I dont EVER want an Eheim! The Filstar PIMP club!!!!

FISA · 05-02-2005, 05:38 PM

Im glad you bought a canister filter and are happy with it...they are good
filters.

just cuz you drive a Hugo and are satisfied with it doesnt mean you bad mouth the BMW...there maybe a lot of cars that may have the same horsepower as a BMW ..but in the end..the BMW is a BMW...

Filstar are great filters but Ehiems are wikked!!!

Mister Green · 05-02-2005, 05:59 PM

when the pimp's in the crib ma
drop it like its hot
drop it like its hot
drop it like its hot

FMZ · 05-02-2005, 08:04 PM

Filstar Pimp #4

I have XP2, it barely puts out any noise, and I dont want to pay a premium price for Eheim

Wasserpest · 05-02-2005, 08:38 PM

Who is Hugo??

Filstar pumps don't need pimps. They speak for themselves, sometimes loudly, but always a good value

bigpow · 05-02-2005, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Filstar pumps don't need pimps. They speak for themselves, sometimes loudly, but always a good value

L O L

If that's the case then only Eheim for me...
Constant noise is one of the things that would get me aggravated

FISA · 05-02-2005, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasserpest

Who is Hugo??

Heheheheh...got me there....its Yugo...

and there she is...

Marc · 05-03-2005, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FMZ

Filstar Pimp #4

I have XP2, it barely puts out any noise, and I dont want to pay a premium price for Eheim

Filstar Pimp #5 reporting in!

I love my xp3. Its great value, its massive trays for filtration, and all the extra goodies that come with.

The noise it makes is due to all the power under the hood!

Jdinh04 · 05-03-2005, 02:10 AM

Meh! I was thinking about getting a Filstar, but I ended up getting the ehiem classic 2213 for $71.53 shipped new! Can't beat that :p

supaoopa · 05-03-2005, 10:34 PM

Personally, I think you can't go wrong either way. (Ehiem or Rena)

But on a side note....

GO EHIEM, GO EHIEM... its yo B-day!!!... lol.

fishoutawater · 05-04-2005, 04:09 AM

FS-Pimp #6 lookin atcha!!! HOLLA

Oqsy · 05-04-2005, 04:25 AM

i'm seriously considering a pair of XP1 filters for my 20H and 29 that currently have an HOB (20) and a HOT Mag.(29). Anyone using XP1s not happy with the size or flow rate? I expect I'll be staying about the same in the 29 and upgrading a bit on the 20 as far as flow rate is concerned, and I should be getting at least a decent upgrade in media capacity, even if it's not quite as high capacity as an XP2 or XP3. drs f&s have them on sale right now at about $56 each, which is definitely easier to justify to my wife than $80 for a pair of eheim 2213s. XP1 users, holla holla! (and make it quick so I can catch this sale!)

Oqsy

malkore · 05-04-2005, 03:55 PM

XP1 should be plenty for a 20 and 29gallon. Rena rates them up to 55gals, but I think that's being a little too liberal.

**khoile** · 05-04-2005, 06:27 PM

Hi have an XP1 and XP3 for my 75G, the XP1 flow rate is pretty good compare to the XP3 I thought. I have to slow it down to not cause so much water turbulence. I think XP1 will work for a 29G. Remember though it only has one basket, if you are not doing chemicial filtration (usually not) that I think that's fine. Else I think an XP2 is the best, if flow rate is too high, just simple slow it down, filstar include a ball valve for you to do this.

Khoi,

Oqsy · 05-04-2005, 09:25 PM

excellent info folks. i don't plan on using any chem. media... strictly mech/bio. I usually use poly floss and blue pads in all my filters, so I suspect that'll be the way I'll go in the xp1s as well. how about CO2 diffusion? does anyone bubbling into the intake have trouble with airlocking? My HOT mag did great for several weeks, but it slowly started airlocking more and more often (I think it was increased O2 levels in the water forming larger pockets as my plants started photosynthesizing more with the EI method I've recently adopted). so you can adjust flow with an included ball valve and it doesn't harm the motor of the filter? if what I've read is correct and I understand it completely, that's another advantage over eheims... everything I've read says that you can only "barely" impede the flow of an eheim with a ball valve, or it will damage the filter. I'm aware that eheim "classic" filters have much lower GPH ratings than XP series rated for a particular aquarium vol. example: an xp1 is suggested for up to 45 gallons @ 250 gph, while an eheim 2213 is suggested for up to 66 gallons @ 116 gph. I don't wish to delve too deeply into the discrepencies there, but wonder if throttling the flow is safe.

