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post #46 of 66 (permalink) Old 04-29-2013, 11:41 AM Thread Starter
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Yeppers....that's the process I went through.

Best I can tell at this point is there is no gas leak. I do have one of the bubble counters leaking though. Can't seem to tighten it to stop it. All else seems good to go. The needle valves on the manifold work great and adjusted well.

Today I'll get some more tubbing and start connecting diffusers.
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post #47 of 66 (permalink) Old 05-01-2013, 02:09 AM Thread Starter
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ok...test number one conducted today.

I only hooked up one diffuser just to test things out. Seemed pretty much ok with an exception.....

I heard a noise coming from the pressure relief valve. It appears that it is engaged or what ever you call it. The CO2 was coming out from the diffuser at a nice mist. I'm uploading a video to show things running.

Do I need to adjust something here due to the pressure relief valve off gassing?
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Gas coming out of the relief valve could mean a couple of things. Most likely the valve is bad or the diaphragm for the first stage is bad and is letting full tank pressure into the area between the 1st and second stage. Did you fallow betta's leak test guide?

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Not finding any leaks.

Here's a link to the video I shot.

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I checked this morning and both guages are reading the same as in the video I posted yesterday. The solenoid is off and the tank valve is closed.

I'm still researching and reading a lot on the regulators and such.

I did also want to mention that when I first turned things on without the diffuser set up, there was no gas coming from the PRV. It was only when the diffuser was connected did it occur.

I'll drain the one line today and reset everything and see how that goes.

Another thing I want to confirm is my operating pressure. That should be set to around 15psi correct?

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Turned everything and lowered set point to 10 psi. Still getting some blow out from the relief valve.

Bubble counters start and then slow down. I adjust them and they slow again. This is getting very aggravating I must say
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Get a 1/4 plug and replace the relief valve with it. Turn your working pressure up to 20 or so to get you're needle valves more consistent. Maybe higher. The most aquariums you are feeding gas to, the more pressure will have to increase.

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So do I need to increase the pressure then? Sry as I'm confused since the relief valve is gassing off. Thought that was a sign of too much pressure
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The relief valve leaking is a sign of too much interstage pressure (meaning the first stage is blown) or a bad relief valve.

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So I guess this reg is actually no good then eh??



So not happy right now
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So I guess this reg is actually no good then eh??



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Not necessarily. Worst case, your 2-stage reg is running like a single stage. Best case, you just need a new relief valve or just a plug. If you fallowed Bettatail's leak check guide to a "T" and didn't find any problems, you just have a faulty relief valve which is replaceable.

This is just another one of those reasons I don't buy regs that look very used anymore. I mainly just look for ones that are new or almost new. I was throwing out 1/3 of the ones I was picking up cheap that had blown diaphragms or other issues.

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Well...my frustrations got the better of me and broke the system down.

Do you think it would be worth taking it to AirGas to look at? Not sure if they can test them there or not.

I don't want to keep buying pieces and parts.
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Well...my frustrations got the better of me and broke the system down.

Do you think it would be worth taking it to AirGas to look at? Not sure if they can test them there or not.

I don't want to keep buying pieces and parts.
You could take it to your local welding store to see if they can take a look (some might do an initial look for free).

The repair costs might be high though (i.e. more than the cost of buying another used regulator).

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I brought the reg into work and had our welder look at it. He replaced the PRV and got the same results. Said it needs to be rebuilt. Dang! I'll stop by a shop today and see what it's gonna run.

On a bright note, he did provide me with another Victor reg to use in the mean time. Sooooo kewl. Now I get to go through all the frustrations of hooking this up again.
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Got the temp tank hooked up and set the pressure. Everything tested fine...or so I thought.

Set the operating pressure and counted bubbles. One bubble counter still not wanting to cooperate. So I changed it out.

It looked ok so I went to the gym. Came back and no bubbles and the LP was 0. Drat...there's obviously a leak somewhere.

I'll break it down again and retape everything.
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