VICTOR and DUAL STAGE REGULATOR PIMP CLUB (Helpful Information Links are on Page 1)

[Left C]

Originally Posted by Complexity

Thanks for the suggestion. I might try that later at some point, but right now, I'm mainly focusing on the Victor I have. I've had it too long without even trying to use it that it's a real shame.

The only reason that I mentioned it the other day is that there is a SS-SS1-A Swagelok metering valve that has been on eBay for awhile. Its starting bid is $9.95 and it is called "Low-Flow Angle-Pattern Metering Valve, 1/16" Swagelok" on eBay. My local Swagelok dealer has it listed for $135.51. It requires adapters that I can help you with plus a special tightening sequence that is listed in the tubing info below. There is a video too.

More info:
pics of many Swagelok metering valves - http://www.swagelok.com/downloads/we.../MS-01-142.PDF
tubing and tightening info with video too - http://www.swagelok.com/fittings/tub...s_overview.htm


EDIT: fittings
http://www.swagelok.com/search/find_...s_results.aspx

Swagelok Tube Fitting, Male Connector, 1/16 in Tube OD x 1/8 in MNPT
B-100-1-2
SS-100-1-2BT
SS-100-1-2
B-100-1-2BT

Swagelok Tube Fitting, Male Connector, 1/16 in Tube OD x 1/16 in MNPT
B-100-1-1
B-100-1-1BT
NY-100-1-1
SS-100-1-1
SS-100-1-1BT



The picture above shows two types of Swagelok tubing x male NPT adapters. Swagelok doesn't offer the adapter on the right in the 1/16" size. It is avalible in only sizes larger than 1/16". This would be a better adapter to use than the one on the left that requires a piece of tubing (Swagelok, poly, copper, etc.) between the adapter and the metering valve.

[Complexity]

You drive me nutty! You're going to get me to learn all the parts and how to use them little by little through enticing me with lots of goodies! Found it and am watching.

Can you help me with one teeny-tiny question? What IS a metering valve? Is this something I would add to the Milwaukee or would it replace something already on it? I'm thinking this is the part that does the fine tuning of the bubbles being dosed? But that's a needle valve. So I'm confused.

[Left C]

Originally Posted by Complexity

You drive me nutty! You're going to get me to learn all the parts and how to use them little by little through enticing me with lots of goodies! Found it and am watching.

Yep, but only if I think that you can use it/them and/or it/they is/are a bargain.

Originally Posted by Complexity

Can you help me with one teeny-tiny question? What IS a metering valve? Is this something I would add to the Milwaukee or would it replace something already on it? I'm thinking this is the part that does the fine tuning of the bubbles being dosed? But that's a needle valve. So I'm confused.

You got it right. A metering valve is basically a more precise needle valve. Many people suggest that you should use a metering valve or a very good quality needle valve on an aquarium CO2 system. Your SuMo Post Body Kit comes with an excellent Ideal metering valve. Many people recommend replacing the needle valve on the Milwaukee regulator. Here is a recent thread about replacement.

Clippard, Milwaukee, JBJ, Azoo, etc. - imprecise needle valves
Fabco - very good needle valve plus a new metering valve
Ideal - very good metering valve, comes in brass and SS, most used 52-1-12 and 54-1-2
Swagelok - many different models of needle and metering valves, very high quality, low-flow and medium flow metering valves are suggested for our aquariums, available in SS and chrome-plated brass

[Complexity]

Originally Posted by Left C

Yep, but only if I think that you can use it/them and/or it/they is/are a bargain.

I know! And you've been a tremendous help! Without you, I would have never ventured past Milwaukee even though I really don't like it much. It's going to be interesting to see how the Victor feels once I begin using it.

[Left C]

Thanks.

[PRESTON4479]

I'm in the process of building a two stage regulator (not a victor though). I would just like to say thanks for the very informative thread 'Left C'. I was wondering about the Clippard solenoid valves and you explained it all. I'll be ordering mine without the cord and wiring it myself.

Also thanks to 'Hoppy' for this thread

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/di...regulator.html

How about a TSR pimp club?

[Left C]

Thank you very much, Brian. There are really many people that make this thread helpful and I am thankful for their information and help.

epicfish posted this image, but the PDF has expired. I hope he will post it again.

