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SeaSerpant · 02-26-2008, 01:42 AM

i think you might be talking about african clawed dwarf frogs.

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frogmanjared · 02-26-2008, 01:54 AM

Dwarf clawed frogs, and African Dwarf clawed frogs are the same thing... just different common names for the same animals. There are 3 species or so that are in the pet trade, and all originate from Africa. I'm just telling you that if you see a part of a fin missing, you know who the culprit was.

valerietheangel · 02-27-2008, 12:51 AM

I'd keep the number of angels at or below 4. I have 4 black adult angels in a 55 (I raised them from quarter sized "pups"). Two have paired off and get very nippy with the other two and I always see frayed fins when two of the males try to fight for the female's attention. Also, angels love water changes, we do 50% weekly changes on that tank. There's nothing sadder than seeing a beautiful, full grown angel with hole in the head.

ETA I would exnay the frogs too. Kuhli loaches look a lot like worms and I bet the frogs would LOVE to go after them. A friend had one of the "African Clawed frogs" and it grew to be almost fist sized and ate all of her other fish!

SeaSerpant · 02-27-2008, 12:59 AM

ya i know about them clawed frogs but african dwarf frogs only grow to about a bit over a nickel. i do about 30% water changes weekly but usually 40-50%. i like to keep my tank nice and healthy. i'm going to keep the number of angels at 4.

SeaSerpant · 02-27-2008, 01:01 AM

oh ya, the second list is my stocking list now. and apparently it will work.

**fishscale** · 02-27-2008, 10:06 PM

That is the frog he is referring to. Size doesn't matter. Dwarf puffers, for example, are smaller than your thumbnail. They will still nip fins of fish several times their size.

In the end, what you do with your tank is your business.

SeaSerpant · 02-28-2008, 12:58 AM

ya but it's others when they get to know it

i don't think my frogs will try and eat my loaches because the loach would probably end up killing the frog

**lauraleellbp** · 02-28-2008, 01:18 AM

Sea- another reason many ppl don't favor keeping frogs in the same tank with fish is that most frogs poop like mad dogs- really high bioload makes it hard to keep the water parameters where they should be w/out some killer filtration...

SeaSerpant · 02-28-2008, 01:19 AM

oh really. guess i'll half to buy a better filter then.

**lauraleellbp** · 02-28-2008, 01:27 AM

LOL how'd I know you'd say that?

At the point you can run both filters on there, if the frogs aren't too big, you'll prolly be OK

SeaSerpant · 02-28-2008, 04:26 PM

their only nickel sized so i think it'll be ok.

newshound · 02-28-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SeaSerpant

ya thats why i'm in the basement and living with my parents (i'm only 13) and because i have a 70g sitting in my garage and i can basically totally redo everything.

o no another tank...careful it is a slippery slope

SeaSerpant · 02-28-2008, 05:00 PM

yep another lol. i am going to end up with one 70g FW tank and one 70g SW tank with a 60g sump so basically a 130g SW tank. and soon enough i'm going to have to buy a nursery.

SeaSerpant · 03-16-2008, 10:43 PM

ok if i wanted any shrimp would they get eaten?

**lauraleellbp** · 03-16-2008, 11:16 PM

I would say that your angels and gouramis are likely to eat shrimp, maybe even adult shrimp.

02-26-2008, 01:54 AM	#17 (permalink)
frogmanjared Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 76	Dwarf clawed frogs, and African Dwarf clawed frogs are the same thing... just different common names for the same animals. There are 3 species or so that are in the pet trade, and all originate from Africa. I'm just telling you that if you see a part of a fin missing, you know who the culprit was. __________________ http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh272/frogmanjared/ Before you buy: http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/fi...pic-heavy.html

