20 Gallon High Tech *the downoi is dead

**clwatkins10** · 03-26-2008, 02:02 AM

ok, i have had a 20 gallon up and running for a while with plain glazed gravel (which i decided to keep), and the java moss started to take over, so i decided it was time for a change

. here is a picture of the tank before redoing it....
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so i trimmed the moss, moved the java fern to the other side, moved and added wood to the corner where the java fern was, added some cryptocorne wendtii (sp?) two pots of dwarf hairgrass, a red lilly of some sort, (i forgot what it was called, it has red, arrow shaped leaves), two anubias nana and some giant hairgrass (Eleocharis montevidensis) I also added diy co2 with a bamboo skewer diffuser then the bubbles go up into a water pump on the side, which chops up the bubbles eveen further. After 3 hours, i have already noticed pearling (although i can get any good pictures of it.
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thanks for reading, comments and criticisms welcome

**clwatkins10** · 03-26-2008, 02:04 AM

this is my co2, it is sideways, but hopefully you can tell what is going onAttachment 6854

**clwatkins10** · 03-26-2008, 02:05 AM

actually that is a horrible picture lol

Spiritwind · 03-26-2008, 02:14 AM

Not seeing any pictures.

**clwatkins10** · 03-26-2008, 02:26 AM

dang, ill fix the pics, and it is at 2 wpg

**@marko@** · 03-26-2008, 02:44 AM

yeah it gives me a message: invalid attachment.
sounds good though.

**lauraleellbp** · 03-26-2008, 02:55 AM

You may have trouble with the hairgrass; from what I've read it usually needs med to high light? (more like 3-4wpg) Let us know if it works out under 2wpg, though!

**clwatkins10** · 03-26-2008, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lauraleellbp

You may have trouble with the hairgrass; from what I've read it usually needs med to high light? (more like 3-4wpg) Let us know if it works out under 2wpg, though!

ya, im planning on upgrading the light soon, thanks

**mpodolan** · 03-26-2008, 04:16 PM

Hairgrass, and most plants, can grow under 2wpg, it will just be slower growth than with higher light setups. Some plants do tend to grow differently (height, spread, etc) under different intensities, though

StereoKills · 03-26-2008, 06:11 PM

Very nice setup. I agree that you'll probably want to up your lighting a bit for the plants you have. You'll love the results, I know I did

**clwatkins10** · 03-27-2008, 01:57 AM

ok, i made a new light fixture today and added 10w of light, which gives me 2.5 wpg with good reflectors. all of the plants are pearling, especially the java fern and anubias nana. also, some hc that im experimenting with that is on the driftwood is starting to pearl, it is in the bottom 3rd of the tank

**clwatkins10** · 03-27-2008, 02:50 AM

oh, and i was wondering

**clwatkins10** · 03-30-2008, 02:31 AM

can a moderator move this to the photo album section?
thanks

**clwatkins10** · 04-02-2008, 03:20 AM

ok, i made this a low tech tank and moved the hairgrass to another tank, pics up soon

**clwatkins10** · 04-02-2008, 04:27 AM

fish 002.jpg i also trimmed the java moss

03-26-2008, 02:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
clwatkins10 ¡ɐɯɯoɯ 'ɐoɥʍ (View User Tanks) PTrader: (27) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lexington, Ky Posts: 2,642	co2 this is my co2, it is sideways, but hopefully you can tell what is going onAttachment 6854 __________________ EHEIM PIMP #298~~~~~~~I said it's great to be a TENNESSEE VOL! 55->Low-Tech - 20->High Tech - 10-> Vertical Terrarium - 7.2->ADA 30-C Moss Scape - 2.5->Rimless "Little Mountain"

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clwatkins10 ¡ɐɯɯoɯ 'ɐoɥʍ (View User Tanks) PTrader: (27) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lexington, Ky Posts: 2,642	dang, ill fix the pics, and it is at 2 wpg __________________ EHEIM PIMP #298~~~~~~~I said it's great to be a TENNESSEE VOL! 55->Low-Tech - 20->High Tech - 10-> Vertical Terrarium - 7.2->ADA 30-C Moss Scape - 2.5->Rimless "Little Mountain"

