Re: Greg's version of Lily Pipe outflow

**gabeszone247** · 07-13-2006, 06:12 AM

Hey Iunknown I could try and sell these to my friends in Japan. They like what they see and you can sell them for a nice price in Japan. Can you send me an example please. This is the shop that would like an example.

IUnknown · 07-21-2006, 11:37 PM

I've placed another bulk order if anyone is interested. Should arrive within 4-6 weeks.

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The kit comes with 7' of clear tubing, 2 suction cups, intake pipe and outlet pipe, and zip ties. The kit runs $80 + S/H (priority mail, around $5).

**gabeszone247** · 07-22-2006, 02:49 AM

How about shipping a few to Japan?? You know you can get them made cheaper in Singapore!

**bigstick120** · 07-22-2006, 04:22 AM

What diameter hose will fit those?

IUnknown · 07-22-2006, 05:04 AM

5/8" sized tubing.

fresh_lynny · 07-22-2006, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by IUnknown

http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/f...ware-help.html

From this thread the ADA intakes don't get any longer either. I made a pair that was longer, but it didn't work out because it was very easy to snap in half (it would slap against the tank and break). My tank is only 16" high, but I always assumed that it wouldn't be a problem with larger tanks because most of the cleaning occurs when you change your water and stir things up. The rest of the time the detritus just falls to the bottom. The other complaint I had was that people that keep there canister filters running during there water change would have problems loosing there siphon. I turn off my filter during the water change, so don't have any problems.

Ahhhh that makes sense. It would be easily snapped. I too turn off my filter so that isn't a problem. I added some more corys to stir things up so it really isn't a problem anymore.

I too use an inline heater with these and it does look great, although I need to clean them out as they show up nastiness quickly!

Overfloater · 07-25-2006, 01:22 AM

These look interesting but I do have one question. It doesn't appear that the outflow pipe creates the "vortex" at the top of the tank like the ADA pipe does. Supposedly this completely eliminates any surface scum problems. Any thoughts on this?

IUnknown · 07-25-2006, 03:52 PM

Yeah, I've never seen the ADA pipes in person. So it creates a vortex that sucks the scum into the water? I always thought it was the flow of the water coming out of the lillie pipes. I wonder why they never show pictures of the vortex if that is a strong selling point.

IUnknown · 07-25-2006, 03:59 PM

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Lily Pipe as they provide the additional function of night time or lights-off aeration as well as complete elimination of surface film when raised.

I think this is like raising a normal spray bar so that the water is cascading into the tank.

bavarian3 · 07-26-2006, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Overfloater

These look interesting but I do have one question. It doesn't appear that the outflow pipe creates the "vortex" at the top of the tank like the ADA pipe does. Supposedly this completely eliminates any surface scum problems. Any thoughts on this?

it will do this effectively, you just have to position it right under the water level.

Overfloater · 07-26-2006, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by IUnknown

Yeah, I've never seen the ADA pipes in person. So it creates a vortex that sucks the scum into the water? I always thought it was the flow of the water coming out of the lillie pipes. I wonder why they never show pictures of the vortex if that is a strong selling point.

I saw a picture of it somewhere, raised to just under the surface and it created a nice little whirlpool. I don't know how effective it is but Jeff Senske uses them and I'm sure his clients would not be happy about any surface scum.

Momotaro · 07-26-2006, 10:39 PM

I have seen those pictures as well, Bob.

The vortex is visable and seems to fight the surface film as described.

Mike

IUnknown · 09-10-2006, 05:24 AM

I recieved a new shipment of lillie pipes. If anyone is interested, let me know. I will be bringing them to the AGA convention if you want to skip on shipping.

**gabeszone247** · 09-12-2006, 12:19 PM

Thanks IUnknown for shipping to Japan. I cant wait to use these in my tank, because im getting tired of seeing the green eheim stuff.

niko · 09-19-2006, 09:37 PM

These are a few pictures of the original ADA lilly pipe in action. It must be placed just right in order to create the vortex. The outside suction cup really facilitates that.

More lilly pipe pictures. The last picture (the dirty lilly pipe) shows how the water flows out of the "bell". I spent quite some time observing how water and debries flow out/in the lilly and I've written an explanation how it all seems to work. Of course I can be completely wrong

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DFWAPC Gallery :: The amazing ADA glass lilly pipe

More pictures of ADA stuff in detail.:
DFWAPC Gallery :: 100% Aqua Design Amano (ADA) 3 ft. planted tank

--Nikolay

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IUnknown Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (1/100%) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: San Juan Capistrano, CA Posts: 642	Yeah, I've never seen the ADA pipes in person. So it creates a vortex that sucks the scum into the water? I always thought it was the flow of the water coming out of the lillie pipes. I wonder why they never show pictures of the vortex if that is a strong selling point.

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Momotaro Doesn't like Kool-Aid (View User Tanks) PTrader: (47/100%) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hawthorne, New Jersey Posts: 8,702	I have seen those pictures as well, Bob. The vortex is visable and seems to fight the surface film as described. Mike

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IUnknown Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (1/100%) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: San Juan Capistrano, CA Posts: 642	I recieved a new shipment of lillie pipes. If anyone is interested, let me know. I will be bringing them to the AGA convention if you want to skip on shipping.

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gabeszone247 Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (80/100%) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Japan Posts: 1,135	Thanks IUnknown for shipping to Japan. I cant wait to use these in my tank, because im getting tired of seeing the green eheim stuff.

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niko Sponsor (View User Tanks) PTrader: (25/100%) Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dallas,TX Posts: 171	These are a few pictures of the original ADA lilly pipe in action. It must be placed just right in order to create the vortex. The outside suction cup really facilitates that. More lilly pipe pictures. The last picture (the dirty lilly pipe) shows how the water flows out of the "bell". I spent quite some time observing how water and debries flow out/in the lilly and I've written an explanation how it all seems to work. Of course I can be completely wrong : DFWAPC Gallery :: The amazing ADA glass lilly pipe More pictures of ADA stuff in detail.: DFWAPC Gallery :: 100% Aqua Design Amano (ADA) 3 ft. planted tank --Nikolay

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