VICTOR and DUAL STAGE REGULATOR PIMP CLUB (Helpful Information Links are on Page 1)

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Ebay Links removed. - KyleT

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Victor Dual Stage Regulator Models





Victor VTS250 Series / Two Stage Medium Duty Regulator
http://www.jandrweldingsupply.com/st...ctor/Menu.html

PRICE ..... Part # .... Model # .. Range . Gas

$481.08 0781-3569 VTS253A-320 ?????????? from: http://www.alexgs.com/product/victor-0781-3569.html
$356.15 0781-3573 VTS253B-320 2 - 40 CO2
$386.15 0781-3574 VTS253C-320 4 - 80 CO2
$380.77 0781-3575 VTS253D-320 5 - 125 CO2

VTS-253A-1993 - medical grade CO2 regulators.

Victor VTS450 Series / Two Stage Heavy Duty Regulator
http://www.jandrweldingsupply.com/st...ctor/Menu.html

PRICE ..... Part # .... Model # .. Range . Gas
$456.92 0781-3974 VTS453D-320 5 - 125 CO2, N2O

[bsmith]

Rat traps...really?

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Hi guys

Here are some pictures of my Victor regulators.


Front Shot



Rear Shot



VTS-253A-1993, Clippard Solenoid, Swagelok SS-31RF2 Metering Valve



VTS-253D-320, Burkert Solenoid, Ideal Metering Valve, JBJ Bubble Counter



VTS-253A-1993, Clippard Solenoid, Ideal Metering Valve

[Ackdog]

Nice fleet there. If I want to put a bubble counter on my VTS-253A, I guess because the output is oriented down from the valve body, I will have to mount it with the gauges horizontal. Or am I missing something? Also, which solenoid do you like?

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Originally Posted by Ackdog

Nice fleet there.

Thanks #11. These dual stage regulators work really well. I'm sure that you will like yours very well.

Originally Posted by Ackdog

If I want to put a bubble counter on my VTS-253A, I guess because the output is oriented down from the valve body, I will have to mount it with the gauges horizontal. Or am I missing something?

It depends on your fittings and/or your needle metering valve.

Needle/metering valves are either straight through or they have an elbow shape. The brass fittings can be straight through or elbow shaped.

My brass VTS-253D has an elbow fitting and the Ideal metering valve has an elbow shape. This allows both the regulator and the bubble counter to be mounted in a vertical position.

straight through metering valves



elbow metering valves or angle pattern



Mounting it this way will work too. The regulator will work just fine at any angle. This mounting doesn't use an elbow shaped fitting and it has an elbow shaped metering valve.

Originally Posted by Ackdog

Also, which solenoid do you like?

Both do their job well. The Burkert solenoid is more expensive and is built with better parts than the Clippard solenoid. The Clippard has a red LED to let you know when it is on. I really like the red LED feature.

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Originally Posted by Ackdog

If I want to put a bubble counter on my VTS-253A, I guess because the output is oriented down from the valve body, I will have to mount it with the gauges horizontal. Or am I missing something? Also, which solenoid do you like?

I mounted mine out the back because the output hole is at an angle so I couldn't go out the side and I didn't want it coming out the front.



I used the Clippard solenoid and I'm happy with it.

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Originally Posted by adstudio3d

... I have one question, On the 253A I just picked up the fitting for the solenoid is not at the very bottom but on a slight angle. Is this normal or can I turn the housing somehow to make the fitting on the bottom? The bubble counter will not sit vertical but at an angle the way it is now... Will this be a problem?

I'm not following exactly what you are talking about but I think that I might be understanding what you are asking.

Originally Posted by Left C

The bubble counter needs to be as close to vertical as you can get it. The regulator doesn't have to be upright to work. It can be horizontal, upside down and any position in between. The regulator doesn't care.

Hi adstudio3d

Did you get your regulator assembled OK?

