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: DWARF SHRIMP SPECIES/COMMON NAMES. (picture heavy)


pejerrey
10-28-2012, 07:23 AM
So, I was trying to find info all in one spot, but seems to be all over the web and planet invert site you have to click on every single shrimp to know to which group it belongs to.

PLEASE POST GOOD PICTURES OF THE SHRIMP THAT NEED IMAGES! THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO'S SHARING!

( *=IMAGE AVAILABLE)


- The fist part of the list (no pics) is just a compendium of common names used to describe variants of each genus or phenotype(s).

- There may be people calling the same phenotype with different names, or even using the same common name for different phenotypes. (ie,see red neos or rillis)

- I will post in the second part of the list good pictures of what is commonly "known as or bought/sold as". So, its just to get an idea of how the bugs should look like.

- For ideal water parameters, or particular info about the shrimp use google please. :)


Here we go:


Neocardinia Heteropoda:

- Red Cherry (RCS)*
- Sakura Red
- Fire Red*
- Painted Fire Red (PFR)
- Supreme Red*

- Yellow
- Fire Yellow*
- Golden
- Neon Yellow
- Neon fire yellow*

- Orange,Pumpkin*
- Sunkist Sakura*


- Red rilli*
- Blue rilli*

- Blue Velvet*

- Carbon Rili

Chocolate (Schoko)

- Black*
- Blue*
- Brown*

Neocardinia Palmata:

- Pearls (var. Blue*, White, etc.)


Cardinia cantonesis:

- Crystal red (CRS)*
- Pure Red Line (PRL)*
- K14 (also a PRL)*
- Crystal black (CBS)
- Pure Black Line (PBL)*
- Black Impact (also a PBL)*
- Tiger
- Super Tiger*
- Red Tiger*
- Orange Eye Blue Tiger (OEBT)*
- Black Tiger Orange Eye (BTOE)*
- Royal Blue Tiger*
- Black Tiger Black Eye (BTBE)*
- Panda*
- Shadow Panda*
- Blue Bolt*
- Hulk*
- Black King Kong (BKK)*
- Cristal White *


- Tibee (Tiger x Bee)*

Caridina pareparensis parvidentata:

-Malawa*


Caridina serrata:

- Tangerine Tiger (TT)*


Cardinia japonica(multidentata):

-Amano*

Caridina (Paracaridina) meridionalis:

- Camouflage Tiger Shrimp, Hong Kong Shrimp, Larry Shrimp*

Halocaridina rubra:

- Hawaiian Red Shrimps "Opae Ula"*

Caridina Hogarti:

- Green Nose Shrimp*

Caridina Gracilirostris:

-Pinoccio*

Caridina BALBAUTI:(this type is very confusing)

-Rainbow*
-brown/black*
-zebra*

SULAWESI

- Cardinal
- Harlequin

Palaemonetes sp.

- Ghost/Glass shrimp

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IMAGES (work in progress)




Neocardinia Heteropoda (huge vars.):

- Cherry (RCS)
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-dW8EyrX_ySA/UI8AJabp0QI/AAAAAAAABrE/jjrPQqpO_Oc/s512/RED%2520CHERRY.jpg

- Sakura
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-t2Pd60jOtss/UJGLYMdfj5I/AAAAAAAAByo/2SjhWzljMnI/s500/SAKURA.jpg

- Fire Red
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ChUMXvUEiyg/UI8AIeJywcI/AAAAAAAABrM/9HXvED55EDo/s512/FIRE%2520RED.jpg

- Painted fire red (PFR)
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-gD3C_vCExa8/UJGNJzyxdfI/AAAAAAAABzA/8w_djE0vMLU/s800/PFR.jpg

- Supreme
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3I6jsoUdvag/UI4QHHxFV-I/AAAAAAAABpU/jGdjA7p08qI/s800/SUP%2520RED.jpg



-Yellow
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ZFgYiXfJsJM/UHznCBNMmMI/AAAAAAAAByM/9FQMqOl1nDc/s584/yellow%2520eggs.jpg

-Yellow Fire
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-I-6ibN0p3hU/UI8AJ5vPD5I/AAAAAAAABrQ/vE03bqaHn3o/s512/Yellow%2520Fire.jpg

-Golden
-Neon Yellow

-Neon fire yellow
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-IJuDfsn59uo/UI8vscnNJQI/AAAAAAAABtU/glIdsiObMeA/s800/neon%2520fire%2520yellow.jpg

- Orange, PUMPKIN
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NjOCmj-gMZs/UJAwukBIVQI/AAAAAAAABt0/cltpr8oD_P4/s800/PUMPKIN.jpg

- Sunkist Sakura
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2SNIGxmdkVA/UI8AI0To0BI/AAAAAAAABq8/i5dzRR8arHg/s512/ORANGE%2520SUNKIST%2520SAKURA.jpg

-Red rilli
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6a0HFWJx5C4/UI4QGoOdagI/AAAAAAAABpE/jlBsltZX9gA/s800/RED%2520RILI.jpg


-Blue rilli
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Og_Xb60LlFo/UI8AH-Uw9WI/AAAAAAAABqs/slWkkZKHw7E/s512/Blue%2520Rili%2520shrimp%2520from%2520Michael%2520 Nadal.jpg


-Blue Velvet
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bP2HNgjJoh4/UI4QFBWQOvI/AAAAAAAABog/m6ephJDv85c/s800/BLUE%2520VELVET.jpg


-Blue Velvet Red Head
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-cwl2Pbh4Ikc/UI8nOHxq75I/AAAAAAAABs8/GwWeVjYMqJw/s800/BVR.jpg

-Carbon Rili

Chocolate (Schoko)