Originally Posted by epicfish

Here's an image from the PDF:


Here's the PDF: http://www.yousendit.com/download/Y2...R3N0d0UwTVE9PQ

[PRESTON4479]

Very nice! It doesn't get any easier than that.

[Left C]

You can order Victor chrome plated, high purity dual stage regulators through Michigan Reefers. Brass and chrome plated CGA-320 nipples and nuts are available too. Then you may need a post body kit.

Post Body Kits
SuMo Aquarium Regulators: http://sumoregulator.com/
Oregon Aqua Design: http://oregonaquadesign.vstore.ca/pr...e/co2-co2-kits


Max Inlet Pressure 3K psi
Max Outlet Pressure 40 psi

Manufactured by Victor

Model No. HPT272B-350 http://www.dmltrading.com.sg/documen...HPT270-280.pdf
Model No. HPT270B-250
Model No. SGT500-40-350-DK http://www.dmltrading.com.sg/documentation/SGT500.pdf
Model No. SGT500-40-4F-DK
Model No. SG1500-40-350-DK
Model No. GPT270B
Model No. GPT270-125-590-BV

Victor HPT270B-250
High Purity 2 Stage Regulators
These Regulators are recommended for the delivery of noncorrosive high purity gases and calibration mixtures used in gas chromatography and other sensitive laboratory equipment. They offer maximum control of delivery pressure regardless of fluctuations in cylinder pressure. Both diaphragms are stainless steel, which will not contaminate the gas stream and are highly resistant to inboard diffusion of atmospheric contaminants.

Features:
• Pure- Stainless steel diaphragms offer resistance to inboard diffusion of contaminants.
• Dependable- Kel-F seats and double inlet filtering offer longer life with less maintenance.
• Safe- External self-reseating relief valve provides maximum regulator protection.
• Durable- All components are chrome-plated giving long lasting durability and attractive appearance.

Thermadyne PDF: http://www.thermadyne.com/IM_Uploads...75_56-0874.pdf


Please send all questions about these regulators to the Michigan Reefers thread above.


Edit 3/26/09: I just got a PM from jaysreef at MichiganReefers.com. These Victor high purity dual stage regulators come with a brass CGA-320 fitting and a Swagelok reducing fitting to attach your regulator. The chrome CGA-320 fitting is extra cost.

Edit 3/29/09: Please note that the contact has been moved to the Michigan Reefers site.

[bsmith]

Nice find C. The Oregon Aqua link isnt working for me though.

[lovingHDTV]

Originally Posted by bsmith782

Nice find C. The Oregon Aqua link isnt working for me though.

I just tried it and it worked fine.

I bought this kit with the Fabco NV55 upgrade and it has been working solid with my Harris regulator. I'm very happy with it.

dave

[bsmith]

I have been having issues with certian sites all day. Im about to throw my CPU down a flight of stairs.

Originally Posted by lovingHDTV

I just tried it and it worked fine.

I bought this kit with the Fabco NV55 upgrade and it has been working solid with my Harris regulator. I'm very happy with it.

dave

[Left C]

Originally Posted by bsmith782

Nice find C. ...

The person that has them seems like a very nice person. He actually has worked with these regulators that are for sale. All of these regulators have stainless steel diaphragms and all of them can be used with CO2 by simply swapping out the CGA fitting.

Also, the SGT500 models have bodies made of 316L Stainless Steel bar stock.
http://www.dmltrading.com.sg/documentation/SGT500.pdf

[Left C]

I just received a PM from jaysreef. To make it easier, place your Victor dual stage high purity regulator orders through Michigan Reefers now. There are many regulators for sale. Please note that these regulators come with a brass CGA-320 nipple and a Swagelok stainless steel 1/4" MNTP x 1/8" MNPT bushing. A chrome CGA-320 nipple and nut is extra.

I ordered a SGT500-40 regulator plus the optional chrome plated CGA-320 nipple. The SGT500 regulators have a forged stainless steel body and they are chrome plated. They also have stainless steel diaphragms. Here is a PDF about them: http://www.dmltrading.com.sg/documentation/SGT500.pdf

[bsmith]

I just have to post up another excellent experience with my victor and emptieng another tank of co2. I let it get down to where it MAY have gone another day. I couldnt even read the cylinder pressure on the guage, but as usual my working pressure stayed at 15psi and my bubble rate was constant. After I took the regulator off the cylinder I opened it up to let whatever was out and it barely made a pffftttt!