Where did all this color come from?

**waterfaller1** · 08-04-2009, 08:05 PM

All of the sudden in the last two days my tank burst out in intense red coloration. I stopped dosing pretty much, a while back. All I do is pull thethread algae out when it's present, and skim the surface and replace the water. I change my diffuser weekly, and have been keeping the filter very clean.
So where did all this color come from?

**dewalltheway** · 08-04-2009, 08:18 PM

Looks great! When you find out..let me know. I have been trying to get my reds to come out and can't. The only thing I can think of is that the nitrates have dropped and the phosphates have stayed the same from the food you give to your fish which would possible bring more red out. I had a thread recently asking how to get the red plants red and one idea was to lower nitrates and increase phosphates. Be careful though that you don't start seeing nitrate defiencies (spelling?)

**macclellan** · 08-04-2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by waterfaller1

So where did all this color come from?

Low nitrates.

The H. zosterfolia looks deficient. Mine really sucks in nitrates and iron, it yellows within a day or two when it is deficient. Great nutrient indicator plant.

Lean ferts can be good, but no ferts is bad in a co2-injected tank, IMHO.

**bsmith** · 08-04-2009, 08:41 PM

What kind of light do you have on that tank and what size tank is it. Have you tested nitrates?

**waterfaller1** · 08-04-2009, 10:11 PM

Hmmm..judging from the amount of gsa I had to clean off the glass before this photo I wouldn't say the nitrates are too low. I will test tomorrow. I do dose here and there, just not on any schedule like every day. The tank is a 20 L, lighting is 2 X coralife T-5 30" fixtures. I believe the bulbs are 18 wts each..let me look lol. Don't get old... memory goes.

Yes,2 colormax and 2 10K 18 wt bulbs

**waterfaller1** · 08-04-2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by macclellan

Low nitrates.

The H. zosterfolia looks deficient. .

I have this plant? Which one is it? Geez...I don't recall ever getting it, or is that the proper name for something I know by a common name?

**fishman9809** · 08-04-2009, 10:36 PM

stargrass is heteranthera zosterifolia

**waterfaller1** · 08-04-2009, 10:45 PM

I know I don't have stargrass, got rid of it a long time ago. Are you talking about the plant in the middle, the green one? I forget what you call it, I got it from Bigstick120..hmm..I know 'green' is part of the name. Anyway.. maybe I'll dose..tomorrow

**waterfaller1** · 08-04-2009, 11:03 PM

I remembered..rotala 'green'.

**macclellan** · 08-04-2009, 11:10 PM

What does GSA have to do with nitrates?

You sure that's R. green? R. green is like 1" width. What you have there looks quite big, like H. zosterfolia, 2-3".
Anyways, R. green or H. zosterfolia, they both grow fast and show same symptoms.

**rich815** · 08-04-2009, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by waterfaller1

I know I don't have stargrass, got rid of it a long time ago. Are you talking about the plant in the middle, the green one? I forget what you call it, I got it from Bigstick120..hmm..I know 'green' is part of the name. Anyway.. maybe I'll dose..tomorrow

My GSA is more effected by light levels and photoperiod length than nitrate levels myself.

**waterfaller1** · 08-04-2009, 11:20 PM

I was going by this, this came from miss Drinda-Texgal

cure for thread algae
1. 50% water change.
2. Discontinue fertilizing altogether.
3. Every day for 1 week add 1 gram of Kno3 every 50 gallons until there begin to appear GSA.
4. CO2 increase the maximum allowable by the aquarium (at least 35 ppm).
5. Not diminish the lighting.
6. Do not modify other variables.
7. Manually remove the algae
8. When the issue is solved or after 7 days, 50% water change.
9. The amount of Kno3 you needed to achieve the GSA will be the amount you will use as fertilizing per week.
10. About the others fertilizers, use 30% of the dose you were using

**waterfaller1** · 08-05-2009, 12:40 AM

One other thing changed, if it makes a difference. last time I cleaned the filter I took out the Purigen and did not replace it. I think the plants might be getting nutrients from the 1 million fish I have in this tank.

**bsmith** · 08-05-2009, 02:13 AM

The plant in question looks like rotala maccandra 'green'.

Green

What kind of light is on the tank?

**waterfaller1** · 08-05-2009, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waterfaller1

The tank is a 20 L, lighting is 2 X coralife T-5 30" fixtures...,2 colormax and 2 10K 18 wt bulbs

here

I think I would rather have a little deficiency than gobs of algae.