- Black
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-cIiszo4uYA4/UI4QFmPsX7I/AAAAAAAABok/-VPBCiVjWC0/s800/CHOCOLATES.jpg

- Blue
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-VB-3EI4eEUg/UI4QE2qe2sI/AAAAAAAABoI/B1flcnDYcH4/s800/BLUE%2520CHOCO.jpg

- Brown
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PUg4b-Rxtso/UI4QFCb42kI/AAAAAAAABoU/QDR1HV7-Kz4/s800/BROWN%2520CHOCO.jpg

Neocardinia Palmata:
Pearls (var. Blue, White, etc.)
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-LM9i6iHkwiM/UJAxyI2ZKxI/AAAAAAAABt8/WBitHC8QFtw/s450/BLUE%2520PEARL.jpg


Cardinia cantonesis:

-Crystal red(CRS)
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-43QFEkPnT7I/UI4QF9MnOdI/AAAAAAAABoo/5f80kY-7j2w/s800/CRS%2520SS.jpg

- Pure Red Line(PRL)
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-QXAKq9RdV60/UI8Cv3WHu6I/AAAAAAAABsM/yZwib8Ip6ro/s512/PRL.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OpDEonry5RE/UI8AItx_xsI/AAAAAAAABq4/abNj6RqNWT8/s512/K14.jpg

- Crystal black(CBS)

- Pure Black Line (PBL)

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Yf-hC8SQOTY/UJCTKJzrNpI/AAAAAAAABxw/FnYRNybMNyk/s800/BLACK%2520IMPACT.jpg

- Pinto
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vSfaLKM0kxM/UJGLZUHotKI/AAAAAAAAByw/_piyGarCuZM/s800/PINTO.jpg

- Crystal White
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Nc4bRygD-V4/UI4QF65VH3I/AAAAAAAABos/B0krQA7KBLc/s800/CRYSTAL%2520WHITE.jpg

-Wine Red
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nykaZ3644Jw/UI4QHrDzQDI/AAAAAAAABpc/IXCXi_j-KL4/s800/WINE%2520RED.jpg

Tigers

-Regular Tiger
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Uod4svyUfzU/UJA3xf7F8JI/AAAAAAAABu0/hNZnpqGj9Fs/s562/TIGER.jpg

- Red Tiger
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-u6T3fE5xUa4/UI8AJsT0KUI/AAAAAAAABrI/gCvB8fFIXhU/s512/RED%2520TIGER.jpg

- Super Tiger
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rJj9ixTkR0A/UJAy3eW9LyI/AAAAAAAABuE/RQ3gbOadvro/s912/SUPER%2520TIGER.jpg

- OEBT (orange eye blue tiger)
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1jamIcLZ3yw/UI4QGRA92-I/AAAAAAAABpA/9MmEZbqMkR4/s800/OEBT.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-eprp6h0kTLM/UI8AH95bYDI/AAAAAAAABq0/H5brjtk0aVY/s512/BLONDE%2520OEBT.jpg

- BTOE (black tiger orange eye)
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-GDKjNzt4pes/UI4QFcqAkaI/AAAAAAAABoc/vYUGQoRXpLw/s800/BTOE.jpg

- Royal Blue
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-yMrL18RxEKs/UI4QG96qVJI/AAAAAAAABpQ/mHeM6ujtYSQ/s800/ROYSL%2520BLUE.jpg

- BTBE (black tiger black eye)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CgVIbNhn7M0/UI8AINVvThI/AAAAAAAABqw/NQUt8l_ARLk/s512/BTBE%2520BT4.jpg

- Tibee (Tiger x Bee)
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-jdtog2Osc5I/UI4QHZnWY8I/AAAAAAAABpg/GmYcYzgh0gc/s800/TIBEE.jpg

- Black King Kong (BKK)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Q8Eb5kL69kY/UI4QEnS6jBI/AAAAAAAABn8/tdHdsOx5-5U/s800/BKK.jpg

- Pandas

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1nek7qrvze0/UI8AJM9rYiI/AAAAAAAABrA/4tvZhfonz-w/s512/PANDA.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SeMLWp8Lf9U/UI4QHGPevEI/AAAAAAAABpM/HvZOnTruyDA/s800/SHADOW%2520PANDA.jpg

- Blue Bolt
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-tptP7xGn44Q/UI4QEtzZbkI/AAAAAAAABoA/0lIB9boDYpk/s800/BLUE%2520BOLT.jpg

- Blue Bees
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-U0YmWYl5dmo/UJAzrQSeO7I/AAAAAAAABuM/56CNG5YuTBY/s800/BLUE%2520BEE.jpg

- Hulk
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SpzCMlPNB9k/UI4QGEkgghI/AAAAAAAABow/pnGUL3jlqHE/s800/GREEN%2520HULK.jpg

Caridina pareparensis parvidentata:
- Malawa
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2MVFqmVWTTo/UJA05t7pNaI/AAAAAAAABuk/ppXk0ax5MV0/s800/MALAWA.jpg


Caridina serrata:
TT - tangerine tiger
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nx9jdLwSmgc/UI8F32bOubI/AAAAAAAABsk/VGf7xLQvSaw/s800/TT.jpg


Cardinia japonica(multidentata):
- Amano
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pyf22eJLlgE/UJA0JF7_QSI/AAAAAAAABuU/R5o_gyg6AeY/s720/AMANO.jpg




Caridina (Paracaridina) meridionalis:

-Camouflage Tiger Shrimp, Hong Kong Shrimp, Larry Shrimp
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-e_u0MKMHuPo/UI4QGX_7uZI/AAAAAAAABo0/bkTel6y2rXo/s800/LARRY.jpg


Caridina Hogarti:

