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Old 05-10-2008, 06:06 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I think what everyone here is trying to get at is, why spend so much on a nice ADA tank and place it on a stand that isn't the correct size. Theres no sense rushing the stand if it won't fit flush. No one here wants to see you rush and have regrets later on. You spent the money on a nice ADA tank, now finish it off with a stand that will compliment the tank.

You can either wait for the actual tank to come in and measure it yourself or just convert the *cm* to inches and give him that to work with. Like I said before, ANY good carpenter should beable to convert or at least make it to your perfect specs.
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I think what everyone here is trying to get at is, why spend so much on a nice ADA tank and place it on a stand that isn't the correct size. Theres no sense rushing the stand if it won't fit flush. No one here wants to see you rush and have regrets later on. You spent the money on a nice ADA tank, now finish it off with a stand that will compliment the tank.

You can either wait for the actual tank to come in and measure it yourself or just convert the *cm* to inches and give him that to work with. Like I said before, ANY good carpenter should beable to convert or at least make it to your perfect specs.
I agree with Matsu49. If I were to build this stand, my goal would be to make it so flush with the sides of the tank, you would think that the tank and the stand were one physical unit. I would go as far as to measure the thickness of the formica and figure that into my overall measurements so that even the addition of the formica would bring the stand sides exactly to the three facing sides of the tank.

I wouldn't settle for anything less than perfection considering how much cash you are dropping on this setup.

I wonder if one can buy a metric tape measure in the US? Never thought about it until now.
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I agree with Matsu49. If I were to build this stand, my goal would be to make it so flush with the sides of the tank, you would think that the tank and the stand were one physical unit. I would go as far as to measure the thickness of the formica and figure that into my overall measurements so that even the addition of the formica would bring the stand sides exactly to the three facing sides of the tank.

I wouldn't settle for anything less than perfection considering how much cash you are dropping on this setup.

I wonder if one can buy a metric tape measure in the US? Never thought about it until now.
I agree with you guys - so do you think I should just wait until I get the tank and measure it?

I thought the measurements I posted above was the measurements converted to inches - is it not?
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I would hold off rick. I think it would be advantageous for you to measure the tank once you have it and give your builder EXACT measurements down the the 1/16 of an inch.

As nice and expensive as those tanks are, don't cut corners or get overly anxious. Do it right the first time.

BTW, I am going to look into how much shipping for an irregular item like the stand we talked about would run. I have to know now because I am curious.
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Yah your right - so you don't think the measurements they list are correct?
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(approx:36"x17.7"x27.55")
If thats what you are referring to, then yes. I would not go with those at all. Here's why:

It starts off with approx.

36" approximately? Is that less than or more than 36" If it is 36 3/16" then the tank is going to hang over the stand. Not cool.

I am assuming that 17.7 is the width of the tank?

.7 is close to 3/4 but not exactly. If I were to guess at what .7 was on a tape measure, I would say 11/16 of an inch? Then again, we are talking about approximate measurements. What if it is more like .8? Once again, the stand could be built a hair too small for the tank.

Too much guesswork and potential for dissappointment.
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Old 05-10-2008, 07:21 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Yes your right - so once I have it, (which will be Monday) I don't have to drive it to him do I? I should be ok just measuring it myself, right?

In that case couldn't someone who has one just measure it for me?

Or couldn't I just use one of the online calculators to covert cm to inches?
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Old 05-10-2008, 07:38 AM   #38 (permalink)
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I would assume its common knowledge to polyurethane the heck out of the inside due to inherit moisture problems and wood tendency to absorb it - especially when you open up a cannister filter and it "burps". FWIW I weld my substands out of steel, powdercoat them, and then put acrylic bottoms on them, no chance for wood rot on the "Big Spill". Then you can make a nice wood face frame and matching sides, screw them on and your done for life....

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PS I wouldnt even consider having the stand built beforehand, despite the fact you have exact measurements.
I design and build aquarium systems for a living, and despite everyones best intentions things go wrong. Ive had 4 fours over the course of my career where either the tank or stand had to be rebuilt and somebodys expense due to communication issues. Like i always say "carpenters are not fish guys" and they have thier own ideas like "well I was afraid 1/16" but be cutting it too close and i wanted to make sure it would still fit so I went ahead and made it a 1/4" on each side thatl be OK wont it..?"

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PS I wouldnt even consider having the stand built beforehand, despite the fact you have exact measurements.
I design and build aquarium systems for a living, and despite everyones best intentions things go wrong. Ive had 4 fours over the course of my career where either the tank or stand had to be rebuilt and somebodys expense due to communication issues. Like i always say "carpenters are not fish guys" and they have thier own ideas like "well I was afraid 1/16" but be cutting it too close and i wanted to make sure it would still fit so I went ahead and made it a 1/4" on each side thatl be OK wont it..?"

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Yah your right- I'll get the tank and measure it myself and give him the exact measurements - that should work, right?
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Yups. Sounds like a good plan. I'm sure that you'll be really happy with everything in the end. Good luck Rick
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Yah your right- I'll get the tank and measure it myself and give him the exact measurements - that should work, right?
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I would hold off rick. I think it would be advantageous for you to measure the tank once you have it and give your builder EXACT measurements down the the 1/16 of an inch.

As nice and expensive as those tanks are, don't cut corners or get overly anxious. Do it right the first time.
Rick, I suggested this to you two pages ago...
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Old 05-11-2008, 06:46 PM   #43 (permalink)
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If it were me I'd tell the carpenter that the tank is 45cm by 90cm and leave it at that. Any carpenter can covert units, doing it yourself will just lead him astray.
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:58 PM   #44 (permalink)
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IMHO for 2+ pages the length and width of the proposed stand have been debated to death (in both metric and inches). To me, the most important aspect of the proposed stand is its height. Three issues come to mind. 1) you have to work on/in it periodically. It would be helpful if the overall height of the stand/tank did not inhibit this. 2) you want to view it. Will it be viewed from your favorite chair or will it be viewed in the standing position. No sense spending this much money if it will not be viewed comfortably and enjoyed. 3) lastly what equipment will go inside the stand? Will there be enough room for the CF or Co2 tank.

Without a doubt my favorite tank is my smallest tank that happens to be located next to my favorite chair and is positioned at an ideal height to view when seated in said chair.

Good luck and enjoy.
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Old 06-14-2008, 05:30 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Well i finally got the stand and everything set up - it came out PERFECT. click on the link in my sig. to see it.

thanks for all the advice.
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