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200w hydor heater okay for 45-f?

200w hydor heater okay for 45-f?

I want something external so its not in the tank. Is 200w going to fry the 4.5g tank? thats the smallest heater they make.

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This may require a DIY approach. Search for DIY inline heater on the forum and use a 25 watt unit.


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It will be fine. Why would it fry it? It only runs when it needs to. I ran one on my mini m.

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It will be fine. Why would it fry it? It only runs when it needs to. I ran one on my mini m.
thats what I heard... I guess it could fry the tank if it stuck so if I put a controller on it I should be okay right?
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I had the same concerns on a 30c with a 200w Hydor inline. It was probably super overkill, but I ended up ordering a Ranco temperature controller (Model # ETC-111000). It was around 55 bucks, but the reviews (and my experience - about a year so far) say it's absolutely bulletproof. I have it set up so that the Ranco is turning on/off at 76 degrees, and the heater itself is turning off at 78 degrees as a failsafe. Call it paranoia if you want, but I lost an entire tank of fish to a heater malfunction a few years ago. Peace of mind for 55 bucks? Yes please.

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I'm just wondering why other companies haven't made their own version.. Is it still patented so other companies can't copy?
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Didn't stop Aquatic Magic, NAG Aqua, or other companies from copying ADA.

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It's definitely overkill and you shouldn't use it unless you're using a temperature controller.

Even a momentary failure could cook anything in 3-4 gallons of water.

And when you buy a controller - test it out before setting your tank and forgetting it. I had issues with two Hydor in-lines - using controllers - that ended up cooking tanks much larger than the 45-F.
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I've used one without a controller for years. I've had zero issues. This is on a Mini M, 5.5 gallons.

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Fire up your googler. Tons of people with problems using these heaters.

I continue to use them and won't do so without a temperature controller (as cheap as $20). It's common sense insurance.

Failures aside, still a great heater.
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Fire up your googler. Tons of people with problems using these heaters.

I continue to use them and won't do so without a temperature controller (as cheap as $20). It's common sense insurance.

Failures aside, still a great heater.
hey shocked which controller do you use? I have a few finnex controllers, not sure if there are better ones out there
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I use Apex controllers but do have several cheap Finnex knock-offs that work pretty well.
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Apex are pricey i thought. I use apex for my sw tanks, never thought anout using them for planted.

Do u hook up multiple heaters to the controller?
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A controller is insanely cheap insurance when you consider the cost of fish, shrimp, and plants. Not to mention the time involved in setting up your tank.
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A controller is insanely cheap insurance when you consider the cost of fish, shrimp, and plants. Not to mention the time involved in setting up your tank.
Yeh finnex are cheap, apex controllers can cost over $300
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