-Green Nose Shrimp
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0re5bgeaAV4/UJAvZ8m_lfI/AAAAAAAABts/-AlZtc4okk8/s400/green%2520nose.jpg

Halocaridina rubra:

- Hawaiian Red Shrimps "Opae Ula"
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3xlKkJqstKc/UJA2dZihi6I/AAAAAAAABus/ep9IPM1tmZ4/s720/OPAE%2520ULA.jpg

Caridina Gracilirostris:

-Pinoccio

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-aUuulCS8Y8Y/UJA5C3z8ilI/AAAAAAAABu8/r6DUyOYsQwo/s720/PINOCCIO.jpg


Caridina BALBAUTI:(this type is very confusing)

-Rainbow
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mj988H6QRzw/UJCR9qUTxDI/AAAAAAAABxk/9-PG5GPPHEE/s800/RAINBOW.jpg

-Zebra
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ebRZIXrEUiA/UJCQ_tSv2gI/AAAAAAAABxc/D1Vgs83a-2Y/s800/INDIAN%2520ZEBRA.jpg

-Brown/Black
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XamJr2Bk5nU/UJCQbpYIYQI/AAAAAAAABxU/8jIPkmZaa8o/s912/BALBAUTI%2520BROWN.jpg


Palaemonetes sp.

- Ghost/glass shrimp
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SQK-mv-EWbw/UJGLUNvDf9I/AAAAAAAAByQ/o9XRCWTBam0/s720/GHOST.jpg


Sulawesi

- Cardinal
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-WVvpTbqLyUY/UJGLVEsC9rI/AAAAAAAAByY/E_J9i_xy1J8/s608/CARDINAL.jpg

- Harlequin
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xO8m4LKQxTw/UJGLcRgAweI/AAAAAAAABy4/4FJ-CbCdH-w/s405/harlequin.jpg



Just copy and paste! ;)

Soothing Shrimp
10-28-2012, 01:48 PM
Neocardinia Heteropoda (huge vars.):

Cherry
Sakura
Fire Red
Painted fire red
Supreme

Yellow
Golden
Neon Yellow
Neon fire yellow

Red rilli
Blue rilli
Blue Velvet
Blue Velvet Red

Carbon Rili

Chocolate

Black


Neocardinia Palmata:

Pearls (var. Blue, White, etc.)


Cardinia cantonesis:
Crystal red
Crystal black
Tigers

Caridina pareparensis parvidentata:
Malawa

Cardinia japonica:
Amano

Bryanmc1988
10-28-2012, 03:26 PM
Just curious would making a list of the shrimps that can be house together just the common name like neo and carid or are they the only shrimps out there that can be house together


To clear it up I mean are there only two species (neo & carid) that can be house or is there a third or fourth species that can also be house in the same tank without inter breeding with each other

GeToChKn
10-28-2012, 03:28 PM
Just curious would making a list of the shrimps that can be house together just the common name like neo and carid or are they the only shrimps out there that can be house together


To clear it up I mean are there only two species (neo & carid) that can be house or is there a third or fourth species that can also be house in the same tank without inter breeding with each other

The problems not as much as housing them together as finding params that overlap that make them happy and allow them both to breed.

ThatGuyWithTheFish
10-28-2012, 03:39 PM
Caridina japonica is the old name for Amanos. They have been reclassified as Caridina multidentata.

aznrice247
10-28-2012, 03:44 PM
you forgot one.... Halocaridina

Neocardinia Heteropoda (huge vars.):

Cherry
Sakura
Fire Red
Painted fire red
Supreme

Yellow
Golden
Neon Yellow
Neon fire yellow

Red rilli
Blue rilli
Blue Velvet
Blue Velvet Red

Carbon Rili

Chocolate

Black


Neocardinia Palmata:

Pearls (var. Blue, White, etc.)


Cardinia cantonesis:
Crystal red
Crystal black
Tigers

Caridina pareparensis parvidentata:
Malawa

Cardinia japonica:
Amano

Halocaridina:

Halocaridina rubra:
Hawaiian Red Shrimps
*Opae Ula*

Bryanmc1988
10-28-2012, 03:48 PM
The problems not as much as housing them together as finding params that overlap that make them happy and allow them both to breed.

They don't need to crazy breed but good enough to live together for a show tank

pejerrey
10-28-2012, 03:48 PM
you forgot one.

Halocaridina:
Halocaridina rubra:
Hawaiian Red Shrimps
Opae Ula

Thanks, can copy and paste the list and add it?

speedie408
10-28-2012, 03:51 PM
Neocardinia Heteropoda (huge vars.):

Cherry
Sakura
Fire Red
Painted fire red
Supreme

Yellow
Golden
Neon Yellow
Neon fire yellow

Orange
- Sunkist Sakura
- Pumpkin

Red rilli
Blue rilli
Blue Velvet
Blue Velvet Red

Carbon Rili

Chocolate (Schoko)
- Black
- Blue
- Brown

Neocardinia Palmata:
Pearls (var. Blue, White, etc.)


Cardinia cantonesis:
Crystal red
- Pure Red Line
Crystal black
- Pure Black Line
- Black Impact
Tigers
- Red
- OEBT
- BTOE
- Royal Blue
- BTBE
- Tibee (Tiger x Bee)

Caridina pareparensis parvidentata:
Malawa

Caridina serrata:
TT - tangerine tiger

Cardinia japonica:
Amano

aznrice247
10-28-2012, 03:53 PM
I think we should add images too :D So it's like a nice gallery.

pejerrey
10-28-2012, 03:54 PM
Thanks Nick! Now we're talking! :)
I'll update first post!