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fishscale duckweed. it's bad, mmk. (View User Tanks) PTrader: (10) Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 3,222	That is the frog he is referring to. Size doesn't matter. Dwarf puffers, for example, are smaller than your thumbnail. They will still nip fins of fish several times their size. In the end, what you do with your tank is your business. __________________ Eheim Pimp #254, Eheim Wolverine #1 55 Gallon Work in progress 10 Gallon Shrimp Tank 10 Gallon Planted QT 20 Gallon Shrimp Tank (Work in progress)

02-28-2008, 01:18 AM	#23 (permalink)
lauraleellbp Fresh Fish Freak (View User Tanks) PTrader: (11) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 4,282	Sea- another reason many ppl don't favor keeping frogs in the same tank with fish is that most frogs poop like mad dogs- really high bioload makes it hard to keep the water parameters where they should be w/out some killer filtration... __________________ Laura Lee; 10gal planted RCS colony, 46gal FW community w/ el plasticos, 90gal FW planted in progress- see my journal at http://forums.tfhmagazine.com/viewto...p?f=82&t=23207

02-28-2008, 01:27 AM	#25 (permalink)
lauraleellbp Fresh Fish Freak (View User Tanks) PTrader: (11) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 4,282	LOL how'd I know you'd say that? At the point you can run both filters on there, if the frogs aren't too big, you'll prolly be OK __________________ Laura Lee; 10gal planted RCS colony, 46gal FW community w/ el plasticos, 90gal FW planted in progress- see my journal at http://forums.tfhmagazine.com/viewto...p?f=82&t=23207

03-16-2008, 11:16 PM	#30 (permalink)
lauraleellbp Fresh Fish Freak (View User Tanks) PTrader: (11) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 4,282	I would say that your angels and gouramis are likely to eat shrimp, maybe even adult shrimp. __________________ Laura Lee; 10gal planted RCS colony, 46gal FW community w/ el plasticos, 90gal FW planted in progress- see my journal at http://forums.tfhmagazine.com/viewto...p?f=82&t=23207

02-26-2008, 01:42 AM	#16 (permalink)
SeaSerpant Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 733	i think you might be talking about african clawed dwarf frogs.

02-27-2008, 12:51 AM	#18 (permalink)
valerietheangel Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: O'Fallon, MO Posts: 117	I'd keep the number of angels at or below 4. I have 4 black adult angels in a 55 (I raised them from quarter sized "pups"). Two have paired off and get very nippy with the other two and I always see frayed fins when two of the males try to fight for the female's attention. Also, angels love water changes, we do 50% weekly changes on that tank. There's nothing sadder than seeing a beautiful, full grown angel with hole in the head. ETA I would exnay the frogs too. Kuhli loaches look a lot like worms and I bet the frogs would LOVE to go after them. A friend had one of the "African Clawed frogs" and it grew to be almost fist sized and ate all of her other fish!

02-27-2008, 12:59 AM	#19 (permalink)
SeaSerpant Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 733	ya i know about them clawed frogs but african dwarf frogs only grow to about a bit over a nickel. i do about 30% water changes weekly but usually 40-50%. i like to keep my tank nice and healthy. i'm going to keep the number of angels at 4.

02-27-2008, 01:01 AM	#20 (permalink)
SeaSerpant Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 733	oh ya, the second list is my stocking list now. and apparently it will work.

02-28-2008, 12:58 AM	#22 (permalink)
SeaSerpant Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 733	ya but it's others when they get to know it i don't think my frogs will try and eat my loaches because the loach would probably end up killing the frog

02-28-2008, 01:19 AM	#24 (permalink)
SeaSerpant Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 733	oh really. guess i'll half to buy a better filter then.

02-28-2008, 04:26 PM	#26 (permalink)
SeaSerpant Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 733	their only nickel sized so i think it'll be ok.

02-28-2008, 05:00 PM	#28 (permalink)
SeaSerpant Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 733	yep another lol. i am going to end up with one 70g FW tank and one 70g SW tank with a 60g sump so basically a 130g SW tank. and soon enough i'm going to have to buy a nursery.

03-16-2008, 10:43 PM	#29 (permalink)
SeaSerpant Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 733	ok if i wanted any shrimp would they get eaten?