Name confusion with rams

bellisb925 · 03-01-2005, 04:11 AM

I am having difficulty with the following. German Ram, German blue ram, blue ram. Are they all the same? If they are different, could someone attach some latin names to them. I do know that one of them is M. ramirezi.

yznj99 · 03-01-2005, 04:34 AM

I think they are the same, german ram are breeded by Germans?

But according to my local LFS owner, best rams are wild caught

BlackGhostKnife · 03-01-2005, 01:13 PM

The german blues are breed for their color.. and mainly nothing else.. do not mate as easy or well as wild blue rams.. =[.. which means either have them for show or breeding.. also german being raised and breed at such extremes.. from what i have read are more succeptable to being harder to keep alive..

**BlueRam** · 03-01-2005, 05:04 PM

bellisb925:

You have it right with M. ramirezi. There are a lot of varieties breed though (just like angelfish, goldfish, bettas... one scientific name many types). So you have wilds, blues or Germans from when they were imported, golds, balloon, long fin and I am sure several others. I prefer "stock" rams with normal fins and decent coloring. Beware of anything wild as there is a good chance they have parasites (think discus, angels) and should be treated/quarantined fully.

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bellisb925 Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Belmont, CA USA Posts: 175	Name confusion with rams I am having difficulty with the following. German Ram, German blue ram, blue ram. Are they all the same? If they are different, could someone attach some latin names to them. I do know that one of them is M. ramirezi.

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BlueRam Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,660	bellisb925: You have it right with M. ramirezi. There are a lot of varieties breed though (just like angelfish, goldfish, bettas... one scientific name many types). So you have wilds, blues or Germans from when they were imported, golds, balloon, long fin and I am sure several others. I prefer "stock" rams with normal fins and decent coloring. Beware of anything wild as there is a good chance they have parasites (think discus, angels) and should be treated/quarantined fully. __________________ Greater Seattle Aquarium Society Member (GSAS.org) Plant Auction February 12th, General Auction April 12th Community 60 gal T8 +CO2 +sump. Clown Barbs 75 gal T8 +sump Goodeidae project 20Long PC

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03-01-2005, 04:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
yznj99 Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Central NJ Posts: 175	I think they are the same, german ram are breeded by Germans? But according to my local LFS owner, best rams are wild caught

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BlackGhostKnife Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Greenwood, South Carolina Posts: 80	The german blues are breed for their color.. and mainly nothing else.. do not mate as easy or well as wild blue rams.. =[.. which means either have them for show or breeding.. also german being raised and breed at such extremes.. from what i have read are more succeptable to being harder to keep alive..

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