Neocardinia Heteropoda (huge vars.):

Cherry
Sakura
Fire Red
Painted fire red
Supreme

Yellow
Golden
Neon Yellow
Neon fire yellow

Orange
- Sunkist Sakura
- Pumpkin

Red rilli
Blue rilli
Blue Velvet
Blue Velvet Red

Carbon Rili

Chocolate (Schoko)
- Black
- Blue
- Brown

Neocardinia Palmata:
Pearls (var. Blue, White, etc.)


Cardinia cantonesis:
Crystal red
- Pure Red Line
Crystal black
- Pure Black Line
- Black Impact
Tigers
- Red
- OEBT
- BTOE
- Royal Blue
- BTBE
- Tibee (Tiger x Bee)

Caridina pareparensis parvidentata:
Malawa

Caridina serrata:
TT - tangerine tiger

Cardinia japonica(multidentata):
Amano

aznrice247
10-28-2012, 03:54 PM
Neocardinia Heteropoda (huge vars.):

Cherry
Sakura
Fire Red
Painted fire red
Supreme

Yellow
Golden
Neon Yellow
Neon fire yellow

Orange
- Sunkist Sakura
- Pumpkin

Red rilli
Blue rilli
Blue Velvet
Blue Velvet Red

Carbon Rili

Chocolate (Schoko)
- Black
- Blue
- Brown

Neocardinia Palmata:
Pearls (var. Blue, White, etc.)


Cardinia cantonesis:
Crystal red
- Pure Red Line
Crystal black
- Pure Black Line
- Black Impact
Tigers
- Red
- OEBT
- BTOE
- Royal Blue
- BTBE
- Tibee (Tiger x Bee)

Caridina pareparensis parvidentata:
Malawa

Caridina serrata:
TT - tangerine tiger

Cardinia japonica:
Amano

What does a BVR look like?

speedie408
10-28-2012, 03:56 PM
What does a BVR look like?

http://images109.fotki.com/v82/photos/4/1503564/10978663/photo-vi.jpg

aznrice247
10-28-2012, 03:57 PM
Neocardinia Heteropoda (huge vars.):

Cherry
Sakura
Fire Red
Painted fire red
Supreme

Yellow
Golden
Neon Yellow
Neon fire yellow

Orange
- Sunkist Sakura
- Pumpkin

Red rilli
Blue rilli
Blue Velvet
Blue Velvet Red

Carbon Rili

Chocolate (Schoko)
- Black
- Blue
- Brown

Neocardinia Palmata:
Pearls (var. Blue, White, etc.)


Cardinia cantonesis:
Crystal red
- Pure Red Line
Crystal black
- Pure Black Line
- Black Impact
Tigers
- Red
- OEBT
- BTOE
- Royal Blue
- BTBE
- Tibee (Tiger x Bee)

Caridina pareparensis parvidentata:
Malawa

Caridina serrata:
TT - tangerine tiger

Cardinia japonica(multidentata):
Amano

Halocaridina:
Halocaridina rubra:
-Hawaiian Red Shrimps *Opae Ula*

aznrice247
10-28-2012, 03:59 PM
http://images109.fotki.com/v82/photos/4/1503564/10978663/photo-vi.jpg

Ohh w/ the red headgear, I wonder if there will ever be a Red Velvet, a transparent red body.

ThatGuyWithTheFish
10-28-2012, 04:03 PM
Let's get into some of the expensive/rare ones now. :)

Neocardinia Heteropoda (huge vars.):

Wild
Cherry
Sakura
Fire Red
Painted fire red
Supreme

Yellow
Golden
Neon Yellow
Neon fire yellow

Orange
- Sunkist Sakura
- Pumpkin

Red rilli
Blue rilli
Blue Velvet
Blue Velvet Red

Carbon Rili

Chocolate (Schoko)
- Black
- Blue
- Brown

Neocardinia Palmata:
Pearls (var. Blue, White, etc.)


Cardinia cantonesis:
Crystal red
- Pure Red Line
- Golden Bees
- Wine Reds
Crystal black
- Pure Black Line
- Black Impact
Tigers
- Red
- OEBT
- BTOE
- Royal Blue
- BTBE
- Tibee (Tiger x Bee)
Black King Kong
Pandas
Blue Bolt
Blue Bees
Hulk

Caridina pareparensis parvidentata:
Malawa/Sulawesi
Cardinal

Caridina serrata:
TT - tangerine tiger

Cardinia japonica(multidentata):
Amano

pejerrey
10-28-2012, 04:04 PM
http://images109.fotki.com/v82/photos/4/1503564/10978663/photo-vi.jpg

Actually, this is a great idea!

Nick, can I use your pictures from your thread to illustrate some of the shrimp in this ID guide?

Thanks!

Soothing Shrimp
10-28-2012, 04:06 PM
Neocardinia Heteropoda (huge vars.):

Cherry
Sakura
Fire Red
Painted fire red
Supreme

Yellow
Golden
Neon Yellow
Neon fire yellow

Orange
- Sunkist Sakura
- Pumpkin

Red rilli
Blue rilli
Blue Velvet
Blue Velvet Red

Carbon Rili

Chocolate (Schoko)
- Black
- Blue
- Brown

Neocardinia Palmata:
Pearls (var. Blue, White, etc.)
Blueberry

Cardinia cantonesis:
Crystal red
- Pure Red Line
Crystal black
- Pure Black Line
- Black Impact
Tigers
- Red
- OEBT
- BTOE
- Royal Blue
- BTBE
- Tibee (Tiger x Bee)

Caridina pareparensis parvidentata:
Malawa

Caridina serrata:
TT - tangerine tiger

Cardinia japonica(multidentata):
Amano

Halocaridina:
Halocaridina rubra:
-Hawaiian Red Shrimps *Opae Ula*

speedie408
10-28-2012, 04:07 PM
Ohh w/ the red headgear, I wonder if there will ever be a Red Velvet, a transparent red body.