Oqsy

Wasserpest · 05-04-2005, 09:37 PM

Gutfeel tells me that reducing the flow on the output side is very safe for the pump. I don't think it would make much difference to the motor or impeller if the water is flowing faster or slower. Just some increased pressure after the impeller. Not sure though, maybe some pump pimp can chime in.

For planted tanks, you usually need a little more flow than what's written on the package. For my 100 gal tank, 1 XP3 was not enough (350gal/h), with a second one everything is fine. So I suggest to go a little bigger on the filter size, like others mentioned an XP2 has twice the filter capacity and is only a few bucks more than the XP1.

I was not successful in using the XP3 as a CO2 reactor, air (oxygen) was building up and leading to bubble eruptions and finally locked pumps.

05-02-2005, 05:38 PM	#16 (permalink)
FISA Planted Tank Expert (View User Tanks) PTrader: (92/100%) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TwinCities Minnesota Posts: 453	Im glad you bought a canister filter and are happy with it...they are good filters. just cuz you drive a Hugo and are satisfied with it doesnt mean you bad mouth the BMW...there maybe a lot of cars that may have the same horsepower as a BMW ..but in the end..the BMW is a BMW... Filstar are great filters but Ehiems are wikked!!! __________________ Ehiem Pimp # 88 ___________________________________ 29 Gallon PC 4WPG,Ehiem 2224 Pro, Pressurized CO2, Power Reactor, Eco Complete 75 Gallon PC 3.5WPG,Ehiem 2226 Pro, Pressurized CO2, Ext Reactor 1000, Eco Complete

05-02-2005, 05:59 PM	#17 (permalink)
Mister Green Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 89	when the pimp's in the crib ma drop it like its hot drop it like its hot drop it like its hot __________________ topless sunshine tanks each with a rubber lip pleco ~29G, goldfish, white clouds, bronze corys, apple snails, anachris, java ferns, 24" air curtain ~29G, barbs, peppered corys, ruby shark, apple snail, spiral cypts, italian vals, amazon sword, 24" air curtain ~20GH, bronze cory fry, dwarf sags, uruguayan sword, balansae crypt. 18" air wand That's "sprayer green" to you!

05-02-2005, 08:38 PM	#19 (permalink)
Wasserpest Born to be mild (View User Tanks) PTrader: (72/100%) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 10,578	Who is Hugo?? Filstar pumps don't need pimps. They speak for themselves, sometimes loudly, but always a good value __________________ All my tanks Cheap Autodosing Cheap Water Change Cheap Filter Acrylic Filter Pipes The Wasser-Controller

05-03-2005, 02:10 AM	#23 (permalink)
Jdinh04 Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (71/100%) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Okemos, MI Posts: 2,603	Meh! I was thinking about getting a Filstar, but I ended up getting the ehiem classic 2213 for $71.53 shipped new! Can't beat that :p __________________ Michigan Aquatic Plant Group - www.miapg.com Are you in the Greater Lansing or Metro Detroit area? Please join us and discuss planted aquariums! Planted Aquarium Website - www.aquascapist.com Design & Photography Portfolio - www.johnnydinh.com

05-03-2005, 10:34 PM	#24 (permalink)
supaoopa Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bay Area, Ca Posts: 250	Personally, I think you can't go wrong either way. (Ehiem or Rena) But on a side note.... GO EHIEM, GO EHIEM... its yo B-day!!!... lol. __________________ Eheim Pimp Club member #113 29 gal community 10 gal fry 6 gal betta community Last edited by supaoopa; 05-10-2005 at 10:50 PM.

