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04-11-2008, 01:02 PM
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Thanks james thats awesome. So awesome it seems other people want to take credit for ur post. http://www.endlersr.us/viewtopic.php?p=2011#2011
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04-11-2008, 08:46 PM
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No problem james, its an excellent list and if my work was being spread around, I would like to know. Thanks for taking ur time to make this list.
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04-11-2008, 08:55 PM
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I agree. That is why I appreciate Homer for him giving me the credit and then letting me know about some other sites. My list is based on just research that I have done. Im sure others have had the idea but I just put it in black and white.
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04-13-2008, 12:22 PM
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I have some cardamine lyrata in a 3 gallon low tech, low light(10 watt compact flurorescent at work), it is growing at a snails pace. And talk about snails, the tank has snails and either the snail or Amano Shrimp is eating the leaves as the cardamine leaves appear as though they have been munched on. The same is true for a low tech, low light(15 watt compact fluorescent 6500 K daylight) 5 gallon tank at home. Again, something is munching on the leaves and my guess is that it is either the snails or Amano Shrimps. No c02 injection in either tank, and I do dose with Excel daily with a double dose with every water change. The leaves tend to grow close to the surface and in all the tanks that I have it in the leaves closest to the top seem be develop green spot algae and in the 5 gallon low tech tank, I am also seeing black brush algae on the leaves closest to the surface. The average tank temperature in both the 3 gallon and 5 gallon low tech is about 27 degrees celcius. With all other things being equal I just added Cardamine Lyrata to a 5 gallon low tech hex tank that I set up. Based on what happened with it in the other tanks you would think that it would/should have done well. It did okay(did not grow or die) for the first month but then literally fell apart at the seams. The only difference between this tank and the 3 gallon and 5 gallon was temperature. The hex tank was averaging temperatures of 30 degrees celcius unlike the 27 degrees celcius tempertature of the 3 and 5 gallon. I suspect that cadamine lyrata does not do well at higher temperatures. Based on this description, the plant prefers 18-25 degree temperature, which may explain why it fell apart in the hex at 30 degree celcius temperature, with all other things being equal. In my 15 gallon ADA Aquasoil tank(1/2 EI fert dosing) with 46 watt 6500K compact fluorescent bulb lighting, DIY c02 injection, it grows like a weed and I have to trim it weekly. Again, the 15 gallon tank temperature averages 27 degrees celcius. In another 10 gallon tank with 26 watt lighting(EI fert dosing) with DIY c02 injection and Schultz Aquatic Soil, it also grows like a weed, but growth seems to really slow down when tank temperature shoots up to 30 degrees celcius. This is also true of my 40 gallon tank with 2 55 watt AH supply bright kit lighting and pressurized c02 injection. In both those tanks, the cardamine leaves closest to the tank's surface have a bad case of green spot algae. Just my 2 cents.
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04-15-2008, 08:57 PM
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He claims that the java moss is growing like a weed in both tanks. For the 24 degree celcius 30 gallon tank: PH: 6.5 GH(General Hardness): 40 ppm(on the soft side). Ideal is considered between 50-120 ppm. KH(carbonate hardness): 20 ppm. Ideal is considered between 50-120 ppm. Nitrates: 40 ppm. This is considered really high. Ideal is 10-20 ppm as per Rex Grigg. This begs the question: how the heck are his Ghost Shrimp doing so well with nitrates so high?? Phosphates: 5 ppm. Ideal is 1.0-2.0 ppm as per Rex Grigg For the 22-23 degree celcius 20 gallon tank. PH: 7.0 GH: 60 ppm KH: 30 ppm Nitrates: 40 ppm - Incredible that he has had no ghost shrimp deaths in over a year. Phosphates: 5 ppm His water parameters are less than ideal but his java moss is growing like a weed, his guppies are breeding like rabbits, and his ghost shrimp have grown large and are still alive. That has me scratching my head. I think one thing is clear: the lower water temperature may account for why his java moss is doing so well. I think identifying low light plants on the list based on ideal temperature range may be a good idea given that peoples' tanks may vary significantly in terms of water temperature and given that most people are likely going to keep a heater, it may be a good idea for them to know which plants may not be effected by higher temperatures. Just my 2 cents.
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04-16-2008, 01:19 AM
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http://winnipeg.ca/waterandwaste/wat...s/Winnipeg.stm I don't have a calcium test kit as I would have been interested in testing his water sample's calcium level. He claims not to dose any extra calcium and even told me that he removes the ghost shrimp molted skins/castings. So, what is puzzling is that if the tap water has less than ideal levels of calcium and he is removing the ghost shrimp skin molts which if left would add calcium to the water and he is not dosing calicum, how or why are his Ghost Shrimp doing well and how have they managed to survive in water with sublevels of calicum. He is only using plain aquarium gravel so there is no calcium being leached from the substrate that would account for this. For me, it is a real mystery. I have never had much luck with ghost shrimp and even purchased them from the same store as him. And I was adding calicum sulphate to the water. Again, it looks like temperature may partly account for this. The tank where my Ghost Shrimp kicked the bucket and my java moss turned brown and died was averaging about 30 degrees celcius.
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04-16-2008, 02:12 AM
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Ghost shrimp tend to do best at lower temperatures. Maybe in me researching more with Java Moss I will research with the Ghost Shrimp! His tank must be SUPREMELY healthy if they can live in 40ppm NO3 levels. I couldnt even keep my Ghost Shrimp alive in 5ppm NO3. As far as the calcium I am sure they molt, and especially in a planted aquaria, finding ALL the molts in the tank is somewhat impossible. Some shrimp hoard theirs and eat it later and somethings it gets stuck in the plants and hardscape. That is just my thoughts though.
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04-22-2008, 05:05 PM
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Well I have the list printed out and have a cover for it so I have it looking nice. Once I get the chance today I will look through and base things on temperature, Fertilization(including CO2) Needs, and aquarium placement. Thanks you guys.
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04-23-2008, 02:52 AM
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Okay this list is going to be turned into an actual article
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