I'm sure we will in due time :). Serious breeders normally have secret breeding tanks that the general public have no clue about until the new shrimp becomes public.

Soothing Shrimp
10-28-2012, 04:07 PM
Probably good we are sticking to the widely available shrimp (in general) as opposed to the rarer colors, too.

pejerrey
10-28-2012, 04:08 PM
Thanks guys! This list is coming along very good!:D

speedie408
10-28-2012, 04:08 PM
Actually, this is a great idea!

Nick, can I use your pictures from your thread to illustrate some of the shrimp in this ID guide?

Thanks!

Go right ahead Carlos. Thanks for asking.

pejerrey
10-28-2012, 04:10 PM
Go right ahead Carlos. Thanks for asking.

Thanks, I want to edit the picture to add text with the shrimp name in a corner, Is that ok?

speedie408
10-28-2012, 04:12 PM
Thanks, I want to edit the picture to add text with the shrimp name in a corner, Is that ok?

That's fine with me bro.

Soothing Shrimp
10-28-2012, 04:16 PM
You know, we often refer people to other sites for params. Maybe we should just do our own huge chart/photos for shrimp params here at TPT? The most comprehensive ever?

blacksheep998
10-28-2012, 04:42 PM
I'd always heard that Blue Bee shrimp were Paracaridina. Has this changed or am I just confused?

pejerrey
10-28-2012, 08:35 PM
You know, we often refer people to other sites for params. Maybe we should just do our own huge chart/photos for shrimp params here at TPT? The most comprehensive ever?

Alright! Good one!

We can try and add *suggested* parameters at the side of the names.

But this is kind of a debatable topic.

TDS, PH, GH, KH.

Let's leave other parameters as obvious. Example: Some people believe that no3 should be zero and some keep them in 45ppm.... So, let's not start a debate.

* there is many exceptions.

ThatGuyWithTheFish
10-28-2012, 08:39 PM
TDS really means nothing, IMO. You can EI dose and get TDS into 400-500. I guess if it matters at all, it would be for water changes and tap water.

Rainer
10-28-2012, 08:48 PM
Don't forget the various Babaulti and Fan shrimp species.

Or the debated "Dark Green" species.

AVN
10-28-2012, 09:18 PM
Are you doing this as part of MABJ's collab. project?

pejerrey
10-28-2012, 11:55 PM
TDS really means nothing, IMO. You can EI dose and get TDS into 400-500. I guess if it matters at all, it would be for water changes and tap water.

See?

Let's keep it in ID.

pejerrey
10-28-2012, 11:55 PM
Don't forget the various Babaulti and Fan shrimp species.

Or the debated "Dark Green" species.

C'mon! You add them! Lol! :)

Rainer
10-29-2012, 12:01 AM
Me? You guys are the pros. I'm lucky just to know they exist.

:)

pejerrey
10-29-2012, 12:01 AM
Are you doing this as part of MABJ's collab. project?

No, it came up because I was trying to help some Chilean friends at acuaristas.cl have better knowledge about this hobby. They were using "cherry" for all neos and calling them neocardinia japonica also.... Lol! :)

I'm sure that book/website/magazine will have something like this. I will be happy if this thread is somewhat helpful to that project. :D

AVN
10-29-2012, 12:38 AM
Then may I ask for your permission to use the information in this thread after you've finished compiling it? :)

pejerrey
10-29-2012, 02:36 AM
Then may I ask for your permission to use the information in this thread after you've finished compiling it? :)

Sure! Ask Speedie about his pics tho.

AVN
10-29-2012, 03:17 AM
We already got Speedie's cooperation!

sonicpath
10-29-2012, 03:40 AM
where is the Caridina cf. babaulti var green ?

pejerrey
10-29-2012, 03:47 AM
where is the Caridina cf. babaulti var green ?

I don't know! Why don't you copy the original post and paste it with that shrimp species? :)

james1542
10-29-2012, 03:52 AM
+1 to Caridinia baubaulti green, blue, zebra, black

Green neo ? if it is real

Regular tiger shrimp
Super tiger shrimp
Aura blue (C. serrata?)

Cardinal shrimps? -caridina dennerli
Ghost shrimp
caridina multidentata Amano shrimp
Caridinia ropinqua brown and orange
Caridinia fernando
Caridinia gracilirostris pinnnochio shrimp

pejerrey
10-29-2012, 05:55 AM
ok,

i added some images.

Please feel free to help out!




- but don't take it personal if I dont post the pic in the first post, please! :D

AVN
10-29-2012, 08:25 AM
Your text is way too big, change the size the next time you edit it.

Also this PDF might have a more detailed list on Genus and common names. (Find scientific species somewhere else)

ShrimpBreedingChart (http://www.planetinverts.com/ShrimpBreedingChart.pdf)

pejerrey
10-29-2012, 02:00 PM
Your text is way too big, change the size the next time you edit it.

Also this PDF might have a more detailed list on Genus and common names. (Find scientific species somewhere else)

ShrimpBreedingChart (http://www.planetinverts.com/ShrimpBreedingChart.pdf)

Alright, I'll do.
I did that last night, I was tired.

chibikaie
10-29-2012, 02:47 PM
Oh my gosh, THANK YOU for arranging them in a way that makes SENSE! It always drove me up and wall and across the ceiling how so many sites would mention the scientific names as an afterthought.

pejerrey
10-29-2012, 03:34 PM
You're welcome. It needed to happen one day, right?
:)

james1542
10-29-2012, 05:27 PM
I'm going to start creating new lines of cherry shrimp just to make your life more difficult pejerry! Lol jk.

