"Der Ewige Kreis" - "The Eternal Circle" - To be Torn Down

[fishman9809]

I forgot to say, I might not go with echinodorus vesuvius, as it is very hard to find.

[lauraleellbp]

E. vesuvius isn't that hard, you just need to be willing to wait, or post a WTB ad in the forum. I've seen some posted 3-4 times in the past month across both this and APC's S&S...

I'll send you some if you still want any by the time mine establishes and is ready to start sending out runners... but in a low light tank like mine that might be a longggg time from now so don't hold your breath! LOL

[fishman9809]

no, its ok, I really like the look of Echinodorus Tenellus, it really has changed my thoughts. THE EQUIPMENT CAME TODAY!!!!!!! I AM SOOOOOO HAPPY!!!!

[@marko@]

so what equipement will you use (like filter, heater, CO2, light, etc.)? i dont know if you already said this. i just saw the thread yesterday and am too lazy to check all the pages.

[fishman9809]

yeah, I did, but here:

1 - whisper 30 filter
1 - box of filter bags
2 - hagen bottles for diy co2
1 - hagen bubble ladder
1 - Marc Weiss Keta Peat nuggets
1 - Coralife F/W T-5 Aqualight Double Strip Light-30"
2 - bags of flourite (haven't decided yet)
1 - set of Manzanita from Badcopnofishtank

[@marko@]

ugh, i dont really like whispers, they are big, bulky, dont circulate water well (water from the outake just goes right back in), and the cascade straight down makes it impossible to put stems underneath to hide them. i know they are cheap, but there is a reason for it. too late now, but i suggest you switch out in a year or so for an ehiem ecco (thats what i have and i LOVE it).

how will you diffuse the other bottle? (if you can do it, you will have the perfect amount of CO2).

you lighting is kinda low. less then 2 watts per gallon. i know its T5 but still. its all preference but i preffer yellows and reds with immense lighting.

two thumbs up for the flourite (two thumbs down for rinsing it, it takes forever).

[IC3D]

I just added the flourite black to my 37g and it's a mess!

I think I might have the same lighting setup as you.... I'll have to check though.

[lauraleellbp]

Originally Posted by IC3D

I just added the flourite black to my 37g and it's a mess!

I rinsed mine 2-3 times and then left it spread out on a white sheet in the sun to dry. Left it dry in my tank overnight. Next day I filled the tank and it did not cloud the water AT ALL- I'm telling ya- drying it is the key!

[macclellan]

Originally Posted by @marko@

ugh, i dont really like whispers, they are big, bulky, dont circulate water well (water from the outake just goes right back in), and the cascade straight down makes it impossible to put stems underneath to hide them. i know they are cheap, but there is a reason for it.

That is 100% correct! I just got my first Whisper, and it is crapola. My shrimp's swimmerets do a better job of circulating water than that POS.

[fishman9809]

yeah, I know, dont worry guys, I will get a canister filter soon. I got thew equipment today, the peat, DIY Co2, filter, catridges, and everything came today !!!!!

[@marko@]

great so when do you think you will set the tank up?
id really like to see it with plants on friday and an update on thursday, but i know thats rushing it. (im leaving for aruba on saturday morning and coming back on thursday, so thats why) but dont set your schedule by me.

[fishman9809]

i wish, I have no stand (new one or my stand with mods). My dad left to Switzerland today and doesn't want me to do anything with the stand until he comes back. Also, I have no credit card or anything, so I cant order substrate, t-5 double light strip, and a new Hagen bubble ladder.

[@marko@]

is there any chance of me convincing you to get a stronger light?
ill say again youll have under 2 wpg and wont be able to keep a lot of plants.

[@marko@]

there is a lamp which gives 29 more watts, and is only 18 dollars less:
Coralife Freshwater Aqualight Deluxe-Single 30" Strip

its 65w, which is (IMO) the best wattage for an average 20L

[fishman9809]

t-5 gives of more lumens, and they are stronger than Compact Fluorescent. the tqank is very low, 12 inches high, so the light is plenty powerful enough for the plants, anyway, later, when I have more money, I will buy a second of the t-5 fixtures.