I just now realized what you are asking. Even though the female port on the regulator is not exactly on the bottom, but at an angle; you can adjust how far that you screw the parts on to get them in the orientation that you want. The NPT threads are tapered so that as you screw a part on it gets tighter and tighter and the seal gets tighter and tighter too.

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[Ackdog]

Thanks. You guys know your stuff. A right angle valve will fix me right up. I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but the gauge on my Victor goes to 4000 PSI. Thats crazy. Its also made in the USA which I like...

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Originally Posted by Captain Hooked

Here's my 450D reg (which is getting a new cga' inlet) next to an Aqua Medic. I think the 'Medic has gauge envy....

There is a 450D on eBay that was rebuilt. It is for oxygen use, but it can easily be converted for CO2 use like Captain Hooked did.
Ebay Links removed. - KyleT

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Originally Posted by Ackdog

Thanks. You guys know your stuff. A right angle valve will fix me right up. I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but the gauge on my Victor goes to 4000 PSI. Thats crazy. Its also made in the USA which I like...

Hi Ackdog

DataLifePlus's picture shows a right angle fitting and a right angle Ideal metering valve.

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Originally Posted by DataLifePlus

Alright, so I received my solenoid and needle valve from SuMo (thanks guys).

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Here is a list of Clippard parts that may be helpful. Some of them are already listed in the TIPS post.
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/eq...tml#post710629

These parts can all be found online at http://www.clippard.com/store/ or from your local Clippard dealer.

Solenoid (You will need to purchase a grounded power cord separately)
1/8" FPT: Part # MME-2PDS-D110 - $19.70 ea.
http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...=MME-2PDS-D110
or
1/4" FPT: Part # MME-2PQS-D110 - $19.70 ea.
http://clippard.com/store/display_de...=MME-2QDS-D110

If you do not want to wire your Solenoid, you can order the above solenoid and then order either the 6’ or 15’ DIN connector with a grounded power cord and LED so you can replace the stock DIN connector and Led.
DIN connector with 6’ (152 mm) grounded power cord and LED
Part # CC-BLM-P6 - $13.00 each
http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...?sku=CC-BLM-P6

DIN connector with 15’ (381 mm) grounded power cord and LED
Part # CC-BLM-P15 - $22.00
http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...sku=CC-BLM-P15

Check Valve Parts
Check Valve Part # MCV-1BB - $4.71 ea.
http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...sp?sku=MCV-1BB

You can order either of these styles of these Hose Barbs. Clippard recommends the first one, but either will work. The second one is the one that we see most often.
Hose Barbs Part # 11752–4-PKG - $4.50 / package of 10 - you need two hose barbs per check valve
http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...ku=11752-4-PKG
Hose Barbs Part # 11752–1-PKG - $4.50 / package of 10 - you need two hose barbs per check valve
http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...ku=11752-1-PKG

1/4" OD x 1/8" ID Clear CO2 Proof Tubing 50 ft.
Part # URH1-0804-CLT-050 - $20.06 ea.
http://www.clippard.com/store/byo_tu...1-0804-CLT-050

1/4” male NPT x 1/8” female NPT reducer bushing
Part # 4CQN-BLK - $1.03 ea
http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...p?sku=4CQN-BLK

1/8” Barb x 1/8” male NPT barb to pipe fitting
Part # 2CP4 – BLK - $0.70 ea
http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...p?sku=2CP4-BLK
and
Part # 11924-1-BLK - $0.48
http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...ku=11924-1-BLK

[SpeedEuphoria]

speaking of the clippard solenoids, I bought a couple and the 1st one didnt fully close for some reason, It would leak a bubble every couple seconds out. I swapped it for a different one(same model) and it works solid like it should.

I took it apart as far as I could but cant get to the inside to see if there is anything in there hampering it. I tried blasting it with the reg set at as high as it would go (30psi) and it didnt help.

Any suggestions before I call clippard tomarrow?