Bananariot
10-29-2012, 07:57 PM
I'm pretty sure Black Impact is just a breeder's line of PBL CBS. Now if we're listing that, there's gonna be a long list.
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/showthread.php?t=167212

Also I think Blue Velvets and Blue Rilis are the same shrimp, Maybe you can consider them different grades but all in all they originated from the same red rili shrimp
http://shrimpsider.wordpress.com/category/shrimp/neocaridina-shrimp/blue-velvet-shrimp/

speedie408
10-29-2012, 08:14 PM
I'm pretty sure Black Impact is just a breeder's line of PBL CBS. Now if we're listing that, there's gonna be a long list.
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/showthread.php?t=167212

Also I think Blue Velvets and Blue Rilis are the same shrimp, Maybe you can consider them different grades but all in all they originated from the same red rili shrimp
http://shrimpsider.wordpress.com/category/shrimp/neocaridina-shrimp/blue-velvet-shrimp/

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Carlos is making this list based on "Shrimp species & common names" of all fresh water shrimp. Not weather or not they are the same shrimp or not.

Common names from what I understand are the names that the shrimp are labeled under from the breeders or exporters.

On the matter of Blue Rilis being the same shrimp as Blue Velvets, that's a whole other topic that we can only speculate with no solid evidence. Maybe I'll grab some Blue Rilis just to breed out myself to get some hard evidence after comparing both breeding colonies side by side.

Oh HEY! That's my video used in that link you posted lol.

pejerrey
10-29-2012, 08:22 PM
I'm pretty sure Black Impact is just a breeder's line of PBL CBS. Now if we're listing that, there's gonna be a long list.
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/showthread.php?t=167212

Also I think Blue Velvets and Blue Rilis are the same shrimp, Maybe you can consider them different grades but all in all they originated from the same red rili shrimp
http://shrimpsider.wordpress.com/category/shrimp/neocaridina-shrimp/blue-velvet-shrimp/

Thanks Bananariot, I will go with "black impact PBL" then. No problem with this list been long, that is the idea. Please share precise information and pictures to add to the first post.

As for what is blue velvet or blue rili or red rili, they are all neos at the end coming from the wild ones. I could narrow the list to just neocardinia heteropoda and leave it there too. But that is not the point of the list.
The point is to include all common names under their group and have some pictures to recognize them.;)

If you have blue velvets and you want to call them blue rili or even red rili is up to you, post a good quality picture of your shrimp and I will add it to the first post. :)

No problem! :D

pejerrey
10-29-2012, 08:26 PM
I'm going to start creating new lines of cherry shrimp just to make your life more difficult pejerry! Lol jk.

Go ahead, I want glow in the dark with polka dots neos!
Lol!

pejerrey
10-29-2012, 10:35 PM
Good pictures wanted!! :d

pejerrey
10-30-2012, 08:34 PM
Happy bday to me

Minor Threat
10-30-2012, 09:00 PM
I'm going to have to agree with Bananariot to keep things from getting too complicated. The black impact is just another PBL. This would mean adding other PBL and PRL (Beni's, Crimsons, 35shrimp, Ebi's, etc.) to the list might lead to some confusion.

Also, sulawesis!!! Red lines, yellow cheek, yellow nose, cardinals, etc.

Rainer
10-30-2012, 09:03 PM
And who could forget the Hong Kong Larry shrimp?

Any US source for the Larry yet?

Minor Threat
10-30-2012, 09:09 PM
add Pinto bees and blue jellies! those are some great shrimp.

Note that in Japan royal blues and BTOEs are referred to blue and black diamonds. Add that to the list? Don't know as we don't see a lot of Japanese shrimp here.

speedie408
10-30-2012, 09:36 PM
Happy Birthday Carlos!! Enjoy it my friend!

Bryanmc1988
10-30-2012, 10:31 PM
you should also add details on them like if they breed true or not... and water conditions etc etc... here is a good list you can add to the mix...

shrimpkeeping.com

DoubleT
10-30-2012, 10:52 PM
add Caridina Babaulti to the list. There might be more but I just now of the green and striped varieties.

AVN
10-30-2012, 11:09 PM
Pj, you can use the [ spoiler][/spoiler] tags to hide the pictures underneath the common names to make it compacted and cleaner.

pejerrey
10-31-2012, 01:23 AM
Thanks! I will do the spoiler but in regards to parameters and all of that I will probably skip those things in te mean time until i finish with dwarf shrimp and images (as there is so many opinions about parameters).
Google is your best friend for details about the shrimp.
;)

Please keep reminding me of dwarf shrimp that I may be missing! Oh, and please share pics!

Edit:
Do you guys think I should add "neocardinia heteropoda" or "cardinia cantonesis" , for example, to the pictures themselves?

speedie408
10-31-2012, 04:06 PM
How about the different grades of Taiwan Bee, such as Extreme BKK/Ruby, 1 bar, 2 bar, or I have one that's all red :). Looks just like a bloody mary cherry, but it's a red TB. Not sure what to call that one...

AVN
10-31-2012, 04:33 PM
I'm pretty sure he's just doing shrimp genus and species, along with common names and grades. Not new variants that you haven't bred true yet! ;)

pejerrey
10-31-2012, 05:10 PM
Hey, you guys post pictures!

Even better if the pic has visible name for the shrimp (so i don't have to edit). I'll just place it on the first post within the group it belongs. Even better if the bugs are representative of a stable line instead of hybrids or interesting offsprings, although that could be a whole other group of pictures! :)

Soothing Shrimp
10-31-2012, 05:15 PM
Aren't hulk and green hulk the same?

pejerrey
10-31-2012, 05:22 PM
updated!

