"Der Ewige Kreis" - "The Eternal Circle" - To be Torn Down

[fishman9809]

this is the day I got my tank. My equipment should come by the middle of the week. I will modify my current stand to hold a 20. Here is the tank currently:



filled for test



another angle


inside corner silicone job

side of tank with pretty good silicone

surprisingly, this is a petsmart top fin tank purchased today!!!!!

TEARING DOWN

[fishman9809]

so far the test is going good, no leaks!!

[sea-horsea]

what dimension is it? and your stand? looking good...

[fishman9809]

the tank is an ordinary 20 long (30 longx12x12) and stand is this:



it has to be modded to have metal rods down the center because there is no supports there.

[RampageRunner]

What are you going to put in that there tank? Any ideas?

[fishman9809]

I am planning on putting 2 pairs of Blue Rams in along with a school of 9 rummynoses and 5 otocinclus cocama.

I haven't completely decided on plants except:

Amazon Frogbit

Stargrass

Echinodorus Tellenus (narrow leaf as a carpet)

Echinodorus parviflorus var tropica

and last, but definatley not least: Echinodorus 'vesuvius'

[Ozymandias]

vary nice Fishman can't wait to see how this end up. keep us posted and by the way what equipment are you going to be using?

[t0p_sh0tta]

Nice, 2pr of Rams might be pushing it in a 20 though. I had a pair of sub-adults pair off in my 30 long and they easily took over half of it.

Edit:

Also, what type of substrate will you be using?

[fishman9809]

well, a lot of equipment is being donated to me. They are as follows:

1 - whisper 30 filter
1 - box of filter bags
2 - hagen bottles for diy co2
1 - hagen bubble ladder
1 - Marc Weiss Keta Peat nuggets
1 - Coralife F/W T-5 Aqualight Double Strip Light-30"
2 - bags of Eco Complete/flourite (haven't decided yet)
1 - set of Manzanita from Badcopnofishtank

Did I forget anything? Please mention it to me if I forgot something, then I will post the missing info.

[fishman9809]

hey topshotta, I was told by a member at apistogramma.com that it should be fine. And even so, I might go with a trio of apistos or just a plain pair of Rams.

We'll see, I got time.

[Bugman]

Great start. I have to agree about the rams. Read some profiles on them. Min aquarium for 1 pair is generally said to be 20 for two pair it is generally said 55 and that must be heavily planted with a lot of hiding places.

[lauraleellbp]

Fish- your stargrass pic isn't coming through? Glad you finally got the pic thing all worked out, though

I'd go with Fluorite over Eco- Eco will raise and buffer your pH and kH, which you don't want in this tank.

Nice plant choices

[fishman9809]

thank you for all your comments, sorry it was delayed, but I was with my buddy playing tennis. I will use Flourite afeter what I heard you say Lauralee. I think I misheard, I think he said a pair of Rams or a group of 2 pairs of apistos, because apistos tend to be more less terretorial than the Rams. Really Lauralee? I can see the stargrass fine. Any equipment I forgot to mention?

[Left C]

Hi

Rams are pretty fish, but they're many varieties of Apistos that are really pretty and you just don't see them nearly as often.

If you do get some Apistos, only go with one male and all the same species at first.

I stupidly tried a tank that had three pairs of different Apistos and a pair of Rams. One species of Apistos killed all the other species, but they didn't bother the Rams though. They Apistos that were left and the Rams spawned together many times, but the Rams eggs were always eaten. I ended up with many of the same species of Apistos. The father and the male children never fought for some reason. The female Apistos wanted to spawn more often than the males and they would attack the males if he didn't pay her any attention. It was funny.

I'm keeping Pseudocrenilabrus nicholsi now. They're a dwarf mouth brooding African cichlid that aren't from the hard water lakes and they work well in a planted tank. They're spunky and the males want to breed 24/7.

http://badmanstropicalfish.com/cichl..._nicholsi.html
http://www.gcca.net/fom/Pseudocrenilabrus_nicholsi.htm
http://www.african-cichlid.com/nicholsi.htm

[goalcreas]

Originally Posted by Bugman

Great start. I have to agree about the rams. Read some profiles on them. Min aquarium for 1 pair is generally said to be 20 for two pair it is generally said 55 and that must be heavily planted with a lot of hiding places.

Where does this come from. I have had 3 pair with MORE THEN ENOUGH room in a 29 gallon and a trio of apisto's in there, and all of them spawning. Of course water changes are a must, but IMHO they are anyway.