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#77 (permalink) | |
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You want a bead along the bottom of the inside face of the sides (calling them ends is maybe a little less confusing?) You then want a bead along the bottom and both sides of the inside face of the front and back. All beads should be applied to a "face" not an "edge". I hope that makes sense, I am not much of a wordsmith. Seeing as this thread seems to have remained a popular read, if I get time I would like to assemble a small tank and accompany it with a plethora of step-by-step photos. I have a couple of tanks to build for people once I finish the car I am building, one of these tanks is a plain and simple 4' x 2' x 2'. That is probably a good candidate to photograph. |
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That would be killer Wendle! If you get the chance, please do!
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That's why you need to practice on a little (cheap) tank first. And then practice EVERY SINGLE motion you are planning to make before you do it. And then, since you are only doing one pane at a time, that limit is not so bad.
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I hope 2 minutes is a bit on the extreme side. Working on a plywood tank, where the front glass needs to be glued on all 4 sides at the same time, I wonder if it is even possible to squeeze the cartridge fast enough to get it all out, and then lower the glass (slowly??) onto the glue.
Maybe for that purpose it would be better to use the non-professional type with less strength, but a bit more flexibility with the extended dry period. |
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Hey Scolly
I have started my project on a 22 gallon ADA style rimless tank. While mine is not as ambitious as your 75 gallon project, I did read all 44 pages of that post. It was definitely informational and your perseverance is commendable. I have a question on RTV108. I have been trying to find out that product and have searched at local HD, Lowes, Ace but not seen it. When I mention "RTV108", I get looks as if I just landed from Mars Malay |
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Hi Scolley,
Thank you for posting this, I'm planning to build my own tank in the next month or so. I've worked with glass for some time now and really didn't think it would be very hard at all, actually I still don't, but your article did touch on a few things I hadn't thought of so thanks very much The end result of your project looks out sanding. As I said above I'm planning my own tank and was told by more than a few people, (one of whom is the owner of the company I work for now) that I should not polish the panels because the seal will not be as good as it will in the glass is clean cut. So I'm wondering if you've had anymore problems with leaks since you last posted and how long has the tank had water in it? Quote:
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Does that make sense? It's not the water pressure on the seal that's the problem. It's the water pressure on the huge pane of glass that creates the forces that tear the edges apart. Quote:
By the time I learned about resonable construction techniques, and RTV108, I had developed a bit of bursitis in my arm from cleaning silicone. So while I knew that I SHOULD take apart the entire tank and use RTV108, I didn't. I only used it to repair leaking sides. As such, one long side was still attached with the old, crappy "aquarium" silicone. And about 12 hours after some hard pressure algae scrubbing on that side, it let go. Quote:
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Good luck with your project!
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Steve,
I can follow along why it's suggested that the four panes should sit outside the bottom pane rather than on top of it. But... Why are acrylic tanks made with the side panes sitting on top of the base pane? My initial thought would be to do exactly what you did. It just "seems logical" to put the four panes above the base to fully support the pressure. Even given the difference of glass-meeting-silicon-meeting-glass vs. acrylic-chemically-bonding-to-acrylic, it still seems that water pressure would act the same way, requiring the same solution. |
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Just to complicate the discussion, GlassCages rimless tanks have extra strips of glass, same thickness, I think, "glued" to the inside of the bottom piece, on all four sides, so there is a double thickness of glass around the edges of that bottom piece. If Tom Barr is reading this thread he can confirm or correct this, because it is his tanks that I noticed this on. The effect of this would be to double the strength of the bond between the sides/front/back and the bottom piece.
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