I'm just using the name used when the pic was originally posted.

Thanks for helping organizing the list!

AVN
10-31-2012, 05:31 PM
Use spoiler tags already! Your post is way too long and jammed with pictures! D: !

It'd make the first post a lot easier to read, because you know, right now it's a giant mess and takes up 3/4 of the first page.

pejerrey
10-31-2012, 05:43 PM
Use spoiler tags already! Your post is way too long and jammed with pictures! D: !

It'd make the first post a lot easier to read, because you know, right now it's a giant mess and takes up 3/4 of the first page.

that is a lot of work, i need to do it when I come back from vacations. I leave tomorrow morning, just taking 1/2 hr brake now.

AVN
10-31-2012, 05:45 PM
If I could do it for you, I would. I am pretty quick at formatting tags and text.

Have fun on your vacation man! Where are you going?

I'll probably take this info and finish compiling it myself by the time you're back! If nobody minds, I'll repost this in another thread so I can edit in the spoilers and organize the pictures, along with adding any new information and pictures that might come up while you're away.

Then again, might be too much of a hassle. I might just let it pile up and make you do it all later. We'll see.

james1542
10-31-2012, 05:59 PM
Nice work so far! Love the pictures. Maybe a juvy or baby picture if available too?

Barbgirl
10-31-2012, 06:13 PM
List looks great!! Super helpful, thank you for taking your own time to do this!

speedie408
10-31-2012, 06:13 PM
I'm pretty sure he's just doing shrimp genus and species, along with common names and grades. Not new variants that you haven't bred true yet! ;)

Extreme BKK, Extreme Ruby Red, 1 bar/stripe, and 2 bar/stripe BKK/Ruby are all "grades" of Taiwan Bees. They're not new variants and they breed true. :confused1:

Carlos - I'll post pictures for you soon bro.

AVN
10-31-2012, 06:23 PM
Extreme BKK, Extreme Ruby Red, 1 bar/stripe, and 2 bar/stripe BKK/Ruby are all "grades" of Taiwan Bees. They're not new variants and they breed true. :confused1:


My bad, I have no experience or knowledge with that species.

Nice work so far! Love the pictures. Maybe a juvy or baby picture if available too?

Might not be the most efficient use of space, as juvies tend not to show their true colors until adulthood. I find that low grade and high grade shrimp are hard to tell apart as juvies, but the difference is night and day when they get older.

pejerrey
10-31-2012, 06:46 PM
Thanks,
If you don't mind AVN I would like to still have fun with my thread when I'm on vacations. I can do it in my 16hr flight to Chile now that I think about it. I will have plenty of time. You could make an example of what you mean and post it here so if works well then I place in the first post, why don't you try that first instead of starting a separate tread?

However, to be honest, I'm not very convinced of using spoilers yet.

The organized list is in the top and there is gonna be a pile of pictures to browse under that. It works very well with the tapatalk version at least and doesn't bother me in the laptop.

If the first post takes the whole first page is ok with me. It's a list of names with bad arse pics to browse under it.

Nick, please post your pics, thanks bro!
I will add them to the first post.

SpecGrrl
10-31-2012, 07:14 PM
Great list pejerry! Thanks and have a great trip!

ThatGuyWithTheFish
10-31-2012, 07:21 PM
Just missing Golden Bee and Cardinals, as far as I can tell.

pejerrey
10-31-2012, 07:39 PM
Just missing Golden Bee and Cardinals, as far as I can tell.

And ghost shrimp, blue jellies, pintos, etc...
:)

I don't know if I would include bamboo shrimp tho. (ain't dwarf to my taste)

pejerrey
10-31-2012, 08:01 PM
Ok, I tried the spoiler function to hide the pictures and i don't like it sorry.
:(

Lkittredge
10-31-2012, 09:44 PM
First page seems fine to me and very helpful. Thanks for putting this together.

pejerrey
11-01-2012, 03:46 AM
I just found out my dad had a brain stroke on my birth day, last night. :(

He is in a hospital pretty far from where I'm gonna arrive. They're gonna let him out in a few days, so I won't be able to see him right away.

I'm leaving tomorrow morning as planned. I'll be there on Friday.

This kinda suck really bad.

Bananariot
11-01-2012, 05:11 AM
I just found out my dad had a brain stroke on my birth day, last night. :(

He is in a hospital pretty far from where I'm gonna arrive. They're gonna let him out in a few days, so I won't be able to see him right away.

I'm leaving tomorrow morning as planned. I'll be there on Friday.

This kinda suck really bad.

Our prayers are with you. Hope he gets better soon.

AVN
11-01-2012, 05:04 PM
First off, I want to extend my condolences for your father. I hope he makes a quick and full recovery. I want you to look on the bright side, at least you still have him around. I remember when I lost my grandfather to a brain tumor and cardiac arrest, it was a tough patch to get through, but it made me appreciate that I still have time to spend with my father, he on the other hand missed out and now it's too late.

I didn't want to hijack your thread, I was just offering to assist in any way possible because I'm going to be using the information from it. Stay in charge of it, work on it, it's a good resource you've been putting together and I do not want to take anything from you.

My spoiler suggestion was just to keep it all nice and tidy, I don't mind if the first post takes up the entire first page, but I hate it because it lacks clear organization and is just jammed with differently sized photos. It's just personal preference, but to me it was done very unprofessionally.

If I had done this, I would've organized by Genus - Species - Common Name/Grades with a spoiler tag hiding a giant photo right underneath each Common Name/Grade. to me, looking first at the categorization and then having to search below for a picture is inefficient. I want the picture right next to the shrimp so I don't have to look for it twice.

