good discus supplier/breeder?

[adamjh]

Can anyone recommend a good place to buy discus? I'm looking to get some discus that are about 2 inches and let them "grow up" together in the tank. I might even try my hand at getting them to breed. There are so many places that sell discus fish online. I don't know which to really consider.

Your input is greatly appreciated!

[kotoeloncat]

I always get mine from discus madness

Discus Madness: Discus Fish Breeder i think its the site

the owner Mathias is always very helpful and very friendly when you have questions

[crazie.eddie]

oops. Double posted

[crazie.eddie]

I like to buy from local breeders, so I can pick the ones I like and watch them eat and stuff. I've never bought any discus online, but I have heard good things about these two:

Gulf Coast Discus
Gold Mountain Discus

Gold Mountain has a nice guarantee.

[DiabloCanine]

Originally Posted by adamjh

Can anyone recommend a good place to buy discus? I'm looking to get some discus that are about 2 inches and let them "grow up" together in the tank. I might even try my hand at getting them to breed. There are so many places that sell discus fish online. I don't know which to really consider.

Your input is greatly appreciated!

RMC, he is a member here and where I got all my Discus from....DC

[adamjh]

Thanks, everyone, for all the input.

Now I have another question:

Do you think it is feasible to buy some young discus (say 1.5 to 2 inches) grow them up together, and then expect them to breed later on (or at least be able to induce breeding)?

[LS6 Tommy]

Originally Posted by kotoeloncat

I always get mine from discus madness

Discus Madness: Discus Fish Breeder i think its the site

the owner Mathias is always very helpful and very friendly when you have questions

Ditto. Mathias is "Da Man". I got my last 3 Discus directly from him at his house. He also was the guy that turned me on to dosing Excel to help control algae.

Tommy

[crazie.eddie]

Originally Posted by adamjh

Thanks, everyone, for all the input.

Now I have another question:

Do you think it is feasible to buy some young discus (say 1.5 to 2 inches) grow them up together, and then expect them to breed later on (or at least be able to induce breeding)?

What size tank are we talking about here? It's best to keep discus in a large group, since they seem to do very well together.

Discus at that size should be kept in a tank (preferably bare bottom) by themselves, with the exception of a few bottom feeders. Young discus need plenty of food and clean water in order to grow into healthy, mature fish.

With a large group of adults, mating may occur and just becuase you have males and females in the same tank, doesn't mean they will always mate.

Although discus can be kept in normal tap water, hard or soft, but when breeding discus, you should keep them in soft water. Although, I've heard some rare instances where they have been bred in normal, hard water.

[adamjh]

Originally Posted by crazie.eddie

What size tank are we talking about here? It's best to keep discus in a large group, since they seem to do very well together.

Discus at that size should be kept in a tank (preferably bare bottom) by themselves, with the exception of a few bottom feeders. Young discus need plenty of food and clean water in order to grow into healthy, mature fish.

With a large group of adults, mating may occur and just becuase you have males and females in the same tank, doesn't mean they will always mate.

Although discus can be kept in normal tap water, hard or soft, but when breeding discus, you should keep them in soft water. Although, I've heard some rare instances where they have been bred in normal, hard water.

This is a 75 gal planted tank. It already has ~35 cardinal tetras, 4 corydoras, 3 otos and 5 SAEs. The water parameters are currently as follows: GH=14, KH=3 to 4, pH=6.7 (using a pH controller with CO2 injection). However, I have recently brought my RO unit back to life (it has been down since I stopped doing the reef tank thing) and will so be using RO water to bring my GH down to the 4 to 8 range.

Do you think I should get them at a more adult size? If I get them when they are that old, will I still have as good a chance at breeding them compared to getting them younger and letting them grow up together?

[DiabloCanine]

Originally Posted by adamjh

However, I have recently brought my RO unit back to life (it has been down since I stopped doing the reef tank thing) and will so be using RO water to bring my GH down to the 4 to 8 range.

Do you think I should get them at a more adult size? If I get them when they are that old, will I still have as good a chance at breeding them compared to getting them younger and letting them grow up together?

I think you should contact RMC, you can PM him here, reach him through his banner in my sig, or look for him at aquabid. He has some beauties you might be able to talk him out of, or he will be importing more soon after the Amazon catch this year (just keep in mind, I have dibs on the heckels). Low TDS is the key with Discus, if you do not already have one get a Hanna TDS meter. Adults thrive in RO, sub-adults or adults are the best to start with.....DC

[adamjh]

Originally Posted by DiabloCanine

I think you should contact RMC, you can PM him here, reach him through his banner in my sig, or look for him at aquabid. He has some beauties you might be able to talk him out of, or he will be importing more soon after the Amazon catch this year (just keep in mind, I have dibs on the heckels). Low TDS is the key with Discus, if you do not already have one get a Hanna TDS meter. Adults thrive in RO, sub-adults or adults are the best to start with.....DC

I have PM'd RMC. And I'll keep your heckel dibs in mind. I have ordered a handheld TDS meter (should be here any day now) and have an in-line TDS meter on my RO unit. How would you classify sub-adult and adult discus based on their size? Have you ever had any luck with breeding them?

Edit: Just got my handheld TDS meter. Looks like my tank currently has ~600 ppm TDS!

[crazie.eddie]

Since it will be your first discus, go with the common turqs, cobalts, etc. Heckels are from the wild and will cost more. You should be able to buy a couple of turqs for a price of a heckel.

[DiabloCanine]

Originally Posted by adamjh

I have PM'd RMC. And I'll keep your heckel dibs in mind. I have ordered a handheld TDS meter (should be here any day now) and have an in-line TDS meter on my RO unit. How would you classify sub-adult and adult discus based on their size? Have you ever had any luck with breeding them?

Edit: Just got my handheld TDS meter. Looks like my tank currently has ~600 ppm TDS!

I am wanting RMC to get me some heckels, was just kidding about the dibs. I only keep wilds now, I have found they are hardier than domestics and act more like cichlids. Mine have not paired off yet, I do not care if they do or not. Size will help classify age. I keep my TDS at less than 200, am turning the tank water over weekly now. Better fire up the RO unit to get that TDS down. I'l let RMC know you PMed him....DC

[adamjh]

Originally Posted by DiabloCanine

I'll let RMC know you PMed him....DC

Thanks, DC!

Originally Posted by DiabloCanine

I only keep wilds now, I have found they are hardier than domestics and act more like cichlids.

What do you mean when you say they act more like cichlids? More aggressive? Responsive to your presence?

[DiabloCanine]

Originally Posted by adamjh

Thanks, DC!




What do you mean when you say they act more like cichlids? More aggressive? Responsive to your presence?

More aggressive, they pack hunt and have tudes.......DC