Among my favourite small fish.