Eheim Classic media container: 2213 only, or others also?

[ron521]

I purchased an Eheim 2213 7 or 8 years ago, and one feature which I liked was the included media container, sort of a white translucent Tupperware bucket which fit inside the green outer housing, and allowed all the media to be pulled out and carried to the sink for rinsing while leaving the green outer housing connected to the hoses.

More recently, I've been thinking about a 2217 for a 75 gallon tank, but am uncertain as to whether they come with this media container or not. Some of the images online look as if the media is placed directly inside the green outer housing. I even called customer service at Big Als, and they told me that only the 2213 comes with the media container.

However, the page for the 2217 on Aquariumguys.com does indicate a media container.

So, I'm somewhat puzzled. Can anyone confirm whether the 2217 does or does not in fact have the removeable media container?

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[kambrian]

My 2217 that I purchased at my LFS did not come with a removeable container. Just the the typical media, quick disconnects, hoses, etc.

[ColeMan]

I just purchased 2 2217's and neither came with the aforementioned media basket. I looked at aquariumguys.com and, like you said, they state it does come with a "ready to use media basket." I've never seen these, nor have I heard of anyone talking about them, but that doesn't mean much. I'd be interested to hear from Lescarp., he seems to know everything about eheim canisters.

[dthb4438]

I have a 2213 also and like the basket function. In fact, I would like to get a second basket already made up so I can just to the quick "presto-chango" thing and clean the dirty one up later. Just yesterday, I tried to get some of the fine filter pads for it, and couldn't find any. Had to buy a box of loose fine material for the Ehiems.

[trackhazard]

I have purchased both 2217 and 2213 within the last year. The 2213 comes with a basket. Anything bigger (2215, 2217, 2260, etc) does not.

Charlie

[lescarpentier]

Originally Posted by ColeMan

I'd be interested to hear from Lescarp., he seems to know everything about eheim canisters.

Well,not everything,but I am getting to know the Classics pretty good.

OK,I will break my silence,and offer my 2 cents.

The 2213 is the only Classic to ever come with this "thing" in the filter,and it is a marketing response to all of the other filters that offer media baskets.Actually it is more like an insert,but it could also be called a single basket.This basket technology "glued" to the traditional Classic technology truly makes this filter an aberration to the Classic line.Lattice screens to convert this filter to a "true" Classic are available.

Personally,I don't like it at all,and the next time that I open my filter it goes into the trash.I have seen snails hold carnival between this basket and the canister,so I know that it allows at least some bypass,as opposed to all other Classics.I find that this basket does not aid in the cleaning either,because you must carry the whole filter to the sink anyhow.In addition,if you make the mistake of trying to lift this basket full of soggy media out by using the flimsy handle it will almost certainly break.

Other than this basket,this is a very nice filter,virtually silent,but subject of course to it's output limitations.

[fshfanatic]

I have the 2213 as well and I have been looking for the two lattice pieces so I can drop the basket

I agree with Les.

[lauraleellbp]

Originally Posted by lescarpentier

Well,not everything,but I am getting to know the Classics pretty good.

Didn't someone say something about "intimately"...?

I have seen snails hold carnival between this basket and the canister,so I know that it allows at least some bypass...

Did you take video proof? Actually I don't care about proof, I just want to see snails holding carnival!!!

I'm actually curious about what the media basket looks like- anyone have pics?

Not to hijack (too late now?), but how's the testing coming, Les?

[John7429]

only the 2213 includes the media basket according to my understanding.

[lescarpentier]

Originally Posted by lauraleellbp

Didn't someone say something about "intimately"...?

Well.....We are family.

Originally Posted by lauraleellbp

Did you take video proof? Actually I don't care about proof, I just want to see snails holding carnival!!!

I will leave that to your imagination Laura,but yes,it is true.

Originally Posted by lauraleellbp

I'm actually curious about what the media basket looks like- anyone have pics?

Originally Posted by lauraleellbp

Not to hijack (too late now?), but how's the
testing coming, Les?

I expanded on my original goals,so I am waiting for another parts shipment,this one from Big Als,which was shipped today.I will post a thread sometime next week.

[ron521]

If the 2217 does not come with a media container, and if a media container is not available for the 2217 separately, then it looks as if I won't be buying a 2217 after all. Lack of a media container is a deal-breaker for me.
Kind of disappointing, really, as I found the media container on my 2213 to be a major convenience. If it allows a degree of bypass, I can live with it (although I never actually had a snail party).
Perhaps I may buy a second 2213 and use them together on my 75...or perhaps I'll just buy some other filter...

[ColeMan]

First of all, sorry to hear that the lack of a media container is a deal-breaker. Second of all, after following your link to aquariumguys.com yesterday and looking at their 2217, it seems as though they are in fact selling it with a media container, which is very strange. I want to get to the bottom of this, so I tried calling AG...they had no idea what to tell me; as a matter of fact, the girl I spoke with couldn't be sure that it in fact did come with the basket (as advertised on their website). So...I sent an e-mail to see what's going on, and I asked them if it was possible to get the lattice pieces by themselves...I'll update when I hear something.

[lescarpentier]

Originally Posted by ColeMan

First of all, sorry to hear that the lack of a media container is a deal-breaker. Second of all, after following your link to aquariumguys.com yesterday and looking at their 2217, it seems as though they are in fact selling it with a media container, which is very strange. I want to get to the bottom of this, so I tried calling AG...they had no idea what to tell me; as a matter of fact, the girl I spoke with couldn't be sure that it in fact did come with the basket (as advertised on their website). So...I sent an e-mail to see what's going on, and I asked them if it was possible to get the lattice pieces by themselves...I'll update when I hear something.

No need for further inquiry.As I indicated earlier,the only Classic available with a basket is the 2213.The 2217 is a large filter with a media capacity of 6 liters,so obviously a basket full of media would be very heavy,so it would not be practical.The lattice screens are available as replacements for all of the Classics,however the screens for the 2213 are a little more difficult to find.Simply cutting off the outside ring of a 2215 screen will give you a carbon copy of the 2213 lattice screen.

[ColeMan]

always one step ahead on the eheims, les. thanks! I wonder why they're advertising all of their classics with the baskets? just trying to confuse people, I guess!

[ron521]

"a basket full of media would be very heavy,so it would not be practical"

So, how heavy is the 2217 green outer housing when it is carried to the sink, full of media? Alternatively, just how is servicing performed on the 2217?