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lauraleellbp Fresh Fish Freak (View User Tanks) PTrader: (37) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 8,803	You may have trouble with the hairgrass; from what I've read it usually needs med to high light? (more like 3-4wpg) Let us know if it works out under 2wpg, though! __________________ Laura Lee; 29gal, 46gal,and 90gal FW planted in progress- see my journal at http://forums.tfhmagazine.com/viewto...p?f=82&t=23207

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mpodolan A work in progress (View User Tanks) PTrader: (58) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lenox, MI Posts: 1,321	Hairgrass, and most plants, can grow under 2wpg, it will just be slower growth than with higher light setups. Some plants do tend to grow differently (height, spread, etc) under different intensities, though __________________ Mike 10" Cube 10g Shrimp tank 20g planted 50g planted

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StereoKills Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (2) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ithaca, NY Posts: 17	Very nice setup. I agree that you'll probably want to up your lighting a bit for the plants you have. You'll love the results, I know I did

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clwatkins10 ¡ɐɯɯoɯ 'ɐoɥʍ (View User Tanks) PTrader: (27) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lexington, Ky Posts: 2,642	light ok, i made a new light fixture today and added 10w of light, which gives me 2.5 wpg with good reflectors. all of the plants are pearling, especially the java fern and anubias nana. also, some hc that im experimenting with that is on the driftwood is starting to pearl, it is in the bottom 3rd of the tank __________________ EHEIM PIMP #298~~~~~~~I said it's great to be a TENNESSEE VOL! 55->Low-Tech - 20->High Tech - 10-> Vertical Terrarium - 7.2->ADA 30-C Moss Scape - 2.5->Rimless "Little Mountain"

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clwatkins10 ¡ɐɯɯoɯ 'ɐoɥʍ (View User Tanks) PTrader: (27) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lexington, Ky Posts: 2,642	oh, and i was wondering __________________ EHEIM PIMP #298~~~~~~~I said it's great to be a TENNESSEE VOL! 55->Low-Tech - 20->High Tech - 10-> Vertical Terrarium - 7.2->ADA 30-C Moss Scape - 2.5->Rimless "Little Mountain" Last edited by clwatkins10; 08-07-2008 at 02:00 AM.

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clwatkins10 ¡ɐɯɯoɯ 'ɐoɥʍ (View User Tanks) PTrader: (27) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lexington, Ky Posts: 2,642	can a moderator move this to the photo album section? thanks __________________ EHEIM PIMP #298~~~~~~~I said it's great to be a TENNESSEE VOL! 55->Low-Tech - 20->High Tech - 10-> Vertical Terrarium - 7.2->ADA 30-C Moss Scape - 2.5->Rimless "Little Mountain"

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clwatkins10 ¡ɐɯɯoɯ 'ɐoɥʍ (View User Tanks) PTrader: (27) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lexington, Ky Posts: 2,642	ok, i made this a low tech tank and moved the hairgrass to another tank, pics up soon __________________ EHEIM PIMP #298~~~~~~~I said it's great to be a TENNESSEE VOL! 55->Low-Tech - 20->High Tech - 10-> Vertical Terrarium - 7.2->ADA 30-C Moss Scape - 2.5->Rimless "Little Mountain"

04-02-2008, 04:27 AM	#15 (permalink)
clwatkins10 ¡ɐɯɯoɯ 'ɐoɥʍ (View User Tanks) PTrader: (27) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lexington, Ky Posts: 2,642	low tech fish 002.jpg i also trimmed the java moss __________________ EHEIM PIMP #298~~~~~~~I said it's great to be a TENNESSEE VOL! 55->Low-Tech - 20->High Tech - 10-> Vertical Terrarium - 7.2->ADA 30-C Moss Scape - 2.5->Rimless "Little Mountain"

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