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Old 01-08-2007, 09:56 PM   #31 (permalink)
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with an ODNO setup can you still use the bulb sleeves or do the bulbs get too hot for them?
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Old 06-08-2007, 01:44 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Hi all,

Will ODNO work with this kind of lamp:



As far as I can tell it's the same technology as the regular tubes, just with a 180° bend in it...

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Old 06-09-2007, 12:44 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Looks like compact florecent bulb to me. You can over drive them but they run very hot and you cant make them very much brighter. ODing is for t12-t8 really.
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Old 06-09-2007, 04:05 PM   #34 (permalink)
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PC bulbs are basically already on overdrive, it isn't worth the electricity to overdrive them more, the efficiency drops.
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What reflectors are you using for the t8's?
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Thanks for that. I was hoping to be able to overdrive them, but I think I'll forget it now. I just needed a little more light output.

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Old 08-09-2008, 01:46 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Thanks for the very awesome thread. Most of what I saw so far was the assumption that energy would be wasted. I'm moving forward now with my ODNO project.

I only wish that 2 bulbs were tested @ 2x ODNO to see it the ballast provided the 112watts? or less than 100w

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Old 09-13-2008, 09:27 AM   #38 (permalink)
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I haven't overdriven yet. However, reading over and over this article, leaves me wondering what could be achieved ODing using several single bulb ballasts. I have 4 of them. Do you think that could overdrive actual 2x? I mean, actual 64 watts into one bulb with two ballasts?

I fear, without a solid basis, that two ballasts won't work in perfect sync, and cause some serious strike or shock.
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Old 09-13-2008, 09:57 AM   #39 (permalink)
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No, it's not possible.
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:41 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Just as I thought.
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:38 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Hi All, my first post.

This is a great thread that got me working on my personal OD project, which I just completed.

This weekend, I retrofitted a similar setup and got some results that seem to back up the original findings in this thread.

The set up is:

1 - Advance REL-4P32-SC (4x32W)
3 - Philips T8 48" Daylight 6500K bulbs in the following configuration:
1st bulb - normal output (1 lead)
2nd bulb - normal output (1 lead)
3rd bulb - overdrive 2x (2 leads)

Due to way the hood is set up, the wiring is permanent, so I can only test according to the on/off combinations above by removing or adding bulbs.

Using the kill-a-watt device (which I love), I got the following wattage consumption measurements:

a) No bulbs installed: 5 watts
b) Only 1 NO bulb: 40 watts
c) Only the 2xOD bulb: 54 watts
d) Both NO bulbs: 66 watts
e) One NO and the 2xOD: 80 watts
f) All three bulbs: 102 watts

With all three bulbs on, the 2xOD bulb is noticibly brighter. Unfortuntely, I don't have any light measuring equipment, so that desciption is as scientific as it's gonna get. Thats a shame b/c while the 2xOD is brighter, I don't know if the 2xOD brighter b/c of pure additional lighting, or if it was somehow stealing something from the other bulbs and making them dimmer.

The ballast was plugged into the kill-a-watt device, which in turn was plugged directly into a wall socket.

Any comments, questions or suggestions?

Thanks

Switching into a electronic ballast rather than a noraml ballast will helps save at least 30% of the electricity consumption as well..
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