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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 04-03-2014, 11:28 PM Thread Starter
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Did I buy a peice of Junk? Pls help a newbe...

C02 Tank Date: 02-A-05

Regulator: Victor SR5B Date KR

Solenoid: Burkert A 5/64 FKM BA
NPT1/8 Pmax 115psi
120V 60hz 4w
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Caint find any markings on the metering valve?

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Sandpaper to clean the tank, ketchup to clean the regulator.
The reg looks like a victor sr miniature single stage that for welding
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Sandpaper to clean the tank, ketchup to clean the regulator.
The reg looks like a victor sr miniature single stage that for welding

ketchup, for real? Should I just buy new tank stem and regulator?

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Umm! I guess you know this is not a quickie??
The date on the tank might be a question before doing too much. Good hydro test date? Any firm knowledge of whether it is a working reg,etc?
I would start with the tank. Remove the reg and lay the tank down in a pan if you can to soak. It will take some time. Soaking first will make any deposits easier to remove when you get to that stage. Enough water to cover and then lots of vinegar might be a place to start. While soaking overnight or so, use an old brush to swap the exterior of the reg with vinegar. Don't fllod the solenoid electrical parts. Some soaking and some scrubbing will get the brass parts looking much better.
But it may also be true that neither will ever be really pretty again. If there are serious pits in the tank metal, they may not agree to a hydro test.
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Why don't you take tank to airgas to exchange for a cleaner tank?

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Umm! I guess you know this is not a quickie??
The date on the tank might be a question before doing too much. Good hydro test date? Any firm knowledge of whether it is a working reg,etc?
I would start with the tank. Remove the reg and lay the tank down in a pan if you can to soak. It will take some time. Soaking first will make any deposits easier to remove when you get to that stage. Enough water to cover and then lots of vinegar might be a place to start. While soaking overnight or so, use an old brush to swap the exterior of the reg with vinegar. Don't fllod the solenoid electrical parts. Some soaking and some scrubbing will get the brass parts looking much better.
But it may also be true that neither will ever be really pretty again. If there are serious pits in the tank metal, they may not agree to a hydro test.
This tank is still 5/8th full of co2. Yup I agree, not an easy job.
No odea about the hydro date, where on the tank would I find the date?
Can I count soaking the tank in the bathtub with vinger+ soapy water as a bottle only leak test, Can I use warm water or cold only since the gas will expaned with heat...

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I can swap out this tank for a newer one Im sure, but then I dont really own the tank, its more of a rental yes? The seller only wants $50.00 for what you see in the photo.

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I can swap out this tank for a newer one Im sure, but then I dont really own the tank, its more of a rental yes? The seller only wants $50.00 for what you see in the photo.
No u own it, u just swap tanks. U see, u buy a tank and then pay a fill charge but instead of filling it they swap ur empty for a full tank

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This tank is still 5/8th full of co2. Yup I agree, not an easy job.
No odea about the hydro date, where on the tank would I find the date?
The hydro test date should be stamped somewhere on the side of the cylinder.

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Ketchup, for real.
That is how you clean brass in this condition, cover the reg with ketchup for 15 minutes, then clean it with dish scrab, make sure don't get any ketchup or water into the reg.
Same procedure if not clean the first time.
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I would just worry about the regulator. Switched for a filled one at airgas. All of them switch outs. I wouldn't bother cleaning it.

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No odea about the hydro date, where on the tank would I find the date?
Here's an example of the hydro test date, it's usually day/month/year, and it's good for five years.

Here in Canada tank swapping is a less popular practice....


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Here's an example of the hydro test date, it's usually day/month/year, and it's good for five years.

Here in Canada tank swapping is a less popular practice....

Thanks. That helps alot. Where in Ontario are you?

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Ketchup, for real.
That is how you clean brass in this condition, cover the reg with ketchup for 15 minutes, then clean it with dish scrab, make sure don't get any ketchup or water into the reg.
Same procedure if not clean the first time.
Ketchup it is... Thanks. I also did read your 3 articals about co2, Im a little worried about leaks now since my liveing room is only 10'x20' with one window. if it leaked badly I may come home to everyone in need of a hostipal trip or worse... Im assuming this is if the whole 5# tank was emptyed into the room yes?

Honestly I will likely take the reg apart and clean each peice. then replace some parts if needed and and put it back together ...

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Ketchup it is... Thanks. I also did read your 3 articals about co2, Im a little worried about leaks now since my liveing room is only 10'x20' with one window. if it leaked badly I may come home to everyone in need of a hostipal trip or worse... Im assuming this is if the whole 5# tank was emptyed into the room yes?
Unless your living room is VERY well sealed, I wouldn't worry about a leak. If the tank suddenly released its entire contents (as in the tank stem blew off), you would have many other things to worry about. CO2 poisoning is the least of the worries.

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Now that there are new photos. Can someone let me know if they can see if this tank is still inside the hydro date??? Thanks

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Unless your living room is VERY well sealed, I wouldn't worry about a leak. If the tank suddenly released its entire contents (as in the tank stem blew off), you would have many other things to worry about. CO2 poisoning is the least of the worries.
Thanks Makes me feel better...

Exv152: A local shop said they will swap tanks for me if its still in date.

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That might be a good deal because yours is old, but if it were new I'm not sure I would do it. Usually there's an annual fee and a refill fee. How much are they charging?

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