Fish that get very large (pic heavy!)

**Blue Ridge Reef** · 03-08-2008, 02:02 PM

My issue with oscars is even people who know they get large either think they won't grow that large in a smaller tank, or that it will take them years to outgrow their tank. They grow FAST, and they suffer from poor water quality in ways that novices won't notice. I only have room for a few display tanks in my space. I really don't see taking up a whole 125 just to put a big oscar in as a "warning."

**fishscale** · 03-08-2008, 07:25 PM

You should post this up in the store and tell them it's the same idea:

http://www.shorty.com/bonsaikitten/

Note: The website is not real. It was made by a troll many years ago and continues to pop up from time to time.

loachlady5 · 03-08-2008, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishscale

You should post this up in the store and tell them it's the same idea:

http://www.shorty.com/bonsaikitten/

Note: The website is not real. It was made by a troll many years ago and continues to pop up from time to time.

That's cute

- you should post it in the lounge!

**fishman9809** · 03-08-2008, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishscale

You should post this up in the store and tell them it's the same idea:

http://www.shorty.com/bonsaikitten/

Note: The website is not real. It was made by a troll many years ago and continues to pop up from time to time.

It may be fake, but it is still sick

loachlady5 · 03-08-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fishman9809

It may be fake, but it is still sick

There will probably be some freak who actually looks at the site and decides to try it

**fishman9809** · 03-08-2008, 08:02 PM

yeah, that's true, some moron

valerietheangel · 03-10-2008, 03:21 AM

The bonsai kitten site was actually created by a couple of MIT students several years ago (it was a huge topic of debate in one of my high school biology classes). And the second picture of the arapaima that was posted by bra_van_drakh is actually a Wel's catfish, they're found in Europe, that one was caught in Italy.

NeverEndingNinja · 03-10-2008, 05:14 AM

Valerie, he stated that the Arapaima was the only fish that exceeded the size of those catfish.

**fishscale** · 03-10-2008, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BiscuitSlayer

I used to have a friend that had two snakeheads. He kept them in a 180 gallon tank each.

They are the only fish that I have ever seen that appear to kill for sport. These things are vicious and formidable. They would absolutely wreak havoc in the wild. I could easily see a small number of them annihilating trout, bass, sunfish, etc. in an American body of water.

On another note, I have seen pictures of people catching arowanas here in Georgia. One guy on Lake Lanier (about 45 minutes north of Atlanta) caught one last year that was about 3 feet.

http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/reports/108373.htm

People have got to stop releasing these things in the wild. The negative impact won’t be felt until it is too late.

They need to release some asian arowanas so that we can start keeping them

I'm kidding, of course. It's pretty hard to get people to stop releasing stuff like this in the wild. I remember hearing stories about people releasing tons of exotic fish in a stream near a zoo, and some people who wanted p-bass would just cast off the side.

Snakeheads are pretty vicious. I have seen one pulled out of the water, gutted, in a bucket, only to flop out of the boat and swim away. There are, however, many species of Channa that are really quite gorgeous, and it is a shame that they are not allowed. It's the only way, but I'm sure they will still find their way here, just as piranha find their way to aquariums in states that don't allow them.

**jaidexl** · 04-06-2008, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lauraleellbp

Excellent post!

Holy cow, I have NEVER seen a clown loach like that! I've seen big ones, but that one makes the term "morbidly obese" like an understatment!!!

Stop by boardroom sometime. Rich usually has a few like that in the big planted entrance tank that usually holds rainbows. My jaw dropped last week, looking at one of the new ones... MONSTER LOACH!

**lauraleellbp** · 04-06-2008, 10:56 PM

Yeah I'm going to have to make a road trip of it and head up that way sometime- it's off of 41 near Bonita, right?

