VICTOR and DUAL STAGE REGULATOR PIMP CLUB (Helpful Information Links are on Page 1)

[Left C]

Originally Posted by Left C

You can order Victor chrome plated, high purity dual stage regulators through Michigan Reefers. Brass and chrome plated CGA-320 nipples and nuts are available too. Then you may need a post body kit.

Post Body Kits
SuMo Aquarium Regulators: http://sumoregulator.com/
Oregon Aqua Design: http://oregonaquadesign.vstore.ca/pr...e/co2-co2-kits


Max Inlet Pressure 3K psi
Max Outlet Pressure 40 psi

Manufactured by Victor

Model No. HPT272B-350 http://www.dmltrading.com.sg/documen...HPT270-280.pdf
Model No. HPT270B-250
Model No. SGT500-40-350-DK http://www.dmltrading.com.sg/documentation/SGT500.pdf
Model No. SGT500-40-4F-DK
Model No. SG1500-40-350-DK
Model No. GPT270B
Model No. GPT270-125-590-BV

Victor HPT270B-250
High Purity 2 Stage Regulators
These Regulators are recommended for the delivery of noncorrosive high purity gases and calibration mixtures used in gas chromatography and other sensitive laboratory equipment. They offer maximum control of delivery pressure regardless of fluctuations in cylinder pressure. Both diaphragms are stainless steel, which will not contaminate the gas stream and are highly resistant to inboard diffusion of atmospheric contaminants.

Features:
• Pure- Stainless steel diaphragms offer resistance to inboard diffusion of contaminants.
• Dependable- Kel-F seats and double inlet filtering offer longer life with less maintenance.
• Safe- External self-reseating relief valve provides maximum regulator protection.
• Durable- All components are chrome-plated giving long lasting durability and attractive appearance.

Thermadyne PDF: http://www.thermadyne.com/IM_Uploads...75_56-0874.pdf


Please send all questions about these regulators to the Michigan Reefers thread above.


Edit 3/26/09: I just got a PM from jaysreef at MichiganReefers.com. These Victor high purity dual stage regulators come with a brass CGA-320 fitting and a Swagelok reducing fitting to attach your regulator. The chrome CGA-320 fitting is extra cost.

Edit 3/29/09: Please note that the contact has been moved to the Michigan Reefers site.

I emailed Anwar asking him how many of these regulators that he has. He has ten left. Included in that ten are a few of the SGT500 chrome plated, forged stainless steel body, stainless steel diaphragms, dual stage regulators.

Anwar is the person that has the regulators that are for sale on the Michigan Reefers web site. His friend is the contact at Michigan Reefers.

[plantbrain]

Some comments might help folks here to better tweak their systems.
I use pipe thread compound vs teflon tape.
I use the shortest distance I can for the CO2 lines.
I use the best check valves I can find.
I use good CO2 line and minimize the length.
I clean the disc and CO2 diffuser equipment often.
I clean the filters often.
I take my time to maintain a good easy removal or the reg when swapping empty tanks
Add new gaskets often.

A good reg is a once a lifetime purchase.
If you have a cheapy, sell to a poor hobbyists in need, then upgrade when you can.

Make sure there are no weak links, great valves, etc for everything.

Now.........you have spent all this time and $$$ on the CO2..........and for what?

More CO2 stability?

Fair enough.

CO2 is important where you use it.

However, take one more step back.............light.
Are you driving the highest w/gal you can? Do you have HLD?

Less light = less CO2 demand = more stability, even with a cheesy low grade reg and CO2 system.

Do we need to have so much light?
At what cost?

My point is less to do with high vs low light, but rather, getting the most out a good CO2 system and making life easier and less stressful for fish.
More deaths occur at the hand of poor CO2 usage than any other single factor, never heard a single person killing their fish with KNO3 over dosing....... more light = more CO2 = more growth etc.

Most say they do not want that, so consider light into all this discussion as well and what you want to risk/ or what you want to do to reduce the risk.

This way you get more out of the system as a whole in relation to these other factors, not just a good CO2 regulator.

Regards,
Tom Barr

[wondabread]

Spoke to Anwar today and both of my regs shipped out - hopefully I'll have them for the weekend. Oh joyous day!

Anyone got an online lead on a stainless CGA 320 nut/nipple? Can't find any good sources that I can order online.

I found a few places that I can call - but I would like to see prices before I call anyone.

[Left C]

Stainless Steel or Chrome Plated Brass? I haven't searched for any stainless steel ones.