08-04-2009, 08:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
waterfaller1 Aquatic Artist (View User Tanks) PTrader: (50/100%) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 4,084	Where did all this color come from? All of the sudden in the last two days my tank burst out in intense red coloration. I stopped dosing pretty much, a while back. All I do is pull thethread algae out when it's present, and skim the surface and replace the water. I change my diffuser weekly, and have been keeping the filter very clean. So where did all this color come from? __________________ Orlando from GLA has class Keep smiling~Carole

08-04-2009, 08:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
dewalltheway Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (93/100%) Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,209	Looks great! When you find out..let me know. I have been trying to get my reds to come out and can't. The only thing I can think of is that the nitrates have dropped and the phosphates have stayed the same from the food you give to your fish which would possible bring more red out. I had a thread recently asking how to get the red plants red and one idea was to lower nitrates and increase phosphates. Be careful though that you don't start seeing nitrate defiencies (spelling?) __________________ Journals: Tranquility ~~~~ L'arbre Sous L'eau ~~~~ Les Collines Rouges ~~~~ Restful Hideaway Riparium

08-04-2009, 08:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
bsmith Found in my toilet (View User Tanks) PTrader: (164/100%) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: St.Louis, MO Posts: 4,588	What kind of light do you have on that tank and what size tank is it. Have you tested nitrates? __________________ FilStar proponent #91 XP1 & XP3 I have a 2213 and a 2222 too, my Eheim # is 299. What now? VP Member #4 "Regulator's Mount Up" VTS-253A Mini-M Agent #007 My 37 Cube and Mini-M L183's

08-04-2009, 10:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
waterfaller1 Aquatic Artist (View User Tanks) PTrader: (50/100%) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 4,084	Hmmm..judging from the amount of gsa I had to clean off the glass before this photo I wouldn't say the nitrates are too low. I will test tomorrow. I do dose here and there, just not on any schedule like every day. The tank is a 20 L, lighting is 2 X coralife T-5 30" fixtures. I believe the bulbs are 18 wts each..let me look lol. Don't get old... memory goes. Yes,2 colormax and 2 10K 18 wt bulbs __________________ Orlando from GLA has class Keep smiling~Carole

08-04-2009, 10:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
fishman9809 What's the point? (View User Tanks) PTrader: (29/100%) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pandora Posts: 3,980	stargrass is heteranthera zosterifolia __________________ Eheim Pimp #300 - Eheim 2213 and 2215 Fluval Pimp #6 - Fluval 204 "Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the Comedian is the only thing that makes sense"

08-04-2009, 10:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
waterfaller1 Aquatic Artist (View User Tanks) PTrader: (50/100%) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 4,084	I know I don't have stargrass, got rid of it a long time ago. Are you talking about the plant in the middle, the green one? I forget what you call it, I got it from Bigstick120..hmm..I know 'green' is part of the name. Anyway.. maybe I'll dose..tomorrow __________________ Orlando from GLA has class Keep smiling~Carole

08-04-2009, 11:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
waterfaller1 Aquatic Artist (View User Tanks) PTrader: (50/100%) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 4,084	I remembered..rotala 'green'. __________________ Orlando from GLA has class Keep smiling~Carole

08-04-2009, 11:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
macclellan Pastafarian (View User Tanks) PTrader: (160/99%) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 37909 Posts: 3,289	What does GSA have to do with nitrates? You sure that's R. green? R. green is like 1" width. What you have there looks quite big, like H. zosterfolia, 2-3". Anyways, R. green or H. zosterfolia, they both grow fast and show same symptoms. __________________ Metapimp #1 (and only) - because somebody has to keep all these pimps in check.

08-04-2009, 11:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
waterfaller1 Aquatic Artist (View User Tanks) PTrader: (50/100%) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 4,084	I was going by this, this came from miss Drinda-Texgal cure for thread algae 1. 50% water change. 2. Discontinue fertilizing altogether. 3. Every day for 1 week add 1 gram of Kno3 every 50 gallons until there begin to appear GSA. 4. CO2 increase the maximum allowable by the aquarium (at least 35 ppm). 5. Not diminish the lighting. 6. Do not modify other variables. 7. Manually remove the algae 8. When the issue is solved or after 7 days, 50% water change. 9. The amount of Kno3 you needed to achieve the GSA will be the amount you will use as fertilizing per week. 10. About the others fertilizers, use 30% of the dose you were using __________________ Orlando from GLA has class Keep smiling~Carole

08-05-2009, 12:40 AM	#13 (permalink)
waterfaller1 Aquatic Artist (View User Tanks) PTrader: (50/100%) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 4,084	One other thing changed, if it makes a difference. last time I cleaned the filter I took out the Purigen and did not replace it. I think the plants might be getting nutrients from the 1 million fish I have in this tank. __________________ Orlando from GLA has class Keep smiling~Carole

08-05-2009, 02:13 AM	#14 (permalink)
bsmith Found in my toilet (View User Tanks) PTrader: (164/100%) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: St.Louis, MO Posts: 4,588	The plant in question looks like rotala maccandra 'green'. Green What kind of light is on the tank? __________________ FilStar proponent #91 XP1 & XP3 I have a 2213 and a 2222 too, my Eheim # is 299. What now? VP Member #4 "Regulator's Mount Up" VTS-253A Mini-M Agent #007 My 37 Cube and Mini-M L183's

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