**jaidexl** · 04-06-2008, 11:05 PM

Farther north in Ft. myers, on the back corner of the road where olive garden is (12795 Kenwood Lane). Make a left there and drive straight back, big angelfish painted in the window. Don't expect more than a small family owned type place, they're good people though and have lots of dedicated customers. Some killer huge pieces of driftwood as well, an entire bin of it.

aznkonner · 04-07-2008, 07:54 AM

that clown loach is huge. the biggest i've seen was only about half that size. how old is that thing? mine are already 5 years old and is like the size if its' tail!

oh yea and the tin foil pic isn't that great to show size. i've seen some HUGE ONES in petshops. those are the sizes that they sell at the asian markets :p

half of the popular plecos should be on here. I have some right now that are around 8 inches and still have a long ways to grow. the common sail fin pleco is one that outgrows a tank easily too. i sadly lost mine at around 14 inches. beautiful specimen for a cheap pleco but be ready to feed and grow those guys.

and i know this seems weird but i think angelfish should be put on there as well. i know they dont' grow THAT big but people tend to buy them and put them in 10 gallon or 5 gallon tanks way too often. angels need at least a 60 or maybe a 40 tall or something. they love the height and way too often i see huge angelfish in small tanks.

many people think that fish will only grow as big as the tank they are given. however, that is not true. some fish like the pacu will continue to grow (given good water conditions) reguardless of how big the tank is. scientists did an experiement where they take salmon and put them in a small tank with clean water coming in at all times. the salmon grown in the tank grew until they looked like sardines. i think some fish like the common goldfish will grow less or very slowly if given a small tank. however goldfish are the exception not the rule.

**BiscuitSlayer** · 04-07-2008, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by fishscale

They need to release some asian arowanas so that we can start keeping them

I wouldn't be surprised if the one I linked to was eaten by a Georgia fisherman. They could probably release arowanas (or whatever) and it would wind up on dinner plates down here. LOL

Raimeiken · 04-07-2008, 09:22 AM

big chain petstores dont care about how big they get, as long as they're making money they'll keep selling them.

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03-08-2008, 02:02 PM	#46 (permalink)
Blue Ridge Reef I do stuff (View User Tanks) PTrader: (3) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 551	My issue with oscars is even people who know they get large either think they won't grow that large in a smaller tank, or that it will take them years to outgrow their tank. They grow FAST, and they suffer from poor water quality in ways that novices won't notice. I only have room for a few display tanks in my space. I really don't see taking up a whole 125 just to put a big oscar in as a "warning."

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valerietheangel Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: O'Fallon, MO Posts: 168	The bonsai kitten site was actually created by a couple of MIT students several years ago (it was a huge topic of debate in one of my high school biology classes). And the second picture of the arapaima that was posted by bra_van_drakh is actually a Wel's catfish, they're found in Europe, that one was caught in Italy.

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NeverEndingNinja Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (2) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fairhope, AL Posts: 312	Valerie, he stated that the Arapaima was the only fish that exceeded the size of those catfish.

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jaidexl Custom User (View User Tanks) PTrader: (33) Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 33919 Posts: 2,358	Farther north in Ft. myers, on the back corner of the road where olive garden is (12795 Kenwood Lane). Make a left there and drive straight back, big angelfish painted in the window. Don't expect more than a small family owned type place, they're good people though and have lots of dedicated customers. Some killer huge pieces of driftwood as well, an entire bin of it.

04-07-2008, 07:54 AM	#58 (permalink)
aznkonner Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (2) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: los angeles, ca Posts: 261	that clown loach is huge. the biggest i've seen was only about half that size. how old is that thing? mine are already 5 years old and is like the size if its' tail! oh yea and the tin foil pic isn't that great to show size. i've seen some HUGE ONES in petshops. those are the sizes that they sell at the asian markets :p half of the popular plecos should be on here. I have some right now that are around 8 inches and still have a long ways to grow. the common sail fin pleco is one that outgrows a tank easily too. i sadly lost mine at around 14 inches. beautiful specimen for a cheap pleco but be ready to feed and grow those guys. and i know this seems weird but i think angelfish should be put on there as well. i know they dont' grow THAT big but people tend to buy them and put them in 10 gallon or 5 gallon tanks way too often. angels need at least a 60 or maybe a 40 tall or something. they love the height and way too often i see huge angelfish in small tanks. many people think that fish will only grow as big as the tank they are given. however, that is not true. some fish like the pacu will continue to grow (given good water conditions) reguardless of how big the tank is. scientists did an experiement where they take salmon and put them in a small tank with clean water coming in at all times. the salmon grown in the tank grew until they looked like sardines. i think some fish like the common goldfish will grow less or very slowly if given a small tank. however goldfish are the exception not the rule.

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Raimeiken Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (13) Join Date: May 2004 Location: glendale, arizona Posts: 271	big chain petstores dont care about how big they get, as long as they're making money they'll keep selling them.

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