Using Flourish Excel and Hagen Natural Plant system together

Aquaman · 03-12-2004, 04:33 PM

Does anybody do this. I just re-did my 20h into an Asian themed tank and am adding Florish excel. Previously, I had the hagen DIY thing on it. Would it be ok to use both excel and the Hagen Co2 or is this overkill. I had really good results on this tank for over a year with the Hagen system. Moved 95% of the plants from this tank to the 90Gal., left the crypts, rotala, and ambulia.

Residents: 2 SAE's
2 Fire Dwarf Gouramis
7 Cherry barbs

Fat Guy · 03-12-2004, 04:38 PM

How much light do you have on it?

Why not just use the co2. But sure, you could use both.

malkore · 03-12-2004, 04:45 PM

if the Hagen kit is getting your CO2 levels to 20-25ppm, I don't think the Excel would provide any real benefit.

digger · 03-12-2004, 04:48 PM

If you have any extra cash on hand why not send it to me instead of buying Excel?

IUnknown · 03-12-2004, 04:58 PM

If I was doing DIY Co2 I would dose Excel if I had the option. DIY is not the most reliable. I have a wet/dry filter and dose Excel to help with the pressurized Co2. But its a small tank, 4mL 2-3 times a week goes a long way.

Aquaman · 03-12-2004, 07:57 PM

I currently have 60w NO on this tank. I was using the hagen DIY on it and had the Excel from a planted 3 gal. Nano. I dosed the recommended Excel and didnt want to kill my new fish. I have found that although the Co2/ph varies using the hagen natural plant system, it doesnt fluctuate enought to cause problems. I have let the the thing run out before and does not send the PH rocketing or anything.

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Fat Guy Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 794	How much light do you have on it? Why not just use the co2. But sure, you could use both. __________________ Planted 38G: 55W PC GE9325, 55W PC Retrofit 6700K Pressurized 5lb Ecco and Gravel Mix Link to some of my tanks on a different site

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malkore Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 2,165	if the Hagen kit is getting your CO2 levels to 20-25ppm, I don't think the Excel would provide any real benefit. __________________ Malkore Filstar XP2 PIMP #3 Visit my aquarium pages - see specs on my tanks, and photos of how they've evolved

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03-12-2004, 04:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
Aquaman Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: No. VA. Posts: 247	Does anybody do this. I just re-did my 20h into an Asian themed tank and am adding Florish excel. Previously, I had the hagen DIY thing on it. Would it be ok to use both excel and the Hagen Co2 or is this overkill. I had really good results on this tank for over a year with the Hagen system. Moved 95% of the plants from this tank to the 90Gal., left the crypts, rotala, and ambulia. Residents: 2 SAE's 2 Fire Dwarf Gouramis 7 Cherry barbs

03-12-2004, 04:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
digger Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 519	If you have any extra cash on hand why not send it to me instead of buying Excel?

03-12-2004, 04:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
IUnknown Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (1/100%) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: San Juan Capistrano, CA Posts: 642	If I was doing DIY Co2 I would dose Excel if I had the option. DIY is not the most reliable. I have a wet/dry filter and dose Excel to help with the pressurized Co2. But its a small tank, 4mL 2-3 times a week goes a long way.

03-12-2004, 07:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
Aquaman Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: No. VA. Posts: 247	I currently have 60w NO on this tank. I was using the hagen DIY on it and had the Excel from a planted 3 gal. Nano. I dosed the recommended Excel and didnt want to kill my new fish. I have found that although the Co2/ph varies using the hagen natural plant system, it doesnt fluctuate enought to cause problems. I have let the the thing run out before and does not send the PH rocketing or anything.

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