Anwar can probably install the one of your choice. He put a chrome plated brass one on for me. I had to wait a few extra days and it was $10 extra. The regulator looks better with the chrome nipple and nut than one with brass parts. He uses a Swagelow stainless steel 1/4" MPT x 1/8" reducer to connect the solenoid at no extra cost.

One the other hand, my local Victor dealer prefers for me to give him my regulator and have his Victor regulator repair guy swap the chrome CGA-320 chrome nipple and nut out. He won't even sell me one.

I've seen them on the web for sale though and I saved some sites, but the stupid Geek Squad zapped out my links when they zapped out 3 of my USB ports and most of the memory that was on my hard drive.

[wondabread]

I would prefer SS, but will settle for chrome plated depending on price. I found one place online that had a cost of about $15 for SS. I am going to make some phone calls tomorrow to see if I can find them local.

These regulators look snazzy - and I would have had Anwar do it, but I just didn't want to wait. I haven't really had to work too much lately and have found myself extremely bored.

I can't wait to get them!

[Left C]

I like the Victor high purity regulators sleek looks.

You know that these things are built like tanks and they should last a very long time.

[herns]

Left C,

My post body kit finally showed up today.



Please take a closer look on the 1/8" FPT x 1/8 MPT Elbow. It has a longer thread segment compared to the one you had shown. Would this be a problem?

The 2 check valves that I bought from Ebay is only around $9 shipping incl. GLA sells this type for I think, $11 a piece. I still have to get a JBJ bc in Ebay.

[Left C]

Originally Posted by herns

... Please take a closer look on the 1/8" FPT x 1/8 MPT Elbow. It has a longer thread segment compared to the one you had shown. Would this be a problem? ...

That is a very nice looking kit.

There are slightly different parts or a combination of parts to serve the same function.

That is why it took me a bit to make a parts list. I tried to find as many as I could, but I didn't find them all.

Sometimes there will only be one picture for an item, like the elbow here, but many different sizes are listed, but there isn't necessarily a picture for every elbow. That explains why my picture may be slightly different than what you actually get.

So, in answer to your question; your elbow should work just fine. Rex wouldn't send it if it wouldn't work, right?

[wondabread]

I just got all the prices for the SS nut/nipple and WOW are they expensive. It's about $40 for both before shipping. Let this be a lesson - if you buy from Anwar, let him do the nut/nipple for $10!

[Left C]

Probably $50 including shipping!

Do you have a Victor dealer and/or a welding supply company near you? They may be able to help you.

Those stock nipples are probably on very tight. Can you install your new ones without scratching them?

Will you post the link where you found the SS nipples and nuts?

[Left C]

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[wondabread]

All the local welding supply places are in the process or have already been taken over by Airgas. Their prices are not customer friendly! I believe Anwar uses chrome plated brass, but I wanted to check the SS prices, well, just because. All fittings are for CGA 320.

Chrome plated brass nipple:
http://www.airgas.com/browse/product...D&recIds=94048

Chrome plated brass nut:
http://www.airgas.com/browse/product...1&WT.svl=94051

Stainless nut:
http://www.airgas.com/browse/product...3&WT.svl=94053

Stainless nipple:
http://www.airgas.com/browse/product...2&WT.svl=94052

You must setup an account with airgas to order online. You do not need to be a company to do so, they sell direct to the public.

The best prices I could find were with Wesco gas and welding supply in Alabama. http://www.wescoweld.com/

They have both the stainless nut ($21.50) and the nipple ($19.50). ALL places I called do not stock stainless steel equipment like this. Luckily Wesco's distributor had them in stock and their warehouse was in PA, so I could get them in 1 business day. $40 plus shipping for both from Wesco. Airgas was $50 plus tax.

I am pretty sure (not certain) that the part numbers from Airgas were the same ones from Wesco. Airgas part numbers were from wesco, and I'm not sure, but I think they are the same place that I got the cheaper pricing.

I did not get chrome pricing, but I will be calling back for that pricing Monday because I'm not sure I want to pay $80 for both of my regs for SS...I mean, I want to, but I don't think I should.

[wondabread]

FedEx just stopped by and gave me some presents!

[Left C]

They sure look great!

[Left C]

I asked mrmotorcycles if he has some more CO2 regulators. This is what he told me: "I have some more L-tecs, a few Concoas, and some old Mathesons...........I give my blessing on the old Mathesons..........They are VERY reliable...........and very accurate.......I have had the least problems with them..............Thanks again.........

I don't have much experience with the L-tec's. These were used in applications that required good regulation and trouble free operation.

Thanks for your referrals and if VICTORS become available, I will let you know."