Below is my model, as you can see it has better organization, it saves space, it saves time, and makes it easier to load on phones. I tested the mobile version of this thread, and it stretches my entire screen and makes it really hard to focus on a single image and species without having to jump up and down the page. Spoilers open and close right below the grade, perfect.

I cannot speak for TapaTalk users as I do not use it myself.

Neocardinia Heteropoda:
Red Cherry
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-dW8EyrX_ySA/UI8AJabp0QI/AAAAAAAABrE/jjrPQqpO_Oc/s512/RED%2520CHERRY.jpg
Sakura Red
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-t2Pd60jOtss/UJGLYMdfj5I/AAAAAAAAByo/2SjhWzljMnI/s500/SAKURA.jpg
Fire Red
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ChUMXvUEiyg/UI8AIeJywcI/AAAAAAAABrM/9HXvED55EDo/s512/FIRE%2520RED.jpg
Painted Fire Red
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-gD3C_vCExa8/UJGNJzyxdfI/AAAAAAAABzA/8w_djE0vMLU/s800/PFR.jpg
Supreme Red
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3I6jsoUdvag/UI4QHHxFV-I/AAAAAAAABpU/jGdjA7p08qI/s800/SUP%2520RED.jpg

Yellow
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ZFgYiXfJsJM/UHznCBNMmMI/AAAAAAAAByM/9FQMqOl1nDc/s584/yellow%2520eggs.jpg
Fire Yellow
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-I-6ibN0p3hU/UI8AJ5vPD5I/AAAAAAAABrQ/vE03bqaHn3o/s512/Yellow%2520Fire.jpg
Golden
Picture here
Neon Yellow
Picture here
Neon fire yellow
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-IJuDfsn59uo/UI8vscnNJQI/AAAAAAAABtU/glIdsiObMeA/s800/neon%2520fire%2520yellow.jpg


Again, just my opinion. Don't listen to me if you want, sometimes I'm a dick. But I feel my format would do nothing but improve the accessibility and aesthetic quality of your resource, if I did not strongly believe this, I would not have wrote a block of text, continuously pestered you to use spoilers, and made a model for you to compare.

Thanks for reading all this crap. :0

pejerrey
11-06-2012, 02:36 AM
Thanks for editing and changing the word "stupid" for "unprofessional".
This is a hobby bro, I have a real job.

pejerrey
11-06-2012, 03:02 AM
Well, "best" is sometimes a relative concept. In this case just your preference.

*One big thing I've learned from this hobby is to not get obsessed to control everything. Then it becomes a pita... Although, as it is about control for the most part, there is what we call "healthy neglect".

Is like asking people:
when are your hands clean enough?

You will be surprised by how many people will consider each other gross or germofobic at every point of their spectrum.

pejerrey
11-06-2012, 03:07 AM
Oh, and by the way. By using the word "retarded" to mean stupid or inmature or foolish, you may be offending somebody that is not stupid but has a condition they can't improve. Or somebody's relative.

(I learned the hard way, that is why I don't use that word anymore)

Zenzu
11-06-2012, 03:30 AM
Can K14's really be considered PRL when they were crossed with Snow whites? Just because they breed true doesn't mean the line is pure.

pejerrey
12-18-2012, 07:35 PM
oh! i forgot I did this!! lol! 'Bump I guess! :D

fplata
12-19-2012, 02:22 AM
oh! i forgot I did this!! lol! 'Bump I guess! :D

Pejerrey - I enjoyed it a whole bunch.

Avn with al due respect you come across very condescending. Some times it's best just to let things be and take the high road.


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Green_Flash
12-19-2012, 03:20 AM
anyone ever heard of a red bolt?

Bananariot
12-19-2012, 03:31 AM
anyone ever heard of a red bolt?

Another one of those TB's. A blue bolt that's red.

Dayumdanny
12-19-2012, 04:14 AM
Don't forget to add princess bee's and super princess bees from Vietnam

infamouz23
12-19-2012, 04:27 AM
Pejerry, thank you for taking the time out of your day to put this together. Much appreciated. :thumbup:

Soothing Shrimp
12-19-2012, 02:12 PM
anyone ever heard of a red bolt?

Heck yeah. One of my favorites. But yet another $$$ in price. :)

pejerrey
12-19-2012, 05:28 PM
Hey guys! My pleasure, it was fun. I still have to add a couple more of course, keep reminding me of the ones missing and please share pics.

pejerrey
02-04-2013, 03:38 AM
Don't forget to add princess bee's and super princess bees from Vietnam

Do you have any pics?

Merth
02-04-2013, 05:55 AM
Didn't see Snow White or is it the same as crystal white?

azjenny
02-04-2013, 01:15 PM
I think we need Aura Blues which (I believe) go with TTs under Caridina Serrata.

This is a cool list!

Soothing Shrimp
02-04-2013, 02:49 PM
Seems those Aura Blues have stopped being imported, because of teh high death rate and the blue velvets took over. (?) Still, should be added to the list.

Soothing Shrimp
02-04-2013, 02:50 PM
Another suggestion is Caridina Sulawesi. No common name yet.

Gamezawy
02-05-2013, 10:24 AM
really thank you for all your efforts

Bazz
03-17-2013, 07:24 PM
Great post, was sent this link from a friend on my Facebook group, could the author pm me thanks :)

pejerrey
03-19-2013, 01:59 AM
Or you can pm the author! ;)

pejerrey
04-05-2013, 07:31 PM
So, I'm missing:

Blue diamond?
sulawesi
Aura blue
Super Princess bee

right? any Pics?

Thanks for helping me keep it real.

aznrice247
06-14-2013, 05:39 AM
I'll bump this....

I was actually trying to look for this thread and it does need to be updated now that we have some new editions.