05-02-2005, 08:04 PM	#18 (permalink)
FMZ Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: AR Posts: 217	Filstar Pimp #4 I have XP2, it barely puts out any noise, and I dont want to pay a premium price for Eheim

05-04-2005, 04:09 AM	#25 (permalink)
fishoutawater Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (1/100%) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Valencia, CA Posts: 70	FS-Pimp #6 lookin atcha!!! HOLLA

05-04-2005, 04:25 AM	#26 (permalink)
Oqsy Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (8/100%) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,170	a pair of XP1s? i'm seriously considering a pair of XP1 filters for my 20H and 29 that currently have an HOB (20) and a HOT Mag.(29). Anyone using XP1s not happy with the size or flow rate? I expect I'll be staying about the same in the 29 and upgrading a bit on the 20 as far as flow rate is concerned, and I should be getting at least a decent upgrade in media capacity, even if it's not quite as high capacity as an XP2 or XP3. drs f&s have them on sale right now at about $56 each, which is definitely easier to justify to my wife than $80 for a pair of eheim 2213s. XP1 users, holla holla! (and make it quick so I can catch this sale!) Oqsy __________________ Eheim Pimp #171 55 gallon jungle in progress; Eheim 2217, TurboTwist UVS, Seachem Onyx / Black T-grade ColorQuartz, 2x55w AHS CF, BeverageFactory.com CO2 Regulator with Clippard accessories "If you ask me, you've got too much imagination. Everything's all loop-de-loops and flibbertigibbets." - Hank Hill

05-04-2005, 03:55 PM	#27 (permalink)
malkore Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 2,165	XP1 should be plenty for a 20 and 29gallon. Rena rates them up to 55gals, but I think that's being a little too liberal. __________________ Malkore Filstar XP2 PIMP #3 Visit my aquarium pages - see specs on my tanks, and photos of how they've evolved

05-04-2005, 06:27 PM	#28 (permalink)
khoile Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (1/100%) Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: OC, CA, US Posts: 573	Hi have an XP1 and XP3 for my 75G, the XP1 flow rate is pretty good compare to the XP3 I thought. I have to slow it down to not cause so much water turbulence. I think XP1 will work for a 29G. Remember though it only has one basket, if you are not doing chemicial filtration (usually not) that I think that's fine. Else I think an XP2 is the best, if flow rate is too high, just simple slow it down, filstar include a ball valve for you to do this. Khoi, __________________ My 230G Rimless Starphire AquaForest

05-04-2005, 09:25 PM	#29 (permalink)
Oqsy Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (8/100%) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,170	excellent info folks. i don't plan on using any chem. media... strictly mech/bio. I usually use poly floss and blue pads in all my filters, so I suspect that'll be the way I'll go in the xp1s as well. how about CO2 diffusion? does anyone bubbling into the intake have trouble with airlocking? My HOT mag did great for several weeks, but it slowly started airlocking more and more often (I think it was increased O2 levels in the water forming larger pockets as my plants started photosynthesizing more with the EI method I've recently adopted). so you can adjust flow with an included ball valve and it doesn't harm the motor of the filter? if what I've read is correct and I understand it completely, that's another advantage over eheims... everything I've read says that you can only "barely" impede the flow of an eheim with a ball valve, or it will damage the filter. I'm aware that eheim "classic" filters have much lower GPH ratings than XP series rated for a particular aquarium vol. example: an xp1 is suggested for up to 45 gallons @ 250 gph, while an eheim 2213 is suggested for up to 66 gallons @ 116 gph. I don't wish to delve too deeply into the discrepencies there, but wonder if throttling the flow is safe. Oqsy __________________ Eheim Pimp #171 55 gallon jungle in progress; Eheim 2217, TurboTwist UVS, Seachem Onyx / Black T-grade ColorQuartz, 2x55w AHS CF, BeverageFactory.com CO2 Regulator with Clippard accessories "If you ask me, you've got too much imagination. Everything's all loop-de-loops and flibbertigibbets." - Hank Hill

05-04-2005, 09:37 PM	#30 (permalink)
Wasserpest Born to be mild (View User Tanks) PTrader: (72/100%) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 10,578	Gutfeel tells me that reducing the flow on the output side is very safe for the pump. I don't think it would make much difference to the motor or impeller if the water is flowing faster or slower. Just some increased pressure after the impeller. Not sure though, maybe some pump pimp can chime in. For planted tanks, you usually need a little more flow than what's written on the package. For my 100 gal tank, 1 XP3 was not enough (350gal/h), with a second one everything is fine. So I suggest to go a little bigger on the filter size, like others mentioned an XP2 has twice the filter capacity and is only a few bucks more than the XP1. I was not successful in using the XP3 as a CO2 reactor, air (oxygen) was building up and leading to bubble eruptions and finally locked pumps. __________________ All my tanks Cheap Autodosing Cheap Water Change Cheap Filter Acrylic Filter Pipes The Wasser-Controller

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