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SeaSerpant · 03-31-2008, 05:07 PM

Well i came apon a problem namely a not so impulsed but impulsed buy. i bought 4 danio here is my new list for my 70g:
6 zebra danios
6 black skirt tetras
6 glassfish
4 angelfish
3 african dwarf frogs
6 black kuhli loaches
1 or 2 farrowellas or a bunch of otos (which would be better. i'm probably going with farrowella)
2 powder blue dwarf gouramis

would my new list work? what would you do with it? i have an albino pleco that i'm selling on wednesday. yay no more major poopage until i get the farrowella maybe the same day.

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aznkonner · 03-31-2008, 06:41 PM

well for ur question about shrimp i think the frogs would definitly eat the shrimp as well as anything else that gets in their mouths. if you like the frogs i say throw them in another tank or make somethign to seperate them. the fin nipping can cause lots of stress for the fish and can kill smaller fish eventually. i had a dwarf puffer and he would nip the fins of my roselines and they would be ok. but i would once in a while get a death among my rummy nose and cardinal tetras. at first i thought it was water quality but got the lfs to check and they said all water parameters are top notch.

either way by looking at it a 70 should be able to hold ur stock list as long as you have a good filter. i have a 70 gallon tank with 1 goldy pleco (subadult 8 inches), 1 royal pleco (8 inches), 4 L114 or lepord cactus (all between 6-8 inches), 3 albino bushynose (4-5 in) and about 9 or 10 clown loaches (4-6 inches) the hardscape is a bunch of wood with lots of hiding places so everyone has their territory. it only works for me without deaths is because i got a wetdry rated for 200 gallons using a pump cycles my tank maybe 20 times an hour and an aquaclear 110 (rated for 60+ i think) and i have a water pump that gives a nice flow for my fish

i've been debating on wither or not i should add more filtration.

ok so final word. bioload can be fixed with huge filtration however there's comes a time where the filtration becoems too much (meaning the water flow too strong for the fish) and the fish will get stressed and die. then there's stress levels of fish. more fish = more stress level. you can alleviate this by adding lots of plants and hiding places etc but there's also a limit to that as well. so with what you have i think ur fine. just make sure the frogs mouths don't outgrow any fish (and they should be outgrowing the danios quickly) or else ur gonna be missing some fish. and just letting you know as well canister filters do wonders for keeping water clear.

SeaSerpant · 03-31-2008, 08:31 PM

Oh i did some research on my frogs. they may nip at fins but will not grow any larger.

SeaSerpant · 03-31-2008, 10:37 PM

Refering to my last list. what would be better 2 farrowellas or a whack load of otos?

NeverEndingNinja · 03-31-2008, 11:07 PM

otos.

03-31-2008, 05:07 PM	#31 (permalink)
SeaSerpant Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 733	Well i came apon a problem namely a not so impulsed but impulsed buy. i bought 4 danio here is my new list for my 70g: 6 zebra danios 6 black skirt tetras 6 glassfish 4 angelfish 3 african dwarf frogs 6 black kuhli loaches 1 or 2 farrowellas or a bunch of otos (which would be better. i'm probably going with farrowella) 2 powder blue dwarf gouramis would my new list work? what would you do with it? i have an albino pleco that i'm selling on wednesday. yay no more major poopage until i get the farrowella maybe the same day. __________________

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SeaSerpant Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 733	Oh i did some research on my frogs. they may nip at fins but will not grow any larger. __________________

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SeaSerpant Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 733	Refering to my last list. what would be better 2 farrowellas or a whack load of otos? __________________

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03-31-2008, 06:41 PM	#32 (permalink)
aznkonner Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (2) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: los angeles, ca Posts: 208	well for ur question about shrimp i think the frogs would definitly eat the shrimp as well as anything else that gets in their mouths. if you like the frogs i say throw them in another tank or make somethign to seperate them. the fin nipping can cause lots of stress for the fish and can kill smaller fish eventually. i had a dwarf puffer and he would nip the fins of my roselines and they would be ok. but i would once in a while get a death among my rummy nose and cardinal tetras. at first i thought it was water quality but got the lfs to check and they said all water parameters are top notch. either way by looking at it a 70 should be able to hold ur stock list as long as you have a good filter. i have a 70 gallon tank with 1 goldy pleco (subadult 8 inches), 1 royal pleco (8 inches), 4 L114 or lepord cactus (all between 6-8 inches), 3 albino bushynose (4-5 in) and about 9 or 10 clown loaches (4-6 inches) the hardscape is a bunch of wood with lots of hiding places so everyone has their territory. it only works for me without deaths is because i got a wetdry rated for 200 gallons using a pump cycles my tank maybe 20 times an hour and an aquaclear 110 (rated for 60+ i think) and i have a water pump that gives a nice flow for my fish i've been debating on wither or not i should add more filtration. ok so final word. bioload can be fixed with huge filtration however there's comes a time where the filtration becoems too much (meaning the water flow too strong for the fish) and the fish will get stressed and die. then there's stress levels of fish. more fish = more stress level. you can alleviate this by adding lots of plants and hiding places etc but there's also a limit to that as well. so with what you have i think ur fine. just make sure the frogs mouths don't outgrow any fish (and they should be outgrowing the danios quickly) or else ur gonna be missing some fish. and just letting you know as well canister filters do wonders for keeping water clear.

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